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Tank World Order (7.0)

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What do you think is ideal for this Raptors team?

Add another lottery prospect with star potential to the team.
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Team is great already, make a push for the playoffs even if it’s the play-in.
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I don’t know currently, going to wait and see.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1741 » by TRik » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:05 am

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Pooh_Jeter wrote:This current iteration of TWO was vindicated after the lotto and getting Barnes.

I'm glad the OG crew was vindicated with Wiggins being named an all star starter.

It's incredible the impact TWO has had over the years.


1. Lets ignore the fact that not tanking for Wiggins was the start of the greatest run in franchise history which culminated in an NBA championship.

2. Lets ignore the fact that Wiggins had to get out of tanking environment to actually develop. Its been 8 yrs since he was drafted.

3. Lets ignore the fact the "OG TWO" said the 2014 lottery was going to have multiple franchise players. Top 10 picks - Andrew Wiggins-Jabari Parker, Joel Embiid-Aaron Gordan-Dante Exum-Marcus Smart-Julius Randle-Noah Vonleh-Nik Stauskas-Elfrid Payton. Outside of Embiid, I dont see any cornerstone players. What I do see is A LOT of scrubs.

4. Lets also ignore the fact that getting Barnes was a result of injuries + covid + tampa + winning the lottery when there were 70% odds against the Raptors winning the lottery.

5. Lets ignore the fact TWO was pushing hard for another tank before this season even began.

TWO needs to stop thinking in binary and be more flexible. The ability to think dynamically based on changing information and circumstances is what the best run teams in the NBA are able to do. Building a contender can be done in many different ways.


This one took Pooh’s post seriously. Hahaha.

Sorry to laugh dude, but you got to know who you’re replying to before getting so serious.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1742 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 30, 2022 2:07 pm

i need him on our squad


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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1743 » by DelAbbot » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:14 pm

Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1744 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:20 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.


We'll most likely get a pick in the 14-18 range.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1745 » by Ref_from_hell » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:36 pm

DelAbbot wrote:Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.

Birch is still an important piece. Hope to have him back soon.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1746 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:46 pm

AJ Griffin would be PERFECT.

But realistically I've moved onto the Brown/Tyty/Sochan/Eason tier. Maybe Mark Williams if we want a Center
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1747 » by HumbleRen » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:46 pm

is John Butler a possible guy to get in our current draft range ? He's exactly what we need off the bench.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1748 » by will » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:47 pm

HumbleRen wrote:is John Butler a possible guy to get in our current draft range ? He's exactly what we need off the bench.


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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1749 » by KrazyP » Sun Jan 30, 2022 3:58 pm

TRik wrote:
KrazyP wrote:
Pooh_Jeter wrote:This current iteration of TWO was vindicated after the lotto and getting Barnes.

I'm glad the OG crew was vindicated with Wiggins being named an all star starter.

It's incredible the impact TWO has had over the years.


1. Lets ignore the fact that not tanking for Wiggins was the start of the greatest run in franchise history which culminated in an NBA championship.

2. Lets ignore the fact that Wiggins had to get out of tanking environment to actually develop. Its been 8 yrs since he was drafted.

3. Lets ignore the fact the "OG TWO" said the 2014 lottery was going to have multiple franchise players. Top 10 picks - Andrew Wiggins-Jabari Parker, Joel Embiid-Aaron Gordan-Dante Exum-Marcus Smart-Julius Randle-Noah Vonleh-Nik Stauskas-Elfrid Payton. Outside of Embiid, I dont see any cornerstone players. What I do see is A LOT of scrubs.

4. Lets also ignore the fact that getting Barnes was a result of injuries + covid + tampa + winning the lottery when there were 70% odds against the Raptors winning the lottery.

5. Lets ignore the fact TWO was pushing hard for another tank before this season even began.

TWO needs to stop thinking in binary and be more flexible. The ability to think dynamically based on changing information and circumstances is what the best run teams in the NBA are able to do. Building a contender can be done in many different ways.


