2023 Draft Prospect discussion

[Psubs]

I really hope we trade for a second lottery pick...

Outside the top 3 (Miller being the 3rd guy) I don't see a lot of separation. But there a lot of quality there.

I'd love to come out of this draft with one of Black or Wallace and then go for a scorer with the second pick.

Second round I want one of Edey or Trayce Jackson Davis. Their advance stats are excellent.

Even without winning the lottery we could do a lot to balance out our roster through this draft... A lead guard who can defend point of attack and doesn't need to be a high volume shooter or have ball in his hand.

An attack the hoop scorer or a lethal 3 point shooter

and another bench big with size or legit shot blocking talent.

Tonight TJD had 20 pts, 18 rebs and 6 assists in a win over another top 25 team. At minimum he's a more athletic Xavier Tillman. As a senior I think he has a high floor but his ceiling is not that high as he doesn't shoot 3's, like maybe like an Antonio Davis. Good Khem Birch replacement.

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[twiggy2]

What is everyone's opinions on the overtime elite players? I hope they succeed.

[Psubs]

What is everyone's opinions on the overtime elite players? I hope they succeed.

I guess it's okay for kids that aren't able to make it academically to college and not good enough to play in the GLeague.

[God Squad]

What is everyone's opinions on the overtime elite players? I hope they succeed.

I think OTE is a waste of time and you're better taking "any" other route IMO. I don't know how to evaluate them or their competition. Workouts are going to be imperative to their draft stock, because they have so many question marks. They also have the widest range so far in the draft.

They can go anywhere from 3-15 or worse.

[Psubs]

What is everyone's opinions on the overtime elite players? I hope they succeed.

I think OTE is a waste of time and you're better taking "any" other route IMO. I don't know how to evaluate them or their competition. Workouts are going to be imperative to their draft stock, because they have so many question marks. They also have the widest range so far in the draft.

They can go anywhere from 3-15 or worse.

Which gets you 2 years of guaranteed money to be set for life. Look at Jaden Hardy drop anyways from a top 3 pre-season prospect to the 2nd round. Looks like he'll be okay though.

Players like Brandon Boston may have been better off playing for OTE to maintain his lottery status. That's an extra $2 million minimum.

I think they should drop because they're already 20 years old, the age of a sophomore and haven't proven themselves above AAU ball.

[God Squad]

What is everyone's opinions on the overtime elite players? I hope they succeed.

I think OTE is a waste of time and you're better taking "any" other route IMO. I don't know how to evaluate them or their competition. Workouts are going to be imperative to their draft stock, because they have so many question marks. They also have the widest range so far in the draft.

They can go anywhere from 3-15 or worse.

Which gets you 2 years of guaranteed money to be set for life. Look at Jaden Hardy drop anyways from a top 3 pre-season prospect to the 2nd round. Looks like he'll be okay though.

Players like Brandon Boston may have been better off playing for OTE to maintain his lottery status. That's an extra $2 million minimum.

I think they should drop because they're already 20 years old, the age of a sophomore and haven't proven themselves above AAU ball.

Play in Europe against men ( & get paid) and not 16-18 year olds. It's honestly pathetic to watch.

[ItsDanger]

TJD is almost 23, a bit undersized. Can run the floor, decent around the rim. At his size, really needs a 10-15 ft shot.

[Thaddy]

It looks like Hendricks plays the forward position but he has the lateral quickness to keep up with perimeter guys. The chances we get a star in the mid lottery is pretty low. A better version of Danny Green would be a great addition to our rotation. If we can develop OG to have a dribble drive game, I'm sure Hendricks could be developed that way too. But having a 6'9 shooter next to Barnes and Siakam would bring a lot of balance for us.

[Rapsfan07]

A lot of this discussion isn't going to matter if we don't start losing some games.

Right now, we are tied with the Lakers and Indiana for the 7th pick. Plus, we are playing San Antonio today.

We really, really need to start moving our vets and commit to the tank or we will be in no man's land.

[Los_29]

A lot of this discussion isn't going to matter if we don't start losing some games.

Right now, we are tied with the Lakers and Indiana for the 7th pick. Plus, we are playing San Antonio today.

We really, really need to start moving our vets and commit to the tank or we will be in no man's land.

Fully committing to the tank for this draft could be disastrous if we don't get Scoot or Wemby. LOL.

[aminiaturebuddha]

Seems like there was a hell of a matchup last night between two guards who will likely be in our range - Cason Wallace and Anthony Black. Unfortunately I didn't seem to get it on anything I have (and was watching the Lebron chase) so I'll have to try to dig it up on the internet today somewhere.

