Tank World Order (6.0)

[KL78192020]

somebody got their feelings hurt, can easily dish it yet can't take it. Report away!!

[KrazyP]

For those fans that will be in tears if the Raps end up in the play-in territory, its instructive to look at the top 8 teams in the NBA this year and review how they got there.

Nets - built through free agency

Bulls - Tanked for several years which created a team a tier below mediocre. They gave up on tanking last year and now are actually good.

Bucks - created championship team with middling "play-in" pick Giannis (2013-#15) and the under the radar trade for Middleton who was picked in the 2nd round

Heat - Core built through free agency (Butler) and "play-in" picks in Bam (2017-#14) and Herro (2019-#13)

Suns - This one is interesting. They did a hard core tank job for 4 years straight which produced ONE player in Ayton (2018-#1) and 3 scrubs Culver (2019-#6) , Jackson (2017-#4), Bender (2016-#4). The rest of their core is built around play-in picks Booker (2015-#13) and Bridges (2018-#10 - acquired by trading lower picks). With all that said, if they didnt trade for Chris Paul who NOBODY wanted at the time (age and giant contract)...this would be a treadmill team.

Warriors - Steph Curry (2009-#7). Tank Nation will take this as a win and ignore the fact (1) this wasnt a blatant tank job as they were actually trying to win with a veteran team of Magette-Harrington/Crawford-Jackson-Ellis but they were riddled with injuries that year and (2) the rest of their core was made through play-in pick Klay THompson (2011-#11) and a 2nd rounder in Draymond Green

Grizzlies - This is the only team in the list that was a blatant tank job. Morant (2019-#2) and Jaren Jackson (2018-#4).

Jazz - Built around middling picks and solid team building. Their core is essentially Gorbert (2nd rounder) + play-in pick Mitchell (2017-#13)

Looking at the above winning teams, (1) there arent many that were created by blatant tanking that some posters advocate for and (2) there are a surprising amount a core pieces picked in play-in territory. Perhaps the success and failure of teams actually has to do with scouting, development, asset management and a little luck rather than tanking for the highest pick possible?

yea cause guys like KD/Kyrie/Butler are clamoring to come here as free agents.

The average perpetual tanking teams end up Team Treadmill/Team Mediocre. I find this very ironic.

I also find it odd the way people read information and completely miss the point.

[DelAbbot]

Did this place just get called a wasteland?? Hahaha.

I’d like to see team mediocre get to 85 pages of comedy.

There is plenty of memes in these TWO threads but there is one



Enjoy the entertainment!

[KrazyP]

For those fans that will be in tears if the Raps end up in the play-in territory, its instructive to look at the top 8 teams in the NBA this year and review how they got there.

Nets - built through free agency

Bulls - Tanked for several years which created a team a tier below mediocre. They gave up on tanking last year and now are actually good.

Bucks - created championship team with middling "play-in" pick Giannis (2013-#15) and the under the radar trade for Middleton who was picked in the 2nd round

Heat - Core built through free agency (Butler) and "play-in" picks in Bam (2017-#14) and Herro (2019-#13)

Suns - This one is interesting. They did a hard core tank job for 4 years straight which produced ONE player in Ayton (2018-#1) and 3 scrubs Culver (2019-#6) , Jackson (2017-#4), Bender (2016-#4). The rest of their core is built around play-in picks Booker (2015-#13) and Bridges (2018-#10 - acquired by trading lower picks). With all that said, if they didnt trade for Chris Paul who NOBODY wanted at the time (age and giant contract)...this would be a treadmill team.

Warriors - Steph Curry (2009-#7). Tank Nation will take this as a win and ignore the fact (1) this wasnt a blatant tank job as they were actually trying to win with a veteran team of Magette-Harrington/Crawford-Jackson-Ellis but they were riddled with injuries that year and (2) the rest of their core was made through play-in pick Klay THompson (2011-#11) and a 2nd rounder in Draymond Green

Grizzlies - This is the only team in the list that was a blatant tank job. Morant (2019-#2) and Jaren Jackson (2018-#4).

Jazz - Built around middling picks and solid team building. Their core is essentially Gorbert (2nd rounder) + play-in pick Mitchell (2017-#13)

Looking at the above winning teams, (1) there arent many that were created by blatant tanking that some posters advocate for and (2) there are a surprising amount a core pieces picked in play-in territory. Perhaps the success and failure of teams actually has to do with scouting, development, asset management and a little luck rather than tanking for the highest pick possible?

