2021-22 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread

[Psubs]

Honestly the Turner injury might be a blessing in disguise. He's fools gold. Soft big who just takes jumpers and hunts for blocks. He's not a game changing 5 on either side of the ball.

What would be an acceptable but realistic trade for you with that package ?

Dragic and 1st pick for:

Bogdanovic and 2nd pick
Fournier and 2nd pick

[dukes_wild]

Honestly the Turner injury might be a blessing in disguise. He's fools gold. Soft big who just takes jumpers and hunts for blocks. He's not a game changing 5 on either side of the ball.

What would be an acceptable but realistic trade for you with that package ?

I'm not sure there are any available needle moving 5s that could be acquired with a Dragic+1st package. It's challenging because if we add a typical non shooting 5, our spacing might suffer even more.

I still think the best path is acquiring a couple solid bench wings who can give us a boost off the bench and play 25-30+ minutes in the event guys like Scottie struggle heavily in the playoffs. Justin Holiday comes to mind

Trading that Dragic expiring would be nice though. Benefits us a lot more to trade it than let it expire considering our cap situation I think.

I don't envy Masai or Bobby right now. They have a really tough deadline coming up, no easy answers

[dukes_wild]

Honestly the Turner injury might be a blessing in disguise. He's fools gold. Soft big who just takes jumpers and hunts for blocks. He's not a game changing 5 on either side of the ball.

What would be an acceptable but realistic trade for you with that package ?

Dragic and 1st pick for:

Bogdanovic and 2nd pick
Fournier and 2nd pick

I would maybe do that for Bogdan, but ideally I'd want something better coming back for a big expiring and a FRP that is likely to be late teens than Bogdan.

Hell no to Fournier. I'd love a guard with his skillset on our bench but his contract is pretty terrible

[Raptorfan2012]

I would still do Dragic for Turner if that is all it takes. Its not like we are missing Dragic's contributions off the bench anyways, and Turner should be back sometime in February.

[Saul Goodman]

I wonder if Phoenix would do Boucher for Jalen Smith. Maybe that could be this years version of a norm Trent trade on a smaller scale?

[Madhouse]

The timelord doesn't provide spacing and won't be available for us without giving up a core piece because Boston wants to compete.

If you are backing off from Turner, I really don't see an option.

[alpngso]

Read on Twitter

Naz Reid a good option as a big maybe? can hit 3s, good offensively not much of defender

he made Team USA Select team before as well

[PhilBlackson]

I would still do Dragic for Turner if that is all it takes. Its not like we are missing Dragic's contributions off the bench anyways, and Turner should be back sometime in February.

Would hate this move for RW.

Williams is pretty much nothing more than a rim runner who will have little to no impact come Playoff time. If we're gonna use our FRP, Turner should be the minimum goal in mind. Don't wanna see it squandered just to add a rotation player like Williams or Poeltl.

At least with Myles it's not only some added rim protection, we'd also get a guy who can have some good scoring nights and space the floor which is an absolute necessity with Pascal, OG and especially Scottie as he continues to improve his shooting, he does a lot of damage in & around the post.

I'm very so-so on the idea of trading a FRP for guys with occasional flashes like Bamba, Jalen Smith or maybe Oneyka but I'd easily take/target them before I do Williams. Really I'd be trying to dig up younger players who might have a higher ceiling long term (not saying these teams would trade them) but I'd be trying to snag someone like Hunter, Haliburton, Simons, Kuminga (very unlikely but they need to pay Poole if they want to keep him) -- I just like to see us add someone who might have a star potential longer term since we can't be high enough in the draft, try to see if a big expiring + FRP can pry away someone on a cash pinched team.

If not I know I'd feel torn about it but maybe even just float out to see what OG + 1st might net, maybe SGA, Ingram, Fox...I know a lot of people will shut it down being arguably our best all around defender, I know & understand how valuable that is but come Playoff time even more important than a good defence (which we'd still have), is having star power and guys that can get you buckets. I'm not trusting Pascal to be that guy, Fred can make big outside shots but teams tighten up/shrink the court on what his tiny frame can do, Gary can also shoot but his handles aren't there yet where he consistently get himself clean looks. But add another guy who can get a bucket, teams will be forced to collapse from either Siakam and whatever young scorer or they can pitch out all day to Fred & Gary or find Scottie on the blocks (or worst case pitch out as well). But that's just my feeling about it.

