2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

[youngRAPZ]

Playing men's league guys to close every game. Find another team that has done this. Show the roster

As opposed to the teams who rest their entire roster, or make up fake injuries?

Utah is playing drafted 1st round guys. Same w the hornets, pelicans, wiz. Be honest here. We are playing g league guys

Brother just say you never heard of the NBA before 2018 and be done with it. How you can claim we are the only team ever to play g league players down the stretch is beyond me. I mean you’re either a really bad troll or just completely oblivious.


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[ATLTimekeeper]

Ace had like 3 great games and he's consensus top 5? Nah man, he's still had a weak season for a hyped prospect.

This draft in generally has just seemed way overhyped to me. It's kind of Cooper Flagg or bust for me. Looking at the Top 5 in this draft, it looks weaker than the vast majority of drafts in the last 10 years. I almost feel like because last year was so bad, that it made people think this year was better than it actually is. The strength of this draft is more depth in the lottery than high end talent, there doesn't seem to be that large of a gap in talent between 2 through 14 and it's more what teams like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 9th pick ends up being the 2nd best player in the draft.

It's pretty rare when hype actually is warranted, and I think it's actually getting worse because you have so many random online scouts trying to attract attention from desperate fanbases like ours. I'm still cringing at the No Ceilings clips peddled around here about Kobe Bufkin.

I'm sure there's going to be a decent number of really good players out of this draft and it does look better than last year's, but the last time a draft actually paid off it's hype was the LeBron draft.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Ace had like 3 great games and he's consensus top 5? Nah man, he's still had a weak season for a hyped prospect.

This draft in generally has just seemed way overhyped to me. It's kind of Cooper Flagg or bust for me. Looking at the Top 5 in this draft, it looks weaker than the vast majority of drafts in the last 10 years. I almost feel like because last year was so bad, that it made people think this year was better than it actually is. The strength of this draft is more depth in the lottery than high end talent, there doesn't seem to be that large of a gap in talent between 2 through 14 and it's more what teams like. It wouldn't surprise me at all if the 9th pick ends up being the 2nd best player in the draft.

It's pretty rare when hype actually is warranted, and I think it's actually getting worse because you have so many random online scouts trying to attract attention from desperate fanbases like ours. I'm still cringing at the No Ceilings clips peddled around here about Kobe Bufkin.

I'm sure there's going to be a decent number of really good players out of this draft and it does look better than last year's, but the last time a draft actually paid off it's hype was the LeBron draft.

Kobe Bufkin was a prime example of why you cannot buy into late season samples and determine they definitively mean player progression. Samples need to be interpreted as a whole and the larger the better. Same could be said about Yves Missi's FT shooting last year which peaked towards end and why I am trying to learn and now refuse to look at anything other than the whole. Isolating stretches of play to confirm biases is bad scouting.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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Yax > Fleming on archetype alone

[S.W.A.N]

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Yax > Fleming on archetype alone

looking at the numbers would suggest Fleming is the better prospect.
2 years young yet similar stats

Fleming looks like a legit 3 point threat versus Yax being the superior passer....

Curios as to what makes you feel archetype makes such difference.

Fleming projects as a 3 and D big. Which is a damn good thing to get.

[BoyzNTheHood]

This kid is so nice. 6’4” point guard from Drake. Transferred from d2 to d1.

19/4/6 with 2 steals per game
Over 70% at the rim
49/37/79 shooting splits
26.4 PER
.600 ts%
9.7 BPM
.400 FTR

Gets to the bucket and shoots a high percentage, shoots it well, runs the offense, plays defense. There isn’t much more you can expect from a player.

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[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

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Yax > Fleming on archetype alone

looking at the numbers would suggest Fleming is the better prospect.
2 years young yet similar stats

Fleming looks like a legit 3 point threat versus Yax being the superior passer....

Curios as to what makes you feel archetype makes such difference.

Fleming projects as a 3 and D big. Which is a damn good thing to get.

Yax just much more multidimensional with rapidly growing passing game and went from almost no dribble jumpers to a fair share of middies this year plus has superior touch markers.