I see the point you are attempting to make.

A lot of teams also sign big time free agents. Raps have not been able to do that.

So it comes down to building equity through the draft or signing free agents no one wants

Team mediocre keep acting like we want a Hinkie tank because that's the only way they can deflect from our core point which is...

Lottery picks = higher chance of getting a player with star potential.

(Example from the last few years: Scottie Barnes, Lamelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Trae, Doncic, Morant, etc)

Team Loser keeps acting like losing for lottery balls is the only way to build a team.

[Basketball_Jones]

My body is ready for the playoffs

[will]

I see the point you are attempting to make.

A lot of teams also sign big time free agents. Raps have not been able to do that.

So it comes down to building equity through the draft or signing free agents no one wants

Team mediocre keep acting like we want a Hinkie tank because that's the only way they can deflect from our core point which is...

Lottery picks = higher chance of getting a player with star potential.

(Example from the last few years: Scottie Barnes, Lamelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Trae, Doncic, Morant, etc)

Team Loser keeps acting like losing to guarantee lottery position is the only way to build a team.

Since attracting top tier free agents has been a challenge for the Raps since inception, the other approach would be to get higher lottery positions to increase the likelihood of landing and getting the opportunity to develop high-end talent.

That is all.

[720]

I see the point you are attempting to make.

A lot of teams also sign big time free agents. Raps have not been able to do that.

So it comes down to building equity through the draft or signing free agents no one wants

Team mediocre keep acting like we want a Hinkie tank because that's the only way they can deflect from our core point which is...

Lottery picks = higher chance of getting a player with star potential.

(Example from the last few years: Scottie Barnes, Lamelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Trae, Doncic, Morant, etc)

Team Loser keeps acting like losing to guarantee lottery position is the only way to build a team.

Team Losers are you guys that wanna be the next Indiana pacers or Portland trailblazers of the world.

[Los_29]

For those fans that will be in tears if the Raps end up in the play-in territory, its instructive to look at the top 8 teams in the NBA this year and review how they got there.

Nets - built through free agency

Bulls - Tanked for several years which created a team a tier below mediocre. They gave up on tanking last year and now are actually good.

Bucks - created championship team with middling "play-in" pick Giannis (2013-#15) and the under the radar trade for Middleton who was picked in the 2nd round

Heat - Core built through free agency (Butler) and "play-in" picks in Bam (2017-#14) and Herro (2019-#13)

Suns - This one is interesting. They did a hard core tank job for 4 years straight which produced ONE player in Ayton (2018-#1) and 3 scrubs Culver (2019-#6) , Jackson (2017-#4), Bender (2016-#4). The rest of their core is built around play-in picks Booker (2015-#13) and Bridges (2018-#10 - acquired by trading lower picks). With all that said, if they didnt trade for Chris Paul who NOBODY wanted at the time (age and giant contract)...this would be a treadmill team.

Warriors - Steph Curry (2009-#7). Tank Nation will take this as a win and ignore the fact (1) this wasnt a blatant tank job as they were actually trying to win with a veteran team of Magette-Harrington/Crawford-Jackson-Ellis but they were riddled with injuries that year and (2) the rest of their core was made through play-in pick Klay THompson (2011-#11) and a 2nd rounder in Draymond Green

Grizzlies - This is the only team in the list that was a blatant tank job. Morant (2019-#2) and Jaren Jackson (2018-#4).

Jazz - Built around middling picks and solid team building. Their core is essentially Gorbert (2nd rounder) + play-in pick Mitchell (2017-#13)

Looking at the above winning teams, (1) there arent many that were created by blatant tanking that some posters advocate for and (2) there are a surprising amount a core pieces picked in play-in territory. Perhaps the success and failure of teams actually has to do with scouting, development, asset management and a little luck rather than tanking for the highest pick possible?

yea cause guys like KD/Kyrie/Butler are clamoring to come here as free agents.

The average perpetual tanking teams end up Team Treadmill/Team Mediocre. I find this very ironic.

I also find it odd the way people read information and completely miss the point.

They don't seem to get this. I believe they just choose to ignore this fact.

[TRik]

I see the point you are attempting to make.

A lot of teams also sign big time free agents. Raps have not been able to do that.

