Collin Murray-Boyles Thread

[ATLTimekeeper]

That ticky tack 4th foul changed the game, because it forced Scottie back in when he was exhausted and compromised our defense. When CMB was on the floor the Pacers were cooked last night.

[Duffman100]

That ticky tack 4th foul changed the game, because it forced Scottie back in when he was exhausted and compromised our defense. When CMB was on the floor the Pacers were cooked last night.

He completely took Nembhard out of the game. That was nuts.

[OakleyDokely]

CMBs rookie defense blows away what OG did and OG was great for a rookie.

[LordByronScott]

His perimeter defense on Nembhard is probably a top 3 highlight for me of CMB's season so far. I can't remember if prime Draymond had that level of point-of-attack defense on a really good point guard.

[HumbleRen]

His perimeter defense on Nembhard is probably a top 3 highlight for me of CMB's season so far. I can't remember if prime Draymond had that level of point-of-attack defense on a really good point guard.

Nembhard isn’t a great offensive player, what CMB did was extremely impressive but prime Draymond was going to war against Dame, Westbrooks and Kyrie of the worlds with his POA defence when he switched on to them.

CMB might be able to do that but he’s not there yet lol.

[ATLTimekeeper]

When Draymond was finally getting minutes the Warriors were a favoured team by the refs and he could get away with murder. CMB is getting ticky tack fouls guarding Quenton Jackson on a last place team. What he's accomplishing without a reputation is really impressive. Draymond wasn't even on the floor until he was 23.

[PushDaRock]

107.2 DRTG on the season, best of all the regular rotation guys. How wild is that seeing a rookie do that on a HCA team so far?

[HumbleRen]

When Draymond was finally getting minutes the Warriors were a favoured team by the refs and he could get away with murder. CMB is getting ticky tack fouls guarding Quenton Jackson on a last place team. What he's accomplishing without a reputation is really impressive. Draymond wasn't even on the floor until he was 23.

Mark Jackson didn’t believe in him is the main reason for that. David Lee was soaking up the minutes.

The minute Kerr got hired and revamped the offence, Draymond immediately became a top 3 defender in the league in his first year as a starter.

[Yallbecrazy]

That amazing reddit post that I posted in here in the offseason and encouraged everyone to read and convinced a lot of people that CMB was legit, turned out to be legit.

I wrote that. So far his defense has been better than expected, his rebounding slightly better than expected, his playmaking about as expected, and his offense/self creation worse than expected.

[PushDaRock]

His perimeter defense on Nembhard is probably a top 3 highlight for me of CMB's season so far. I can't remember if prime Draymond had that level of point-of-attack defense on a really good point guard.

Nembhard isn’t a great offensive player, what CMB did was extremely impressive but prime Draymond was going to war against Dame, Westbrooks and Kyrie of the worlds with his POA defence when he switched on to them.

CMB might be able to do that but he’s not there yet lol.

lol you mean mostly fouling those guys without getting called.

Draymond isn't playing D without being handsy, that CMB defensive rep on Nembhard, he didn't even use an arm bar (which is legal) and still locked him down which is incredibly difficult to do.

[PushDaRock]

That amazing reddit post that I posted in here in the offseason and encouraged everyone to read and convinced a lot of people that CMB was legit, turned out to be legit.

I wrote that. So far his defense has been better than expected, his rebounding slightly better than expected, his playmaking about as expected, and his offense/self creation worse than expected.

You still see some flashes of some creative finishing mixed in with still getting adjusted to NBA length and athleticism. I'm not too concerned, I think it will come.

[HumbleRen]

His perimeter defense on Nembhard is probably a top 3 highlight for me of CMB's season so far. I can't remember if prime Draymond had that level of point-of-attack defense on a really good point guard.

Nembhard isn’t a great offensive player, what CMB did was extremely impressive but prime Draymond was going to war against Dame, Westbrooks and Kyrie of the worlds with his POA defence when he switched on to them.

CMB might be able to do that but he’s not there yet lol.

lol you mean mostly fouling those guys without getting called.

Draymond isn't playing D without being handsy, that CMB defensive rep on Nembhard, he didn't even use an arm bar (which is legal) and still locked him down which is incredibly difficult to do.

Every great defender is handsy. I don't care about that lol.

I'm just saying Draymond has absolutely had that level of POA defence.

[ATLTimekeeper]

When Draymond was finally getting minutes the Warriors were a favoured team by the refs and he could get away with murder. CMB is getting ticky tack fouls guarding Quenton Jackson on a last place team. What he's accomplishing without a reputation is really impressive. Draymond wasn't even on the floor until he was 23.

Mark Jackson didn’t believe in him is the main reason for that. David Lee was soaking up the minutes.

The minute Kerr got hired and revamped the offence, Draymond immediately became a top 3 defender in the league in his first year as a starter.

The team was also way better with David Lee on the court than with Draymond those first few years. Even if Jackson was missing the big picture, we're still talking about a 23 year old rookie v a 21 year old. Draymond's PFs dropped dramatically when he became a starter from his rookie season. CMB's will as well by his 3rd year.

