Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available

[djsunyc]

RJ for Claxton swap?

so this is interesting because claxton has a reducing salary but also has a guaranteed 3rd year where rj can opt out.

rj also makes about $2 mil more this year and $6 mil more next year.

claxton: $25.3, $23.1, $20.9
rj: $27.7, $29.6, UFA

i don't see how we entice the nets to make this move without draft compensation.

maybe rj + 9 for claxton + 19?

we have tried to get claxton before. in terms of fit, he plays defense but doesn't provide darko's offensive style of play.

[Raptors Realtor]

RJ for Claxton swap?

so this is interesting because claxton has a reducing salary but also has a guaranteed 3rd year where rj can opt out.

rj also makes about $2 mil more this year and $6 mil more next year.

claxton: $25.3, $23.1, $20.9
rj: $27.7, $29.6, UFA

i don't see how we entice the nets to make this move without draft compensation.

maybe rj + 9 for claxton + 19?

we have tried to get claxton before. in terms of fit, he plays defense but doesn't provide darko's offensive style of play.

My guess is Claxton views himself as a starter and wouldn't be too excited about coming off the bench??

[bboyskinnylegs]

would eating Dejounte's contract for #7 be viable?

IQ/Shead/Dejounte
Gradey/Jakobe
Ingram/Battle
Scottie/?
Yak/Mogbo/Chomche

+#7, #9

maybe it's too much salary to take on.

[basketballto]

Just wait until someone tells you the only reason they won is cause they got lucky with Shai, Kawhi, PG and every other excuse under the sun.

They weren't lucky, it was their goat level drafting? They had the most picks and drafted one All-Star and a tall guy at number 2.

Without SGA you are looking at a playin team.

100% lucky to get SGA and 100% lucky he became what he became.

People give too much and too little credit to the wrong people.

They drafted Jwill at 12, who is a better player than anyone on this team and he's 23. Dude just put up 24/5/4 in the finals, made all NBA and All defence, but all they did was "draft an all star and a tall guy".

This is a twitter level take.

By twitter level do you mean you have been told this repeatedly on twitter and now associate any comment with your experiences on twitter which it seems you consider lower than comments here. Why are you on twitter if you consider it a lower quality experience? I'm not.

They drafted one all-star. They didn't uncover anything much with anything non lotto. An okay drafting team but nothing worth the praise. This fits in 140 characters.

[Westside Gunn]

So here I was thinking that the RJ rumours would die off after Durant gets traded to Houston and the team we have is the product we will have come training camp.

Then some random twitter account says we are shopping RJ and the rumours are back on.

Are we trading him for the sake of trading him at this point? The rumours besides Giannis have been pretty meh. Rather have RJ on the team than to move him.

[Tor_Raps]

So here I was thinking that the RJ rumours would die off after Durant gets traded to Houston and the team we have is the product we will have come training camp.

Then some random twitter account says we are shopping RJ and the rumours are back on.

Are we trading him for the sake of trading him at this point? The rumours besides Giannis have been pretty meh. Rather have RJ on the team than to move him.

My guess is that the Raptors view Ochai as a better fit in the starting lineup since he can shoot the 3 and guard the perimeter much better playing alongside Ingram/Barnes.

In a perfect world, RJ would make making 10M less to become an elite 6th man. Hes gotta take his 3 and D to another level this offseason to justify starting.

[Asif16]

I think another reason why Rj is showing up in trade rumors, is because Masai probably knows that he's a really bad fit next to the Ingram/Scottie/Poetl front court.

RJ can't space the floor and is heavily reliant on drives to the basket to be efficient. Considering Ingram and Scottie are going to be primarily ball handlers and rim attackers, RJ is redundant.

It just makes to swap him for another younger player that fits. It's probably why we're linked to guys like Cam Johnson and Malik Monk because they can space the floor better

[Asif16]

Would yall do

Rj Barret + 9 for Robert Williams + Shaedon Sharpe + Toumani Camara?

[JB7]

I think another reason why Rj is showing up in trade rumors, is because Masai probably knows that he's a really bad fit next to the Ingram/Scottie/Poetl front court.

RJ can't space the floor and is heavily reliant on drives to the basket to be efficient. Considering Ingram and Scottie are going to be primarily ball handlers and rim attackers, RJ is redundant.

It just makes to swap him for another younger player that fits. It's probably why we're linked to guys like Cam Johnson and Malik Monk because they can space the floor better

Are BI and Barnes going to get to the rim like RJ?

If RJ, IQ and Yak's names are out there, it is because Masai is trying to get a read on what value he might see in potential trades. Doesn't mean he is prepared to just give any of them away. He already knows the return for BI.

