2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2
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I don’t want the Raptors to pick #1
They’d probably be ‘forced’ to pick Flagg
Give me #2!
They’d probably be ‘forced’ to pick Flagg
Give me #2!
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ArthurVandelay wrote:I don’t want the Raptors to pick #1
They’d probably be ‘forced’ to pick Flagg
Give me #2!
Forced to pick Flagg sounds good to me
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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We don't need to worry about any of that start looking at potential 8th picks

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People are insane for wanting Bailey over Flagg.
I understand I'm lower than consensus on Bailey, actually a lot lower. That being said Flagg is one of the top 5 prospects in the last 20 years.
I understand I'm lower than consensus on Bailey, actually a lot lower. That being said Flagg is one of the top 5 prospects in the last 20 years.
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Syd-TK3 wrote:We don't need to worry about any of that start looking at potential 8th picks
If we’re picking 8 I’d just take who’s left between Fears and Maluach, but I’d be pissed that we missed out on the others.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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If Brucey B can get us Ingram (who we could leave out for the season) I’m all in. Run it back next year with a top 5 pick, plus BI, AND have that Pacers pick in our back pocket? Intriguing.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:We don't need to worry about any of that start looking at potential 8th picks
If we’re picking 8 I’d just take who’s left between Fears and Maluach, but I’d be pissed that we missed out on the others.
I can see Masai taking a chance on Demin at 8th tbh
Always been linked to those typa players. (Dyson, Giddey)

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Syd-TK3 wrote:We don't need to worry about any of that start looking at potential 8th picks
If we’re picking 8 I’d just take who’s left between Fears and Maluach, but I’d be pissed that we missed out on the others.
We will watch the top picks become stars while we end up with another meh role player who may become a decent starter one day....Thats what happens when you are a bad team but are better then all the other bad teams in the league....You are not really winning anything with that strategy....We have to just pray on draft lotto night we move up because its possible if we are like 7-8th we move down to 9th/10th....Luck will play a big factor for us.

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Yallbecrazy wrote:People are insane for wanting Bailey over Flagg.
I understand I'm lower than consensus on Bailey, actually a lot lower. That being said Flagg is one of the top 5 prospects in the last 20 years.
Really his ceiling is white Lebron. A little more PF/C built with slightly worse guard skills.

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BoyzNTheHood wrote:If Brucey B can get us Ingram (who we could leave out for the season) I’m all in. Run it back next year with a top 5 pick, plus BI, AND have that Pacers pick in our back pocket? Intriguing.
I low-key actually love this scenario.
Also keep in mind that potentially leaves RJ + those picks as potential trade assets should an even bigger star become available next or even further down the line. If you can create a core of Scottie, Ingram, top 8 pick + whoever you net in a trade -- I think you got something! And even if you don't go the trade route, you could still potentially draft a couple more 1st rounders next year that help get those guys over the hump or just be used at later date past the 26' season as you would have a plethora of good young players. I'm not sure what more you can ask for.
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I liked Kel'el Ware last year but Indiana won too much at the end. Isn't Zvonimir a similar prospect as Ware was? Same concerns that Ware had were the ones that people have for Z.

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Psubs wrote:I liked Kel'el Ware last year but Indiana won too much at the end. Isn't Zvonimir a similar prospect as Ware was? Same concerns that Ware had were the ones that people have for Z.
I need someone that loves me as much as you love Zvonimir
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PhilBlackson wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:If Brucey B can get us Ingram (who we could leave out for the season) I’m all in. Run it back next year with a top 5 pick, plus BI, AND have that Pacers pick in our back pocket? Intriguing.
I low-key actually love this scenario.
Also keep in mind that potentially leaves RJ + those picks as potential trade assets should an even bigger star become available next or even further down the line. If you can create a core of Scottie, Ingram, top 8 pick + whoever you net in a trade -- I think you got something! And even if you don't go the trade route, you could still potentially draft a couple more 1st rounders next year that help get those guys over the hump or just be used at later date past the 26' season as you would have a plethora of good young players. I'm not sure what more you can ask for.
Ingram (or potentially even Zion) seems like exactly the kind of reclamation project that Masai loves to take a chance on.
Let's say we start next season with Ingram and Edgecome, Traore or Jakucionis to develop from the draft - along with RJ, Quickley, Barnes, Agbaji, Poeltl, Walter or Dick (depending on if they get included in the trade). That team is ready to go for the next decade potentially and like you said could still package RJ or Quickley with the Pacers pick to consolidate some more.
Other than getting lucky with a top 3 pick, this is an ideal scenario. Your move, Masai!