[HumbleRen]

When Draymond was finally getting minutes the Warriors were a favoured team by the refs and he could get away with murder. CMB is getting ticky tack fouls guarding Quenton Jackson on a last place team. What he's accomplishing without a reputation is really impressive. Draymond wasn't even on the floor until he was 23.

Mark Jackson didn’t believe in him is the main reason for that. David Lee was soaking up the minutes.

The minute Kerr got hired and revamped the offence, Draymond immediately became a top 3 defender in the league in his first year as a starter.

The team was also way better with David Lee on the court than with Draymond those first few years. Even if Jackson was missing the big picture, we're still talking about a 23 year old rookie v a 21 year old. Draymond's PFs dropped dramatically when he became a starter from his rookie season. CMB's will as well by his 3rd year.

Oh for sure but that's to be expected. CMB was infinitely more talented as a prospect.

Draymond was 4 year college player selected in the 2nd round. CMB's touch around the rim as a rookie is already better than prime Draymond.

[PushDaRock]

Nembhard isn’t a great offensive player, what CMB did was extremely impressive but prime Draymond was going to war against Dame, Westbrooks and Kyrie of the worlds with his POA defence when he switched on to them.

CMB might be able to do that but he’s not there yet lol.

lol you mean mostly fouling those guys without getting called.

Draymond isn't playing D without being handsy, that CMB defensive rep on Nembhard, he didn't even use an arm bar (which is legal) and still locked him down which is incredibly difficult to do.

Every great defender is handsy. I don't care about that lol.

I'm just saying Draymond has absolutely had that level of POA defence.

Certainly, you do as much as you can get away with but he is just allowed to get away with more than everyone else.

[HumbleRen]

lol you mean mostly fouling those guys without getting called.

Draymond isn't playing D without being handsy, that CMB defensive rep on Nembhard, he didn't even use an arm bar (which is legal) and still locked him down which is incredibly difficult to do.

Every great defender is handsy. I don't care about that lol.

I'm just saying Draymond has absolutely had that level of POA defence.

Certainly, you do as much as you can get away with but he is just allowed to get away with more than everyone else.

CMB will get there with that leeway, he's just gotta keep being aggressive on defense to establish that baseline with refs.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Mark Jackson didn’t believe in him is the main reason for that. David Lee was soaking up the minutes.

The minute Kerr got hired and revamped the offence, Draymond immediately became a top 3 defender in the league in his first year as a starter.

The team was also way better with David Lee on the court than with Draymond those first few years. Even if Jackson was missing the big picture, we're still talking about a 23 year old rookie v a 21 year old. Draymond's PFs dropped dramatically when he became a starter from his rookie season. CMB's will as well by his 3rd year.

Oh for sure but that's to be expected. CMB was infinitely more talented as a prospect.

Draymond was 4 year college player selected in the 2nd round. CMB's touch around the rim as a rookie is already better than prime Draymond.

I'm just talking defense here. Rookie Draymond averaged 5.4 fouls/36. 3rd year Draymond averaged 3.7/36. I don't think Draymond could have stayed on the floor to start in the NBA, so Mark Jackson was probably correct in his decision.

[HumbleRen]

The team was also way better with David Lee on the court than with Draymond those first few years. Even if Jackson was missing the big picture, we're still talking about a 23 year old rookie v a 21 year old. Draymond's PFs dropped dramatically when he became a starter from his rookie season. CMB's will as well by his 3rd year.

Oh for sure but that's to be expected. CMB was infinitely more talented as a prospect.

Draymond was 4 year college player selected in the 2nd round. CMB's touch around the rim as a rookie is already better than prime Draymond.

I'm just talking defense here. Rookie Draymond averaged 5.4 fouls/36. 3rd year Draymond averaged 3.7/36. I don't think Draymond could have stayed on the floor to start in the NBA, so Mark Jackson was probably correct in his decision.

Maybe but I think Kerr was just a better coach flat out on defence and offence compared to Jackson. Whatever he did, worked.

[shmoosicle]

In 31 minutes a game in January he is averaging 10.4 pts / 8.4 rbs / 3.6 asts / 1.0 blk / 1.7 stl (3.1 pf / 0.7 trnvr) on 57.1% FG and 90% FT. Those are already terrific numbers for a starter, let alone a rookie in his 3rd full month of the season.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Oh for sure but that's to be expected. CMB was infinitely more talented as a prospect.

Draymond was 4 year college player selected in the 2nd round. CMB's touch around the rim as a rookie is already better than prime Draymond.

I'm just talking defense here. Rookie Draymond averaged 5.4 fouls/36. 3rd year Draymond averaged 3.7/36. I don't think Draymond could have stayed on the floor to start in the NBA, so Mark Jackson was probably correct in his decision.

Maybe but I think Kerr was just a better coach flat out on defence and offence compared to Jackson. Whatever he did, worked.

I think people forget that the Warriors were a top 5 defensive team in Jackson's last year. Like, Draymond was 6th in minutes. It's not that Jackson didn't believe in him, but that the team did play better with Lee in those first few seasons.