Next step is to start the season, and see if the teams overall improvement can then up the value of the players.

[MEDIC]

Would you trade Barrett for Dillon Brooks + Ighadaro + filler?

Why would the Suns? Brooks is one of the few pieces they have that fits with Booker I think. Anyway, a friend of mine told me to stop throwing RJ in trade ideas haha.

Personally, I don't even want to trade RJ. I like him.

I just want to see what the "trade RJ crowd" would accept.

I like Brooks too....and I like Oso. You would basically be trading offense for defense.

[C_Money]

So here I was thinking that the RJ rumours would die off after Durant gets traded to Houston and the team we have is the product we will have come training camp.

Then some random twitter account says we are shopping RJ and the rumours are back on.

Are we trading him for the sake of trading him at this point? The rumours besides Giannis have been pretty meh. Rather have RJ on the team than to move him.

My guess is that the Raptors view Ochai as a better fit in the starting lineup since he can shoot the 3 and guard the perimeter much better playing alongside Ingram/Barnes.

In a perfect world, RJ would make making 10M less to become an elite 6th man. Hes gotta take his 3 and D to another level this offseason to justify starting.

I still need to see Ochai repeat what he did last year before we start talking about extensions or putting him in the SL. Guys like him tend to have streaky 3 pt percentages from year to year.

[LoveMyRaps]

Would yall do

Rj Barret + 9 for Robert Williams + Shaedon Sharpe + Toumani Camara?

LMAOOO Why would Blazers ever do this???

Blazers wouldn't even consider RJ + #9 for Camara alone...

[Tor_Raps]

So here I was thinking that the RJ rumours would die off after Durant gets traded to Houston and the team we have is the product we will have come training camp.

Then some random twitter account says we are shopping RJ and the rumours are back on.

Are we trading him for the sake of trading him at this point? The rumours besides Giannis have been pretty meh. Rather have RJ on the team than to move him.

My guess is that the Raptors view Ochai as a better fit in the starting lineup since he can shoot the 3 and guard the perimeter much better playing alongside Ingram/Barnes.

In a perfect world, RJ would make making 10M less to become an elite 6th man. Hes gotta take his 3 and D to another level this offseason to justify starting.

I still need to see Ochai repeat what he did last year before we start talking about extensions or putting him in the SL. Guys like him tend to have streaky 3 pt percentages from year to year.

I'd counter by saying guys who enter their contract year usually up their game in hopes of the large payday. Especially when theyre on their upward trajectory as a 4th year player so if I had to bet, im betting on Ochai's best season yet.

Worst case, we'd still have Walter and Dick. Training camp will determine who should get the most playing time anyways.

[Syd-TK3]

Would yall do

Rj Barret + 9 for Robert Williams + Shaedon Sharpe + Toumani Camara?

Lol why would the Blazers willingly get fleeced like this

[PushDaRock]

Would you trade Barrett for Dillon Brooks + Ighadaro + filler?

Why would the Suns? Brooks is one of the few pieces they have that fits with Booker I think. Anyway, a friend of mine told me to stop throwing RJ in trade ideas haha.

Personally, I don't even want to trade RJ. I like him.

I just want to see what the "trade RJ crowd" would accept.

I like Brooks too....and I like Oso. You would basically be trading offense for defense.

They would probably trade him for anything just to get him off the team.

[PushDaRock]

RJ for Claxton swap?

so this is interesting because claxton has a reducing salary but also has a guaranteed 3rd year where rj can opt out.

rj also makes about $2 mil more this year and $6 mil more next year.

claxton: $25.3, $23.1, $20.9
rj: $27.7, $29.6, UFA

i don't see how we entice the nets to make this move without draft compensation.

maybe rj + 9 for claxton + 19?

we have tried to get claxton before. in terms of fit, he plays defense but doesn't provide darko's offensive style of play.

lol if this is the value you think RJ has, we are better off just letting his contract expire in 2 years

[douggood]

Would yall do

Rj Barret + 9 for Robert Williams + Shaedon Sharpe + Toumani Camara?

let me get into JRoy mind set

blazers pass

[The Duke]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

[Tripod]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

Offseason hasn't even really begun....lol.

And we already have our upgrade in BI.

It's still very early

[djsunyc]

A lot of the roster pieces don’t actually (ideally) fit together … so maybe we’re shopping them …. But we’re finding out, those pieces just don’t have the value (play/skill/contract) in exchange …. And so nothing is getting done…. We’re picking at #9 and running it back waiting for more years to tick off players contracts.

Not really all that surprising.

that's a pretty big conclusion to reach based solely on the kd deal.