His combination of newly found dribble J competency, solid handle for a big and very good passing is the baseline needed for higher USG and star outcomes at PF whether or not he materializes.

Granted he's older but if you look into his story his friends forced him to play basketball last year of HS and only started to take game seriously then. Lines up with strong growth demonstrated over 1 year period at UAB.

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Yax > Fleming on archetype alone

He looks like Obi Toppin. Is he going to be able to take minutes from Mogbo? Mogbo can guard 2-4.

Might have to draft Condon first as Florida will at least be a #2 seed in and should make a run and get lots of coverage. Fleming might had in the late teens but might be around where Bam Adebayo was drafted.

[BoyzNTheHood]

This kid is so nice. 6’4” point guard from Drake. Transferred from d2 to d1.

19/4/6 with 2 steals per game
Over 70% at the rim
49/37/79 shooting splits
26.4 PER
.600 ts%
9.7 BPM
.400 FTR

Gets to the bucket and shoots a high percentage, shoots it well, runs the offense, plays defense. There isn’t much more you can expect from a player.

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[aminiaturebuddha]

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Yax > Fleming on archetype alone

He looks like Obi Toppin. Is he going to be able to take minutes from Mogbo? Mogbo can guard 2-4.

Might have to draft Condon first as Florida will at least be a #2 seed in and should make a run and get lots of coverage. Fleming might had in the late teens but might be around where Bam Adebayo was drafted.

Side note: what is it with these highlight videos from Hoop Scout HQ where they pause for a second between each clip? I've noticed this while looking for clips of other players as well. It's really odd and annoying.

Then again, I guess I should just be grateful that people are putting in the effort to put together these clip packages at all. I understand how these Youtube videos work, and with that many subscribers, they're likely not getting paid. Still, something they should clean up.

[grant101]

This kid is so nice. 6’4” point guard from Drake. Transferred from d2 to d1.

19/4/6 with 2 steals per game
Over 70% at the rim
49/37/79 shooting splits
26.4 PER
.600 ts%
9.7 BPM
.400 FTR

Gets to the bucket and shoots a high percentage, shoots it well, runs the offense, plays defense. There isn’t much more you can expect from a player.

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Impressive. There’s some high level stuff here. Reminds me a little of Herro. Will be keeping track, thanks!

[BoyzNTheHood]

This kid is so nice. 6’4” point guard from Drake. Transferred from d2 to d1.

19/4/6 with 2 steals per game
Over 70% at the rim
49/37/79 shooting splits
26.4 PER
.600 ts%
9.7 BPM
.400 FTR

Gets to the bucket and shoots a high percentage, shoots it well, runs the offense, plays defense. There isn’t much more you can expect from a player.

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Impressive. There’s some high level stuff here. Reminds me a little of Herro. Will be keeping track, thanks!

I agree, I really like him and he’s still 21 but will be 22 in October.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I'll pass on Stirtz unless he measures with 6'9+ WS

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I'll pass on Stirtz unless he measures with 6'9+ WS

Agreed. He's in the Xavian Lee group. Can just get someone of that calibre as an UDFA. Get another PG/SG version of Battle.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I'll pass on Stirtz unless he measures with 6'9+ WS

Agreed. He's in the Xavian Lee group. Can just get someone of that calibre as an UDFA. Get another PG/SG version of Battle.

i think he's way better than lee. actually if he's at like 6'7 WS i might consider him high. i like him i just need him to not have +1 or +2 WS.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I'll pass on Stirtz unless he measures with 6'9+ WS

Agreed. He's in the Xavian Lee group. Can just get someone of that calibre as an UDFA. Get another PG/SG version of Battle.

Yeah man, guys like Battle and FVV are a dime a dozen. Just wait until the draft is over and sign all the best UDFA’s. Why even have a draft pick? They’re useless.

[grant101]

I'll pass on Stirtz unless he measures with 6'9+ WS

Agreed. He's in the Xavian Lee group. Can just get someone of that calibre as an UDFA. Get another PG/SG version of Battle.

i think he's way better than lee. actually if he's at like 6'7 WS i might consider him high. i like him i just need him to not have +1 or +2 WS.