This one took Pooh’s post seriously. Hahaha.

Sorry to laugh dude, but you got to know who you’re replying to before getting so serious.


TWO posts so much nonsense that makes no sense that its hard to decipher the difference between when they're being serious and when they're joking.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1750 » by Madhouse » Sun Jan 30, 2022 4:45 pm

HumbleRen wrote:is John Butler a possible guy to get in our current draft range ? He's exactly what we need off the bench.


2023 draft entree I would guess. He needs to gain about 20-25 pounds, just don't think he is ready yet but he has scary potential with his elite 3 point shooting and shot blocking.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1751 » by tdotrep2 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 10:45 pm

Los_29 wrote:
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I didn't see anyone against tanking towards the end of the year last year.

half the game threads were praying for wins vs garbage teams right before masai came out and said play in for what, what r u saying


Not a chance. At least not the game threads I remember. You think people would be praying for wins with Bembry, Stanley, Gillespie, Yuta and Flynn starting? :lol:

I also vividly remember members of tWo denying we were actually tanking.

yes, and then when masai came out and said play in for what it was a big told you so. i dont know how to you dont remember
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1752 » by Los_29 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:15 pm

tdotrep2 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:
tdotrep2 wrote:half the game threads were praying for wins vs garbage teams right before masai came out and said play in for what, what r u saying


Not a chance. At least not the game threads I remember. You think people would be praying for wins with Bembry, Stanley, Gillespie, Yuta and Flynn starting? :lol:

I also vividly remember members of tWo denying we were actually tanking.

yes, and then when masai came out and said play in for what it was a big told you so. i dont know how to you dont remember


But it wasn’t a big told you so because nobody wanted that play-in.

I don’t understand what you guys think you were right about. I legitimately don’t know. You wanted to tank at the beginning of the year. Masai didn’t. Others were a lot more flexible and wanted to take a wait and see approach. That’s what Masai did and looks like he will be doing this year. Then when he started tanking last year you guys were saying he wasn’t tanking and were going for the play-in by signing Birch and Gillespie.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1753 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:51 pm

I mean a bunch of people were on team compete til the very end Los. Til the very very end. Del was sort of trying to add them to the tWo at the end of the season when they gave up all hope.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1754 » by 720 » Sun Jan 30, 2022 11:54 pm

Did you guys see the Chiefs choke that one away? :banghead:
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1755 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:03 am

Did they tank for Mahomes?
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1756 » by Los_29 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:19 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Did they tank for Mahomes?


That was a treadmill pick. Believe he was like the 10th pick. Burrow was 1st overall though. Bengals won because Burrow was the higher pick. Burrow has that high lottery swag.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1757 » by Los_29 » Mon Jan 31, 2022 12:24 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:I mean a bunch of people were on team compete til the very end Los. Til the very very end. Del was sort of trying to add them to the tWo at the end of the season when they gave up all hope.


Well I’m sure there were a couple on there but a couple posters don’t reflect what the majority of people wanted.

No one was clamouring for wins when we trotted out our G-league squad.
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1758 » by DelAbbot » Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:05 am

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:Did they tank for Mahomes?


Draft: Kansas City Chiefs in the 1st round (10th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft.


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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1759 » by Saul Goodman » Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:11 am

How far is Shaedon Sharpe going to climb? He’d be the perfect project to take a swing on
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Re: Tank World Order (7.0) 

Post#1760 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:37 am

DelAbbot wrote:Team fully healthy, and NN overplaying the starters so the tank is stuck in mud. Cant break through. Going to be around .500 looks like.


So far its looking that way. Theres been enough proof of how this team performs when healthy and that is .500 team.

Gonna be interesting to see if we had at deadline. Id only expect a small bench move.

I just hate sitting 8-11. We’ll see how masai handles it down the stretch. Doubt he wants to sit in play in if he didnt last season

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