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Post#1722 » by links135 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 1:56 am

bape_lovers wrote:Wiggins didn’t commit ?


https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=Wiggins+Canada+Basketball

I would say this is enough, but this is actually showing a bunch of 2021 stuff, anyways, there's this thing called google, if you put in Wiggins + Canada + Basketball you'll probably find your answer.
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Post#1723 » by Yeezus_ » Wed Aug 2, 2023 2:05 am

Not sure if Murray will sign an extension this summer or try and become super max eligible but signing an extension now should help his chances of playing this month I would think.
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Post#1725 » by Tor_Raps » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:11 am

Does Team Canada have any warm up games before the World Cup?
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Post#1726 » by frumble » Wed Aug 2, 2023 3:28 am

Tor_Raps wrote:Does Team Canada have any warm up games before the World Cup?


Yes, starting next Wednesday.

Mojo pasted the schedule a page or two up:

8/9 vs Germany
8/12 vs New Zealand
8/13 vs Germany/China
8/18 vs Spain
8/19 vs Domincan Rep
Maybe 1 more in Jakarta 22nd-23rd
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Post#1728 » by mojo13 » Wed Aug 2, 2023 8:00 pm

How you all thinking about starting line up and rotation?
Assuming they all get through camp and the exhibitions unscathed there is a bit of a minutes crunch here.

My final 12 is fairly set and it'll be tough for me to move off this.

7 Guard/Wings: SGA, Murray, Cojo, NAW, Dort, Barrett, Brooks
5 Bigs: Olynyk, Powell, Edey, Alexander, Brissett

I think you need Alexander in there due to position scarcity (over Robertson, Scrubbs, Pangos etc). It hurts me to leave Pangos off this, but I think he has other issues as well (health, contract status).

I have 4 starters set:
SGA
Murray
???
Olynyk
Powell

KO and Powell are the most experienced here and play well off each other. I really don't think we realistically would start with a Brooks, Brissett or even Dort at the 4. Powell and Olynyk are pretty much locked for me.

But who is that wing starter? Barrett/Brooks seem the obvious choices but Dort or NAW could be interesting fits. We have serious offensive effecientcy issues with Brooks, Dort, Barrett at the moment. None can really shoot, none can finish in the paint well. Brooks and Barrett I question would accept a 4th option role as a starter (but no one really knows). I may be in the mninority with NAW, but I like his potential as a more effecient, low-usage offensive player who brings aggressive defense and is more likley to accept a lesser role on offense (and excel at it).

I'm not so sure Barrett gets the call as starter despite everyone seemingly pointing to it. Dort and Brooks could be a real iffy mix and I'm not sure if they should be on the floor together for extended minutes. Don't they need to be somewhat staggered?
Maybe Brooks gets some time as a back-up 4? Wouldn't Barrett be better off the bench in a higher usage role? Where does NAW fit into all of this? SGA and Murray sort of need to be staggared as well to make sure we have adaquat shooting on the floor at all times too. I'm fine parking CoJo into a much more reserve PG role.

I'm sort of at a loss on who starts on the wiing at what the rotation looks like amongst the guards and wings.

I hate to say this, but I'm guessing we still have a player or two drop out and that will be what solves this riddle.
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Post#1729 » by PoundTown » Wed Aug 2, 2023 8:08 pm

mojo13 wrote:How you all thinking about starting line up and rotation?
Assuming they all get through camp and the exhibitions unscathed there is a bit of a minutes crunch here.

My final 12 is fairly set and it'll be tough for me to move off this.

7 Guard/Wings: SGA, Murray, Cojo, NAW, Dort, Barrett, Brooks
5 Bigs: Olynyk, Powell, Edey, Alexander, Brissett

I think you need Alexander in there due to position scarcity (over Robertson, Scrubbs, Pangos etc). It hurts me to leave Pangos off this, but I think he has other issues as well (health, contract status).

I have 4 starters set:
SGA
Murray
???
Olynyk
Powell

KO and Powell are the most experienced here and play well off each other. I really don't think we realistically would start with a Brooks, Brissett or even Dort at the 4. Powell and Olynyk are pretty much locked for me.

But who is that wing starter? Barrett/Brooks seem the obvious choices but Dort or NAW could be interesting fits. We have serious offensive effecientcy issues with Brooks, Dort, Barrett at the moment. None can really shoot, none can finish in the paint well. Brooks and Barrett I question would accept a 4th option role as a starter (but no one really knows). I may be in the mninority with NAW, but I like his potential as a more effecient, low-usage offensive player who brings aggressive defense and is more likley to accept a lesser role on offense (and excel at it).

I'm not so sure Barrett gets the call as starter despite everyone seemingly pointing to it. Dort and Brooks could be a real iffy mix and I'm not sure if they should be on the floor together for extended minutes. Don't they need to be somewhat staggered?
Maybe Brooks gets some time as a back-up 4? Wouldn't Barrett be better off the bench in a higher usage role? Where does NAW fit into all of this? SGA and Murray sort of need to be staggared as well to make sure we have adaquat shooting on the floor at all times too. I'm fine parking CoJo into a much more reserve PG role.

I'm sort of at a loss on who starts on the wiing at what the rotation looks like amongst the guards and wings.

I hate to say this, but I'm guessing we still have a player or two drop out and that will be what solves this riddle.


