Official Scottie Barnes Thread

[vulture]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/raptors-moving-scottie-barnes-bench-could-raise-ceiling-195440018.html

I think it's all semantics. Our depth is still the same and we are already staggering the minutes to not let a full bench unit play and always have a couple core players on the court. Barnes really can't play backup PG either.

Yawn. If you’re benching Scottie for khem **** birch then you don’t know anything about basketball and I’m not going to read your article.

[Madhouse]

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com/news/raptors-moving-scottie-barnes-bench-could-raise-ceiling-195440018.html

I think it's all semantics. Our depth is still the same and we are already staggering the minutes to not let a full bench unit play and always have a couple core players on the court. Barnes really can't play backup PG either.

Yawn. If you’re benching Scottie for khem **** birch then you don’t know anything about basketball and I’m not going to read your article.

The problem will still be the same. The author is writing it such as he believes that Barnes comes for 15-20 per game off the bench and runs with an entire bench unit which isn't reality though. Regardless who starts or not, it really doesn't change anything. We will play 5 guys heavy minutes and our depth is still bad.

[WuTang_CMB]

Its
Mobleyand Barnes at the top. No question. Both players
Showing high end talent mixed in with their consistency all year. If barnes didnt have all the talent around him like say he was in detroit in cades spot, he’d be averagimg 20, 8 and 5… think about that.

[will]

Its
Mobleyand Barnes at the top. No question. Both players
Showing high end talent mixed in with their consistency all year. If barnes didnt have all the talent around him like say he was in detroit in cades spot, he’d be averagimg 20, 8 and 5… think about that.

Those two were David Thorpe's picks.

[youngRAPZ]

I think if we string together some wins Scottie can maintain his place. We already know if he is on a bad team(or injured team) he puts up top5 stats in all categories.

In his first game back he still scored 13 with 4rebs and that was coming off COVID and knee tendinitis. Once this lineup is 5 games in and he settles in I don’t think his stats will drop at all and tbh I think that will elevate him to maybe passing Mobley.

I don’t see him falling pass 3rd in voting and definitely won’t finish off the first team.


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[grimlock]

To unlock Barnes, GTJ or Siakam need to go.. it doesn’t have to be this year.. but it will have to happen eventually.

[WuTang_CMB]

Its
Mobleyand Barnes at the top. No question. Both players
Showing high end talent mixed in with their consistency all year. If barnes didnt have all the talent around him like say he was in detroit in cades spot, he’d be averagimg 20, 8 and 5… think about that.

Those two were David Thorpe's picks.

Fk i had mobley for 5 months pre draft. Just looked way ahead of the curve. No idea on scottie and how good he became so fast.

[WuTang_CMB]

https://www.instagram.com/joshua.diamante/p/CXH33dkMP-o/?utm_medium=copy_link

[God Squad]

I think Scottie is going to drop out of the top 3 ROTY conversation due to everyone being healthy again.

It’ll be fun to see how he gets his opportunities as the 4/5th option, would like to see him embrace being even more of a Swiss knife off the ball.

Then I have no reason to watch TBH. Scottie is the one giving me joy for this season. I really could care less for the play-in, but I also don't care too much for this draft class either.

[mdenny]

Its
Mobleyand Barnes at the top. No question. Both players
Showing high end talent mixed in with their consistency all year. If barnes didnt have all the talent around him like say he was in detroit in cades spot, he’d be averagimg 20, 8 and 5… think about that.

Those two were David Thorpe's picks.

Fk i had mobley for 5 months pre draft. Just looked way ahead of the curve. No idea on scottie and how good he became so fast.

David Thorpe is the man. His podcast appearances are gold.

I reached out to him on twitter and told him about how i decided to teach myself how to shoot last year. Started out 35% from the line lol. Now i'm a solid 80 and i'm hovering between 50 and 60% from 3 on 200 shots per day. My goal is to hit 70 consistently by end of next summer. David thought it was awesome i'd do this in late 40s and told me he'd help me out with technique on a video call after i give him a video of my shooting.

[OakleyDokely]

TS%, top 10 picks:

Cunningham: .490
Green: .532
Mobley: .556
Barnes: .555
Suggs: .444
Giddey: .447
Kuminga: .559
Wagner: .546
Mitchell: .480
Williams: .443

[will]

Those two were David Thorpe's picks.

Fk i had mobley for 5 months pre draft. Just looked way ahead of the curve. No idea on scottie and how good he became so fast.

David Thorpe is the man. His podcast appearances are gold.

I reached out to him on twitter and told him about how i decided to teach myself how to shoot last year. Started out 35% from the line lol. Now i'm a solid 80 and i'm hovering between 50 and 60% from 3 on 200 shots per day. My goal is to hit 70 consistently by end of next summer. David thought it was awesome i'd do this in late 40s and told me he'd help me out with technique on a video call after i give him a video of my shooting.

