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Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back

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How should the team move forward this season?

Go for ping pong balls to draft a star potential prospect adding to our core.
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Core is good already, make a push for the playoffs even if it’s the play-in.
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I don’t know currently, going to wait and see.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1701 » by Psubs » Fri Feb 24, 2023 4:08 am

Los_29 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Reeko wrote:It's not his ability that people question, it's his long term availability.


His body type is different from past big men who got injured though....He has a skinny slim frame which the people around him are keeping it that way by design....Guys like Yao Ming had tree trunk legs and a heavy set upper body....In fact most bigs Wemby size were heavy framed which put lots of pressure on knees/foot thats what caused most injuries....Wemby has a KD slim framed body which should reduce his injury risk....But injuries are a risk for anyone...You do not go into evaluating a player basing it on injuries though...So even if he has an injury risk he is still going to be a HOF level prospect regardless imo


Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Ya, look at Chet Holmgren! :-?
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1702 » by Raps in 4 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:48 am

Yak is going to shut down French Chet when we face him next year.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1703 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:09 pm

Psubs wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
His body type is different from past big men who got injured though....He has a skinny slim frame which the people around him are keeping it that way by design....Guys like Yao Ming had tree trunk legs and a heavy set upper body....In fact most bigs Wemby size were heavy framed which put lots of pressure on knees/foot thats what caused most injuries....Wemby has a KD slim framed body which should reduce his injury risk....But injuries are a risk for anyone...You do not go into evaluating a player basing it on injuries though...So even if he has an injury risk he is still going to be a HOF level prospect regardless imo


Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Ya, look at Chet Holmgren! :-?


I think the two most injury prone types are the ++ 7 footer stringbean and the super athletic point guard, and this draft features both at the top. I would still take Wemby and run. You could easily win a title with him within 5 years.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1704 » by Wannabe MEP » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:19 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:I would still take Wemby and run. You could easily win a title with him within 5 years.

LeBron: 9 years
MJ: 7 years
Wemby: within 5 years
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1705 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri Feb 24, 2023 2:45 pm

Wannabe MEP wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:I would still take Wemby and run. You could easily win a title with him within 5 years.

LeBron: 9 years
MJ: 7 years
Wemby: within 5 years
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Tim Duncan: 2 years.
Kobe Bryant: 4 years.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1706 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Fri Feb 24, 2023 3:24 pm

Wannabe MEP wrote:
ATLTimekeeper wrote:I would still take Wemby and run. You could easily win a title with him within 5 years.

LeBron: 9 years
MJ: 7 years
Wemby: within 5 years
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1707 » by will » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:12 pm

Raps in 4 wrote:Yak is going to shut down French Chet when we face him next year.


If he ain't in early foul trouble.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1708 » by Clutch0z24 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 6:50 pm

Psubs wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
His body type is different from past big men who got injured though....He has a skinny slim frame which the people around him are keeping it that way by design....Guys like Yao Ming had tree trunk legs and a heavy set upper body....In fact most bigs Wemby size were heavy framed which put lots of pressure on knees/foot thats what caused most injuries....Wemby has a KD slim framed body which should reduce his injury risk....But injuries are a risk for anyone...You do not go into evaluating a player basing it on injuries though...So even if he has an injury risk he is still going to be a HOF level prospect regardless imo


Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Ya, look at Chet Holmgren! :-?


Look up Kareem Abdul Jabar, Wilt Chamberlin, Shaq, Hakeem, David Robinson, Patrick Ewing, Nikola Jokic , Robert Parish....There has been alot of big men in the NBA who also had long careers without suffering injuries (Maybe later in their careers) but mostly were dominant in their runs....

Injuries can happen to just about anyone....Sure tall guys are at a bigger risk because of their roles on the court so they have to "bang" down low with other players but all in all i really do not think Wemby will be hurt much cause of the style he plays and his body type....I mean hes 7 foot 5 and only 229 pounds....That means he is really really slim framed and light on his feet....Hes not like past bigs who are heavy set and putting lots of pressure on knee and foot....He has the style of game like a wing type player but in a big body..