So it comes down to building equity through the draft or signing free agents no one wants

Team mediocre keep acting like we want a Hinkie tank because that's the only way they can deflect from our core point which is...

Lottery picks = higher chance of getting a player with star potential.

(Example from the last few years: Scottie Barnes, Lamelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Trae, Doncic, Morant, etc)

Team Loser keeps acting like losing to guarantee lottery position is the only way to build a team.

Team loser is a compliment right?

[will]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

[KrazyP]

Team mediocre keep acting like we want a Hinkie tank because that's the only way they can deflect from our core point which is...

Lottery picks = higher chance of getting a player with star potential.

(Example from the last few years: Scottie Barnes, Lamelo Ball, Anthony Edwards, Cade Cunningham, Trae, Doncic, Morant, etc)

Team Loser keeps acting like losing to guarantee lottery position is the only way to build a team.

Team Losers are you guys that wanna be the next Indiana pacers or Portland trailblazers of the world.

Team Loser are those posters that advocate losing for lottery balls as the only method to build a team.

If you label posters Team Mediocre randomly, I think Team Loser is a nice counter name for TWO.

[KrazyP]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I've been a poster on this board for 20+ years. You have to throw counter arguments around to balance things out or this board becomes a cesspool of poorly thought out trends/opinions.

There were threads started about "VanVleet sucks" and "Siakam has to go"......if posters disagree with those threads, they arent suppose to post there?

[will]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I've been a poster on this board for 20+ years. You have to throw counter arguments around to balance things out or this board becomes a cesspool of poorly thoughtout trends/opinions.

Oh no. Not you. You been around I know.

I was referring to someone else here

[DelAbbot]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

[DelAbbot]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I've been a poster on this board for 20+ years. You have to throw counter arguments around to balance things out or this board becomes a cesspool of poorly thought out trends/opinions.

There were threads started about "VanVleet sucks" and "Siakam has to go"......if posters disagree with those threads, they arent suppose to post there?

I didn't read your post. I joined TWO a few games into Tampa season, and most likely will not be on TWO after 2022 draft. I don't advocate we trade away FVV and OG, but maybe trade PS for an offer we can't refuse and hopefully GTJ for a non-ballhog.

No one in TWO is looking for Sam Hinkie style tank

[720]

Team Loser keeps acting like losing to guarantee lottery position is the only way to build a team.

Team Losers are you guys that wanna be the next Indiana pacers or Portland trailblazers of the world.

Team Loser are those posters that advocate losing for lottery balls as the only method to build a team.

If you label posters Team Mediocre randomly, I think Team Loser is a nice counter name for TWO.

Team Losers are those that advocate for mediocre players and want to be perennial low seeded playoff teams and not true championship contenders.

[KL78192020]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I've been a poster on this board for 20+ years. You have to throw counter arguments around to balance things out or this board becomes a cesspool of poorly thoughtout trends/opinions.

Oh no. Not you. You been around I know.

I was referring to someone else here

and reports people when his feelings are hurt. Yet keeps posting.

[720]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I'm keeping this.

[720]

It is absolutely hilarious how someone who disagrees with tWo keeps posting up in the tWo thread.

I've been a poster on this board for 20+ years. You have to throw counter arguments around to balance things out or this board becomes a cesspool of poorly thought out trends/opinions.

There were threads started about "VanVleet sucks" and "Siakam has to go"......if posters disagree with those threads, they arent suppose to post there?

I didn't read your post. I joined TWO a few games into Tampa season, and most likely will not be on TWO after 2022 draft. I don't advocate we trade away FVV and OG, but maybe trade PS for an offer we can't refuse and hopefully GTJ for a non-ballhog.

No one in TWO is looking for Sam Hinkie style tank

Bro this **** is obvious but these low IQ 'iMaGinE bEiNg a FaN aND RoOtInG fOr LoSsES' types never get it.

[youngRAPZ]

Lol I’m going to show you how dumb this TWO vs Team Compete is. I can create team championship doesn’t mean we gonna win the championship. Therefore someone wanting to be apart of team TWO doesn’t mean the team will tank and someone wanting to be apart of team compete doesn’t mean the team will compete

Why can’t we all just watch the season and cheer on whoever the real decision makers think should be on the team.

I’m not for or against tanking but if 720 and others want to create a thread to discuss top level talent then leave them to it.


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