He doesn't look like he has a plus WS, so I'd be surprised if he reached that. That said, I don't think it's going to be a huge factor for him. I'd be more concerned with whether he's able to be effective attacking close-outs and scoring against longer more athletic players. Defensively, I'd be curious to see if he can keep speedier/stronger guards from getting to the paint, or at least be able to string them out.

Huge grain of salt given I haven't seen him play outside of a few highlight clips, which are obviously cherry-picked, but they show a confidence on ball that I really like. Love having that latent ability in bench guards. I also I really value on ball threes, which I imagine are a big part of his shot diet, and which make the 3pt% impressive. Also love that he hits them moving both ways. The stats overall also look solid. Looking forward to see how he does in the tourney. Given how well Ty Jerome has been playing (very similar stats btw, even though Ty did it against better comp), I can see Bennett really climb boards with a good showing.

[Dalek]

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Neklis "Neo" Avdalis is 6'8 forward buried in the Greek League but hitting on 40% of his threes and shows some decent handling and passing at his size. He loves to dunk the ball too.

In European media, he has been considered the Greek Luka. He even has a tattoo in the same spot as Luka on his shooting arm. Now, I don't think he is at that level but I do see a forward in the same mold as Nikola Jovic or Jaime Jaquez. That seems like a good fit for Toronto. I always have a little hesitation on Greek players because they never want to leave their country, but he is young and seems like he has an NBA game.

[Psubs]

Agreed. He's in the Xavian Lee group. Can just get someone of that calibre as an UDFA. Get another PG/SG version of Battle.

i think he's way better than lee. actually if he's at like 6'7 WS i might consider him high. i like him i just need him to not have +1 or +2 WS.

He doesn't look like he has a plus WS, so I'd be surprised if he reached that. That said, I don't think it's going to be a huge factor for him. I'd be more concerned with whether he's able to be effective attacking close-outs and scoring against longer more athletic players. Defensively, I'd be curious to see if he can keep speedier/stronger guards from getting to the paint, or at least be able to string them out.

Huge grain of salt given I haven't seen him play outside of a few highlight clips, which are obviously cherry-picked, but they show a confidence on ball that I really like. Love having that latent ability in bench guards. I also I really value on ball threes, which I imagine are a big part of his shot diet, and which make the 3pt% impressive. Also love that he hits them moving both ways. The stats overall also look solid. Looking forward to see how he does in the tourney. Given how well Ty Jerome has been playing (very similar stats btw, even though Ty did it against better comp), I can see Bennett really climb boards with a good showing.

The better idea is to spend more than the tax-payer MLE to steal Ty Jerome from Cleveland. Use the full MLE. Would be an option after the consolidating trade for KD.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

i think he's way better than lee. actually if he's at like 6'7 WS i might consider him high. i like him i just need him to not have +1 or +2 WS.

He doesn't look like he has a plus WS, so I'd be surprised if he reached that. That said, I don't think it's going to be a huge factor for him. I'd be more concerned with whether he's able to be effective attacking close-outs and scoring against longer more athletic players. Defensively, I'd be curious to see if he can keep speedier/stronger guards from getting to the paint, or at least be able to string them out.

Huge grain of salt given I haven't seen him play outside of a few highlight clips, which are obviously cherry-picked, but they show a confidence on ball that I really like. Love having that latent ability in bench guards. I also I really value on ball threes, which I imagine are a big part of his shot diet, and which make the 3pt% impressive. Also love that he hits them moving both ways. The stats overall also look solid. Looking forward to see how he does in the tourney. Given how well Ty Jerome has been playing (very similar stats btw, even though Ty did it against better comp), I can see Bennett really climb boards with a good showing.

The better idea is to spend more than the tax-payer MLE to steal Ty Jerome from Cleveland. Use the full MLE. Would be an option after the consolidating trade for KD.

I told this board multiple times we need to get Ty Jerome 2 yrs ago instead of dishing out 25m/yr for GTJ like 80% of the fanbase wanted to do and I want my flowers for it. Steve Kerr loved Jerome, he knows a thing or two about guards (hence his infatuation with Podz too).