Wallace looks to have had the better individual game (24-3-5 on 10-17 shooting, with 3 stls and 2 blks), but Anthony's Arkansas got the victory over Kentucky, and his boxscore is pretty good as well (19-4-5 on 8-15 shooting, with 5 stls and 1 blk).


Edit: Found a replay of the game online. I really like both guys, and the more I watch them, the more difficult it actually is for me to choose between them. It really depends on what a team is looking for. Wallace is the better shooter and defender (although Black is no slouch at that end either). Black is the better playmaker, ballhandler (Wallace can get too sloppy at times) and gets to the line more.

I'd be happy with either on the Raptors. They're not franchise changers, but I don't actually think anyone is, outside of the top two guys in this draft.

[Rapsfan07]

A lot of this discussion isn't going to matter if we don't start losing some games.

Right now, we are tied with the Lakers and Indiana for the 7th pick. Plus, we are playing San Antonio today.

We really, really need to start moving our vets and commit to the tank or we will be in no man's land.

Fully committing to the tank for this draft could be disastrous if we don't get Scoot or Wemby. LOL.

Not necessarily. Picks can be traded for younger assets, you can move down in the draft if you don't like who's there.

Either way, that is a whole lot better than FVV @ $130M/4yrs or having to deal OG and Siakam as expiring contracts.

[dozo]

It looks like Hendricks plays the forward position but he has the lateral quickness to keep up with perimeter guys. The chances we get a star in the mid lottery is pretty low. A better version of Danny Green would be a great addition to our rotation. If we can develop OG to have a dribble drive game, I'm sure Hendricks could be developed that way too. But having a 6'9 shooter next to Barnes and Siakam would bring a lot of balance for us.

From Utube vids i watched, Rashard Lewis is a fair comparison.

No ceiling mentions him in their latest blog post.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/time-to-float

Taylor Hendricks | Forward | UCF Knights

Coming into the 2023 NBA Draft cycle, not many were expecting UCF freshman forward Taylor Hendricks to become a potential “one-and-done” prospect. That’s just what he’s going to be.

Hendricks has become one of the top players that can make some serious momentum up draft boards. Let’s put it into perspective. We have a 6’9” forward with good athleticism who can stretch the floor from deep. That’s checking a lot of boxes in a hurry, especially when it comes to intriguing NBA front offices.

While Hendricks might not be a prospect that many see as a potential Top 10 selection right now, his ability is going to be something that will have NBA teams extremely intrigued. There’s always an idea of adding a specific skill set to a roster that will have NBA teams foaming at the mouth. Hendricks is averaging 14.3 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 1.8 blocks per game. Those are very exciting numbers. He’s also flirting with shooting splits of 40/40/80. If he could stay in that area while also showcasing some two-way upside, he’s going to be a popular name in NBA circles.

[NotMyKawhi]

Seems like there was a hell of a matchup last night between two guards who will likely be in our range - Cason Wallace and Anthony Black. Unfortunately I didn't seem to get it on anything I have (and was watching the Lebron chase) so I'll have to try to dig it up on the internet today somewhere.

Wallace looks to have had the better individual game (24-3-5 on 10-17 shooting, with 3 stls and 2 blks), but Anthony's Arkansas got the victory over Kentucky, and his boxscore is pretty good as well (19-4-5 on 8-15 shooting, with 5 stls and 1 blk).


Edit: Found a replay of the game online. I really like both guys, and the more I watch them, the more difficult it actually is for me to choose between them. It really depends on what a team is looking for. Wallace is the better shooter and defender (although Black is no slouch at that end either). Black is the better playmaker, ballhandler (Wallace can get too sloppy at times) and gets to the line more.

I'd be happy with either on the Raptors. They're not franchise changers, but I don't actually think anyone is, outside of the top two guys in this draft.

neither can score but I'd take Black for sure. Feel he'll be an all-d kinda player in the NBA

[ItsDanger]

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[dozo]

A good read comparing scoot to Drose.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/the-prospect-overview-is-scoot-henderson

They also updated their big board.

The Expanding Big Board

Welcome to The Expanding Big Board! Every week, a new player is added to the board. Once a player is added, they cannot be removed. The current ranking is listed first, with last week’s ranking in parenthesis.

1. Victor Wembanyama (1)

2. Scoot Henderson (2)

3. Ausar Thompson (3)

4. Brandon Miller (4)

5. Jarace Walker (10)

[Psubs]

It looks like Hendricks plays the forward position but he has the lateral quickness to keep up with perimeter guys. The chances we get a star in the mid lottery is pretty low. A better version of Danny Green would be a great addition to our rotation. If we can develop OG to have a dribble drive game, I'm sure Hendricks could be developed that way too. But having a 6'9 shooter next to Barnes and Siakam would bring a lot of balance for us.