Plus in todays era of the NBA where everyone sits out the injury risk has went down because of that as well....You still take Wemby and run regardless....He will be one of the best bigs to have ever played the game with his skillset and size...
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1709 » by OakleyDokely » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:02 pm

If I had #1, I'd take Wemby, but this does have a chance to play out like Zion/Ja.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1710 » by redeye514 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:13 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:I would still take Wemby and run. You could easily win a title with him within 5 years.

LeBron: 9 years
MJ: 7 years
Wemby: within 5 years
:o


Tim Duncan: 2 years.
Kobe Bryant: 4 years.


I have no opinion on Wemby, but Duncan / Kobe were fortunate to be drafted onto teams with existing Top 25 ALL TIME players on it in Robinson / Shaq. Wemby wont have that.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1711 » by 720 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:25 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:If I had #1, I'd take Wemby, but this does have a chance to play out like Zion/Ja.

For sure man. Scoot cannot fail. If Wemby won’t get hurt this is def a Zion Ja situation.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1712 » by Los_29 » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:32 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:If I had #1, I'd take Wemby, but this does have a chance to play out like Zion/Ja.


Yeah I think you have to take Wemby 1st overall. Scoot is a very talented player but he's no sure thing. He actually hasn't been as good as advertised so far in the G-League. You gamble on Wemby's potential. Even if he does struggle to stay healthy you might end up getting some dominant years out of him.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1713 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri Feb 24, 2023 7:53 pm

I hope Wemby goes out West

keep that guy away from us (unless we somehow get 1)
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1714 » by TrustFundBaby » Fri Feb 24, 2023 11:14 pm

Los_29 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
Reeko wrote:It's not his ability that people question, it's his long term availability.


His body type is different from past big men who got injured though....He has a skinny slim frame which the people around him are keeping it that way by design....Guys like Yao Ming had tree trunk legs and a heavy set upper body....In fact most bigs Wemby size were heavy framed which put lots of pressure on knees/foot thats what caused most injuries....Wemby has a KD slim framed body which should reduce his injury risk....But injuries are a risk for anyone...You do not go into evaluating a player basing it on injuries though...So even if he has an injury risk he is still going to be a HOF level prospect regardless imo


Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1715 » by Reeko » Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:33 am

TrustFundBaby wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Clutch0z24 wrote:
His body type is different from past big men who got injured though....He has a skinny slim frame which the people around him are keeping it that way by design....Guys like Yao Ming had tree trunk legs and a heavy set upper body....In fact most bigs Wemby size were heavy framed which put lots of pressure on knees/foot thats what caused most injuries....Wemby has a KD slim framed body which should reduce his injury risk....But injuries are a risk for anyone...You do not go into evaluating a player basing it on injuries though...So even if he has an injury risk he is still going to be a HOF level prospect regardless imo


Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.

It was pretty obvious at the time of the draft that Luka should have gone #1. Phoenix had the pressure of taking the Arizona product in Ayton, and then apparently that idiot Vivek Ranadive insisted on taking Bagley. Apparently Atlanta was trying to be Golden State east so they opted for Young. But Luka was an 18 yr old EuroLeague MVP, the youngest ever. What screwed him over at draft time was Ricky Rubio being such a flop after so much hype from an early age. Most people who watched video of Luka felt that he was the best prospect in that draft.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1716 » by Los_29 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 12:41 am

Reeko wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.

It was pretty obvious at the time of the draft that Luka should have gone #1. Phoenix had the pressure of taking the Arizona product in Ayton, and then apparently that idiot Vivek Ranadive insisted on taking Bagley. Apparently Atlanta was trying to be Golden State east so they opted for Young. But Luka was an 18 yr old EuroLeague MVP, the youngest ever. What screwed him over at draft time was Ricky Rubio being such a flop after so much hype from an early age. Most people who watched video of Luka felt that he was the best prospect in that draft.