David Thorpe is a real one!

[hype_2004]

Giddey has a 45% TS, he flat out cannot score the ball

Can stuff the stat sheet and OKC taking him at 6 was smart but I don't think he can displace Barnes off 1st team Rookie

Mobley
Barnes
Cade
Wagner
Giddey

In fact, the question is more so Giddey vs Green for the 5th spot at this moment

All about the stats, this kid plays absolutely no defense, can't cover anyone to save his life. He sometimes float like Westbrook looking for easy rebounds often leaving his man to gamble. He probably watches Russell imitating his play thinking this will get him superstar status, no on is holding him accountable right now.

[Tha Cynic]

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Scottie has been worse on defense than josh giddey?

Can’t make that deduction from this chart, Scottie guards the best player on opposing team on a nightly basis — that is not accounted for in this.

That plus Barnes did look lost on defense to start the season. Eye test says he has greatly improved in the last month or two.

[Madhouse]

I think Scottie is going to drop out of the top 3 ROTY conversation due to everyone being healthy again.

It’ll be fun to see how he gets his opportunities as the 4/5th option, would like to see him embrace being even more of a Swiss knife off the ball.

Then I have no reason to watch TBH. Scottie is the one giving me joy for this season. I really could care less for the play-in, but I also don't care too much for this draft class either.

I mean it is what it is.

Play-in, 40 wins, Barnes dropping out of the rookie of the year race because he is the 5th option on the Raptors is very realistic.

[Tha Cynic]

I think Scottie is going to drop out of the top 3 ROTY conversation due to everyone being healthy again.

It’ll be fun to see how he gets his opportunities as the 4/5th option, would like to see him embrace being even more of a Swiss knife off the ball.

You may be right. There are teams that get more exposure and some other rookies are starting to get more comfortable scoring efficiently in the NBA while getting more opportunities to score.

But, I could care less. I think both Barnes and Mobley who aren't as featured in their teams' offense have shown they impact winning. They're also two players where no expectation in their career is too high imo. I love the way Barnes is being developed to literally be good at every aspect of basketball right from the start and he's responding.

Barnes and Mobley if they can stay healthy are going to be very special.

[DG88]

What I found good to see is Nurse putting Scottie at PG once Fred goes to the bench. He's done it for a few games now and it really keeps the offense running smoothly. I want to see Scottie getting more of those reps.

It's difficult to explain to me but I don't think he really will ever be able to play PG or run an offense.

I don't it's him being a full time PG, but similar to Siakam as someone who can initiate the offense from time to time in PnR. Best to get him the reps now to learn and grow from it. Right now he's great with handling the ball in transition and finding players, next step is to take that passing ability and his bball processing and expand it in the halfcourt.

[vulture]

This might be a controversial take around here and I was a big proponent of drafting Barnes during draft time, but I just don't see him as a number 1 option on a championship team.
My stance was always that his highest outcome being a really good number 2 on a championship which is an extremely valuable player. His offensive improvement has been impressive and he's improving at crazy rate in shooting and defensive awareness. The flashes are just crazy that it gives us a sense he might get there. We just have to be really careful with the rhetoric because it's easy to turn on a player when he doesn't quite live up to the expectations that people have created for them.

[OakleyDokely]

This might be a controversial take around here and I was a big proponent of drafting Barnes during draft time, but I just don't see him as a number 1 option on a championship team.
My stance was always that his highest outcome being a really good number 2 on a championship which is an extremely valuable player. His offensive improvement has been impressive and he's improving at crazy rate in shooting and defensive awareness. The flashes are just crazy that it gives us a sense he might get there. We just have to be really careful with the rhetoric because it's easy to turn on a player when he doesn't quite live up to the expectations that people have created for them.

This isn't a crazy take at all.

There are what, maybe 7 or 8 guys in the entire league who you can win a title with as your #1 option? These guys are extremely rare. Even high level players like AD, PG aren't legit #1 guys.

[canada_dry]

My bad, I guess he was good the 1st 3 years when he couldn't shoot at all, then his offense got better and his defense leveled off. I guess I don't recall him much during those early years when he seemed like a bust.

Oh he still has been tho. Including this year.

Thats the fear with a 2nd knee injury with him. His offense doesn't rely on athleticism, but his defense might fall off now when he returns.

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Yeah, his calling card was passing and defense coming from Spain. His shooting was awful.

The shooting and especially FT% has improved...the defensive abilities have dropped off. Probably due to playing pro hoops since he was 14 or 15 years of age.

Might bave dropped.off a bit but still good and solid. This year moreso than last..last year he was just unhappy in Minnesota and playing trash. Who knew going to Cleveland of all places would bring his joy back.

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