It's a toss up between RJ and Brooks, but I think I like Brooks off the bench better, because if we do go small for the minutes Kelly doesn't play at the 4, it could be him, otherwise Brissett at the backup 4. RJ is the better shooter and can really play off the starting frontcourt. This will be exciting to watch.
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Post#1730 » by niQ » Wed Aug 2, 2023 8:13 pm

As much as I'd love to see a pairing of SGA and Murray, we still don't know whether Murray will actually play.

If Murray does play, I'd still imagine Barrett or Brooks to start at 3 for their size.
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Post#1731 » by niQ » Thu Aug 3, 2023 12:46 am

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Post#1732 » by Boardbreaker » Thu Aug 3, 2023 1:25 am

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Man, all of these SGA quotes got me feeling a certain kind of way. Is this what it's like? To have an all-world basketball player who actually wants to play for OUR national team?

How cool would it be if SGA committed to the program like the Gasol brothers did for Spain or Scola for Argentina?

Can't wait for the tourney to kick-off.

I mean we had Nash but the team around him was nowhere near this good
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Post#1733 » by SharoneWright » Thu Aug 3, 2023 1:33 am

It's really too bad Anthony Bennett didn't reach 38% of his potential. We could really use more PF depth with size and force. Alas.
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Post#1735 » by Dino-Might » Thu Aug 3, 2023 3:04 am

SharoneWright wrote:It's really too bad Anthony Bennett didn't reach 38% of his potential. We could really use more PF depth with size and force. Alas.


It's pretty clear by now that Anthony Bennett never had 38% of the potential anyone thought he did in the first place. And that's considering the fact that he was considered a reach at #1 by most people when it happened. He was bullying the little kids in college with his athleticism but he never actually had the skills to be a good NBA player.
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Post#1736 » by ItsDanger » Thu Aug 3, 2023 3:08 am

Sounds like they're going to ease Murray into lineup during exhibition games. Hopefully he plays.

I'd consider using Brooks at the 4 depending on what the matchups are.

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Post#1737 » by Dino-Might » Thu Aug 3, 2023 3:15 am

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Not completely unequivocal, but it does sound like Jamal is going to give it a shot and try to slowly ramp up to play.

I think Team Canada and Barrett are the ones that are being cautious for Jamal's sake but he really does want to play at the World Cup. In his answer, he goes further and says that his body, his pace is different from everyone else right now because he is trying to stick to his jump shot for now.

If you think about it, if he had no intention of playing this year, he probably would not have even shown up as it really cuts into his downtime.
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Post#1738 » by SharoneWright » Thu Aug 3, 2023 3:58 am

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SharoneWright wrote:It's really too bad Anthony Bennett didn't reach 38% of his potential. We could really use more PF depth with size and force. Alas.


It's pretty clear by now that Anthony Bennett never had 38% of the potential anyone thought he did in the first place. And that's considering the fact that he was considered a reach at #1 by most people when it happened. He was bullying the little kids in college with his athleticism but he never actually had the skills to be a good NBA player.

Pretty aggressive,, but ok?

It’s not just like you and Bill Summons were the only ones to know he was a reach. But thanks for planting your flag 12 years later. You are/were firmly in the majority regarding his draft choice. So that’s awesome for you!

Point is,, it’s too bad Bennett busted. Like so many other names before him… we could have used him. Just like a Greg Newton.

Also too bad Todd McCullough got a nerve disease. It’s just unfortunate.
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Post#1739 » by Dino-Might » Thu Aug 3, 2023 4:26 am

SharoneWright wrote:
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SharoneWright wrote:It's really too bad Anthony Bennett didn't reach 38% of his potential. We could really use more PF depth with size and force. Alas.


It's pretty clear by now that Anthony Bennett never had 38% of the potential anyone thought he did in the first place. And that's considering the fact that he was considered a reach at #1 by most people when it happened. He was bullying the little kids in college with his athleticism but he never actually had the skills to be a good NBA player.

Pretty aggressive,, but ok?

It’s not just like you and Bill Summons were the only ones to know he was a reach. But thanks for planting your flag 12 years later. You are/were firmly in the majority regarding his draft choice. So that’s awesome for you!

Point is,, it’s too bad Bennett busted. Like so many other names before him…

Also too bad Todd McCullough got a nerve disease. It’s just unfortunate.


Didn’t mean to come across as a jerk. Just distinctly remember that Bennett was nowhere near #1 on any of the draft boards leading up to the draft. He was maybe considered in the top 5-10 range and it was a shock when he went #1.
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Post#1740 » by SharoneWright » Thu Aug 3, 2023 4:30 am

Dino-Might wrote:
SharoneWright wrote:
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It's pretty clear by now that Anthony Bennett never had 38% of the potential anyone thought he did in the first place. And that's considering the fact that he was considered a reach at #1 by most people when it happened. He was bullying the little kids in college with his athleticism but he never actually had the skills to be a good NBA player.

Pretty aggressive,, but ok?

It’s not just like you and Bill Summons were the only ones to know he was a reach. But thanks for planting your flag 12 years later. You are/were firmly in the majority regarding his draft choice. So that’s awesome for you!

Point is,, it’s too bad Bennett busted. Like so many other names before him…

Also too bad Todd McCullough got a nerve disease. It’s just unfortunate.


Didn’t mean to come across as a jerk. Just distinctly remember that Bennett was nowhere near #1 on any of the draft boards leading up to the draft. He was maybe considered in the top 5-10 range and it was a shock when he went #1.


Fine. Thanks for not wanting to be a jerk. And everybody who follows the NBA knows he was a reach.

My only point was I wish he could be 37% of his actual projected level. We could use another power forward. We could use some size. We could use a bully. It’s too bad he busted.
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