From Utube vids i watched, Rashard Lewis is a fair comparison.

No ceiling mentions him in their latest blog post.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/time-to-float

Taylor Hendricks | Forward | UCF Knights

Coming into the 2023 NBA Draft cycle, not many were expecting UCF freshman forward Taylor Hendricks to become a potential “one-and-done” prospect. That’s just what he’s going to be.

Hendricks has become one of the top players that can make some serious momentum up draft boards. Let’s put it into perspective. We have a 6’9” forward with good athleticism who can stretch the floor from deep. That’s checking a lot of boxes in a hurry, especially when it comes to intriguing NBA front offices.

While Hendricks might not be a prospect that many see as a potential Top 10 selection right now, his ability is going to be something that will have NBA teams extremely intrigued. There’s always an idea of adding a specific skill set to a roster that will have NBA teams foaming at the mouth. Hendricks is averaging 14.3 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 1.8 blocks per game. Those are very exciting numbers. He’s also flirting with shooting splits of 40/40/80. If he could stay in that area while also showcasing some two-way upside, he’s going to be a popular name in NBA circles.

47/38/79 gotta specify 47 as that's really much difference than a chucker that can't finish at the rim. I guess he's more flirting with 50/40/80. He looks like Precious Achiuwa that can shoot FT's and 3's. I'd put him in the lottery and draft him ahead of Sensabaugh (beefy Aaron Nesmith).

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[Thaddy]

It looks like Hendricks plays the forward position but he has the lateral quickness to keep up with perimeter guys. The chances we get a star in the mid lottery is pretty low. A better version of Danny Green would be a great addition to our rotation. If we can develop OG to have a dribble drive game, I'm sure Hendricks could be developed that way too. But having a 6'9 shooter next to Barnes and Siakam would bring a lot of balance for us.

From Utube vids i watched, Rashard Lewis is a fair comparison.

No ceiling mentions him in their latest blog post.

https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/time-to-float

Taylor Hendricks | Forward | UCF Knights

Coming into the 2023 NBA Draft cycle, not many were expecting UCF freshman forward Taylor Hendricks to become a potential “one-and-done” prospect. That’s just what he’s going to be.

Hendricks has become one of the top players that can make some serious momentum up draft boards. Let’s put it into perspective. We have a 6’9” forward with good athleticism who can stretch the floor from deep. That’s checking a lot of boxes in a hurry, especially when it comes to intriguing NBA front offices.

While Hendricks might not be a prospect that many see as a potential Top 10 selection right now, his ability is going to be something that will have NBA teams extremely intrigued. There’s always an idea of adding a specific skill set to a roster that will have NBA teams foaming at the mouth. Hendricks is averaging 14.3 points, 7.2 rebounds, and 1.8 blocks per game. Those are very exciting numbers. He’s also flirting with shooting splits of 40/40/80. If he could stay in that area while also showcasing some two-way upside, he’s going to be a popular name in NBA circles.

47/38/79 gotta specify 47 as that's really much difference than a chucker that can't finish at the rim. I guess he's more flirting with 50/40/80. He looks like Precious Achiuwa that can shoot FT's and 3's. I'd put him in the lottery and draft him ahead of Sensabaugh (beefy Aaron Nesmith).

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He's a better passer than Achiuwa, the only doubt I have is whether he can keep NBA level guards in front of him. I guess that will be tested during the combine when they measure his lane agility and lateral quickness. The wingspan, rim protection, and ability to read defensive plays is there though. That along with his shooting ability makes him an instant rotation player for us, if he can't play the 2 he would still be able to replace Boucher and he can fit with our current core.

[Mark_83]

Cason Wallace is such a beast! High floor, and underrated upside imo. You need a PG like him next to a non-shooting playmaker like Scottie. Plus, with a elite guard defender, Scottie can stick to guarding front court players.

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He's a better passer than Achiuwa, the only doubt I have is whether he can keep NBA level guards in front of him. I guess that will be tested during the combine when they measure his lane agility and lateral quickness. The wingspan, rim protection, and ability to read defensive plays is there though. That along with his shooting ability makes him an instant rotation player for us, if he can't play the 2 he would still be able to replace Boucher and he can fit with our current core.

Who's to say that Hendricks won't be better than Jarace Walker. Walker may look better because Houston is a better team?

Oh wait, they play in the same conference. Let's check head-to-head!

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2022-12-31-14-houston.html

Hendricks didn't shoot well but Jarace went 0 for 5.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/2023-01-25-19-central-florida.html

Game 2, they both shot 6 for 10 for 17 points a piece. Hendricks was able to get 4 blocks!