Yep and quite a few people thought Luka was a generational type prospect. They were shocked to see that three teams passed on the opportunity to draft him. The things he was doing as an 18 year old in Europe was insane.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1717 » by TrustFundBaby » Sat Feb 25, 2023 1:33 am

Reeko wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.

It was pretty obvious at the time of the draft that Luka should have gone #1. Phoenix had the pressure of taking the Arizona product in Ayton, and then apparently that idiot Vivek Ranadive insisted on taking Bagley. Apparently Atlanta was trying to be Golden State east so they opted for Young. But Luka was an 18 yr old EuroLeague MVP, the youngest ever. What screwed him over at draft time was Ricky Rubio being such a flop after so much hype from an early age. Most people who watched video of Luka felt that he was the best prospect in that draft.


That's still 3 separate FO's that did not feel like Luka was the best prospect. To me, to be in the best prospect of all time tier, there should be no strong doubts about you in the draft process, it should be idiot proof. His criticisms turned out to be wrong, but there were concerns about his ceiling and that he was close to a finished product already, that he wouldn't be able to get by NBA defenders reliably etc

Victor has been consensus #1 in his draft 3 years running at this point.
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Post#1718 » by Madhouse » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:43 am

Just don't let Casey luck into this monster, man.

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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1719 » by 720 » Sat Feb 25, 2023 2:58 am

Reeko wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
Look up Ralph Sampson.

Some players have far more injury risk than others. Wemby is still obviously the clear cut #1 but he's not as good of a prospect as Lebron and Luka. Lebron and Luka would be considered far safer picks.

We've never seen someone with Wemby's body type have a long career in this league.


Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.

It was pretty obvious at the time of the draft that Luka should have gone #1. Phoenix had the pressure of taking the Arizona product in Ayton, and then apparently that idiot Vivek Ranadive insisted on taking Bagley. Apparently Atlanta was trying to be Golden State east so they opted for Young. But Luka was an 18 yr old EuroLeague MVP, the youngest ever. What screwed him over at draft time was Ricky Rubio being such a flop after so much hype from an early age. Most people who watched video of Luka felt that he was the best prospect in that draft.

I read the opposite, that Vivek wanted Luka but Divac the fellow countryman of Luka opted to go with Bagley.
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Re: Tank World Order (10.0) The Empire Strikes Back 

Post#1720 » by Reeko » Sat Feb 25, 2023 3:07 am

720 wrote:
Reeko wrote:
TrustFundBaby wrote:
Luka didn't even go #1 in his own draft class lol. PHX, SAC, and ATL all passed on him. Obvs that's on the GM's but strictly as a prospect Luka was never in the LBJ/KAJ/Shaq/Duncan/Wemby tier

Wembenyama has been considered the best prospect in the world since at least summer 2020. Mike Schmitz of DX was on Windhorst's pod that summer and they declared him that, at a time when there was still some Emoni bates hype. Jonathan Givony said he's the best prospect he's personally scouted.

Multiple analysts have declared him the best prospect since Bron, easily the highest expectations of any recent prospect.

It was pretty obvious at the time of the draft that Luka should have gone #1. Phoenix had the pressure of taking the Arizona product in Ayton, and then apparently that idiot Vivek Ranadive insisted on taking Bagley. Apparently Atlanta was trying to be Golden State east so they opted for Young. But Luka was an 18 yr old EuroLeague MVP, the youngest ever. What screwed him over at draft time was Ricky Rubio being such a flop after so much hype from an early age. Most people who watched video of Luka felt that he was the best prospect in that draft.

I read the opposite, that Vivek wanted Luka but Divac the fellow countryman of Luka opted to go with Bagley.

Nope. There's no way that Divac overrides Vivek. If Vivek wanted Luka, Luka would be a King right now.

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