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Got Nuffin wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:BoyzNTheHood wrote:If Brucey B can get us Ingram (who we could leave out for the season) I’m all in. Run it back next year with a top 5 pick, plus BI, AND have that Pacers pick in our back pocket? Intriguing.
I low-key actually love this scenario.
Also keep in mind that potentially leaves RJ + those picks as potential trade assets should an even bigger star become available next or even further down the line. If you can create a core of Scottie, Ingram, top 8 pick + whoever you net in a trade -- I think you got something! And even if you don't go the trade route, you could still potentially draft a couple more 1st rounders next year that help get those guys over the hump or just be used at later date past the 26' season as you would have a plethora of good young players. I'm not sure what more you can ask for.
Ingram (or potentially even Zion) seems like exactly the kind of reclamation project that Masai loves to take a chance on.
Let's say we start next season with Ingram and Edgecome, Traore or Jakucionis to develop from the draft - along with RJ, Quickley, Barnes, Agbaji, Poeltl, Walter or Dick (depending on if they get included in the trade). That team is ready to go for the next decade potentially and like you said could still package RJ or Quickley with the Pacers pick to consolidate some more.
Other than getting lucky with a top 3 pick, this is an ideal scenario. Your move, Masai!
That team is already going to be capped out, with the FGAs spoken for for the next decade. I don't see the Ingram thing as viable.
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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:PhilBlackson wrote:
I low-key actually love this scenario.
Also keep in mind that potentially leaves RJ + those picks as potential trade assets should an even bigger star become available next or even further down the line. If you can create a core of Scottie, Ingram, top 8 pick + whoever you net in a trade -- I think you got something! And even if you don't go the trade route, you could still potentially draft a couple more 1st rounders next year that help get those guys over the hump or just be used at later date past the 26' season as you would have a plethora of good young players. I'm not sure what more you can ask for.
Ingram (or potentially even Zion) seems like exactly the kind of reclamation project that Masai loves to take a chance on.
Let's say we start next season with Ingram and Edgecome, Traore or Jakucionis to develop from the draft - along with RJ, Quickley, Barnes, Agbaji, Poeltl, Walter or Dick (depending on if they get included in the trade). That team is ready to go for the next decade potentially and like you said could still package RJ or Quickley with the Pacers pick to consolidate some more.
Other than getting lucky with a top 3 pick, this is an ideal scenario. Your move, Masai!
That team is already going to be capped out, with the FGAs spoken for for the next decade. I don't see the Ingram thing as viable.
I think RJ would have to be outgoing for it to be even close to viable IMO, from both a future salary commitment and FGA perspective. But it would be pretty interesting if the acquisition cost is also ridiculously cheap.
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earthtone wrote:Psubs wrote:I liked Kel'el Ware last year but Indiana won too much at the end. Isn't Zvonimir a similar prospect as Ware was? Same concerns that Ware had were the ones that people have for Z.
I need someone that loves me as much as you love Zvonimir
I also like Alex Condon but he's in a good situation at Florida and would need a 1st pick or else he could turn pro at Aussie Football. I wonder if he can play both in the AFL and the NBL?
Oh wow:
AFL March 7-Sept 28
NBL Sep 19 - Feb 8
So just miss a bit of the beginning of the NBL season.
Big Z has been nailed to the bench and not been consistent with inconsistent PT so the Portland pick might be enough as he'll likely just turn pro like his brother who might be a late 1st pick.

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Flagg
Ace
Harper
Jak
Tre Johnson
Edgecombe
Malauch
That's not top 7. Hopefully we can get one of these guys.
Ace
Harper
Jak
Tre Johnson
Edgecombe
Malauch
That's not top 7. Hopefully we can get one of these guys.
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Jerry Lucas wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:Got Nuffin wrote:
Ingram (or potentially even Zion) seems like exactly the kind of reclamation project that Masai loves to take a chance on.
Let's say we start next season with Ingram and Edgecome, Traore or Jakucionis to develop from the draft - along with RJ, Quickley, Barnes, Agbaji, Poeltl, Walter or Dick (depending on if they get included in the trade). That team is ready to go for the next decade potentially and like you said could still package RJ or Quickley with the Pacers pick to consolidate some more.
Other than getting lucky with a top 3 pick, this is an ideal scenario. Your move, Masai!
That team is already going to be capped out, with the FGAs spoken for for the next decade. I don't see the Ingram thing as viable.
I think RJ would have to be outgoing for it to be even close to viable IMO, from both a future salary commitment and FGA perspective. But it would be pretty interesting if the acquisition cost is also ridiculously cheap.
RJ could be outgoing, or we could try to convince him and Quick to come off the bench. It’s A LOT of money off the bench, but it ensures you mop the floor with teams second units.
Have Scottie, BI, the pick this year, Jak and either Gradey or Kobe run the starting lineup, and let IQ, RJ and Gradey/Kobe come off the bench with the 26 Indy pick moving forward. Drool worthy.
If at some point you make one more move for a disgruntled superstar you’re laughing.
deeps6x wrote:I guarantee you that (Jaylen) Brown and (Kris) Dunn are drafted OUT of the top 5.
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BoyzNTheHood wrote:Jerry Lucas wrote:ATLTimekeeper wrote:
That team is already going to be capped out, with the FGAs spoken for for the next decade. I don't see the Ingram thing as viable.
I think RJ would have to be outgoing for it to be even close to viable IMO, from both a future salary commitment and FGA perspective. But it would be pretty interesting if the acquisition cost is also ridiculously cheap.
RJ could be outgoing, or we could try to convince him and Quick to come off the bench. It’s A LOT of money off the bench, but it ensures you mop the floor with teams second units.
Have Scottie, BI, the pick this year, Jak and either Gradey or Kobe run the starting lineup, and let IQ, RJ and Gradey/Kobe come off the bench with the 26 Indy pick moving forward. Drool worthy.
If at some point you make one more move for a disgruntled superstar you’re laughing.
The problem is that as of now the Raptors only have about $37M in tax space heading into next season according to Spotrac. If Ingram is looking for around $40M per season on his next deal, plus you gotta factor in that our FRP this year will be on a top 6-ish rookie scale, some 2025-26 money would have to move out.
Between RJ, Kelly and Davion they would have to move out some 2025-26 salary from this group of players to make room under the tax for Ingram and our 2025 FRP (and I'm not sure just Kelly+Davion would be enough).
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