But for me the goal of the FRP shouldn't be to just get another rotation player. At minimum it should be a very high impact player that has the potential to push someone out of the starting lineup whether that's a more established name like Turner, adding it to OG or GT Jr to find another young star or on it's own with Goran to pry away a younger player who may become one like Hunter, Hali etc and at worst dealt on it's own for guys with upside to be something like Turner in Bamba, Smith, Oneyka...but again not just a rotation guy like Williams, Poeltl etc, that's not changing the fate of the team long or short term.

[anotherhomer]

I just don't see a deal to be had....
Myles turner made sense bEforr the injury

[Morris_Shatford]

We seem to be targeting a lot of higher end, higher cost guys at the five.
I am not sure we necessary need a guy who can play 30mpg but really someone who can play 15-20 and more in a situational setting.

If we can break Dragic into a functional center and some bench shooting I would be over the moon.

[NirvanaFC]

Honestly the Turner injury might be a blessing in disguise. He's fools gold. Soft big who just takes jumpers and hunts for blocks. He's not a game changing 5 on either side of the ball.

What would be an acceptable but realistic trade for you with that package ?

I'm not sure there are any available needle moving 5s that could be acquired with a Dragic+1st package. It's challenging because if we add a typical non shooting 5, our spacing might suffer even more.

I still think the best path is acquiring a couple solid bench wings who can give us a boost off the bench and play 25-30+ minutes in the event guys like Scottie struggle heavily in the playoffs. Justin Holiday comes to mind

Trading that Dragic expiring would be nice though. Benefits us a lot more to trade it than let it expire considering our cap situation I think.

I don't envy Masai or Bobby right now. They have a really tough deadline coming up, no easy answers

Can Justin Holiday even play for us? He's unvaccinated.

Would love to have Bogey. I could watch the guy shoot all day.

[douggood]

We seem to be targeting a lot of higher end, higher cost guys at the five.
I am not sure we necessary need a guy who can play 30mpg but really someone who can play 15-20 and more situational setting.

If we can break Dragic into a functional center and some bench shooting I would be over the moon.

i dont get the interest in Myles turner/sobonis either(among other starting C candidates). it must be reporters see having a semi need at center and just assuming.

unless its a major move a core player is being moved out, which C would be part of our closing lineup?
what we need is a healthy Birch + a big 3rd string C. between birch/achiuwa/barnes/siakam/OG(Boucher maybe not longterm) they can mange to play 48 min there, as we have so far.
what we need is a sg/sf combo guard.

[InfraRedshaw]

One thing that I am not sure adds up with all this talk about adding a 5, who do we (realistically) move to the bench? Our core 5 is so hot right now, and the price we'd be paying for a 5 doesn't make sense for him to come off the bench, does it?

[causal_fan]

Since this is a developmental season, I'd love to acquire Omer Yurtseven from the Heat and give him a good run.

[arbsn]

I think Dinwiddie is a really smart pickup. We need Fred insurance and more ball handling off the bench

[positivetension]

Poeltl makes a lot of sense for this roster. Low usage and great defender. SA doesn't seem very competitive this year so I wouldn't be surprised if he's available.

[Zeno]

I was listening to the Duncd on podcasts mock trade deadline and they had trades that basically added up to Dragic, protected 1st, 2023 2nd for Wood and Schroeder. Not sure I dig it because I think Wood’s attitude might not fit but it works in theory.

[MikeM]

Achiuwa is the answer at C if he can hit corner 3s.

[Bruin]

Hopefully Goran and Boucher are off this team in 8 days

[Morris_Shatford]

Achiuwa is the answer at C if he can hit corner 3s.

The 3PT% thing is a nice bonus, but its inside the paint that really really needs to improve.
His 2PT% have dropped by nearly 10% year over year.

If he can finish better in the paint on offense and develop a semi reliable 3PT shot that would require him to command coverage on the line I would be over the moon.