2023 Draft Prospect discussion

[Kevin Willis]

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- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

SOLD! Before transferring to Montverde for his senior season, Scottie played with freshman Taylor Hendricks and Jett Howard.

Trade Thaddeus or Boucher for guard help.

[Rapsfan07]

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

Good work. He has been warming on me lately but I didn't know he had a past with Barnes and Howard. I will be paying a lot more attention to him going forward.

[BoyzNTheHood]

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

I'm glad people are finally warming up to my guy Taylor is the prototype for a player we would choose. I would seriously contemplate selling high on OG if we could grab another pick to get another shooter like Jett, Gradey, or Sensabaugh alongside Hendricks.

[Rapsfan07]

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

I'm glad people are finally warming up to my guy Taylor is the prototype for a player we would choose. I would seriously contemplate selling high on OG if we could grab another pick to get another shooter like Jett, Gradey, or Sensabaugh alongside Hendricks.

He's not nearly as smooth as Ingram and his handle looks a little suspect.

If I'm looking for a wing, I think I'm still taking Lewis over him but he's definitely moving up my board.

[Mark_83]

Was agreeing with this post, then nearly fell out of my chair reading the last part! Scottie for Scoot, absolutely. Scoot has the earmarks of is a bonafide superstar. For the other two, not even close for me (and I say this as a huge Jarace fan). Do you really see Jarace and Miller as primary options?

Keep in mind that was a conditional statement. If X then Y. I would rather the team move Pascal and put Scottie at the 4, where his lack of shooting would be muted.

If the team is going to build the roster around Pascal and assuming we keep Yak then we need shooters.

Also keep in mind nobody wanted us to pick Scottie. Few people had him ranked in their top 5 that year. I was one of the handful of people who wanted him at our pick and thought he would be a good player. Scoot is actually the guy out of that group I'd be most hesitant to move him for (but I'm the low guy on Scoot). Not that I don't think he'll be a good player or put up numbers, but we've seen this archetype before, and teams with players like that as their centerpiece have a ceiling. Miller and Walker are different types of players from Scottie, but imo they're every bit as talented as Scottie was in his draft year.

Not saying its the same situation, but I remember the year I was saying we should trade Jonas (who was highly regarded at the time) for one of the top picks in the draft to take Embiid. People were lambasting me, and calling me an idiot. But Embiid looked special and in retrospect I would have been right. Let me see if I can find that thread for receipts.

Again, not saying either of those players are going to eclipse Scottie like Embiid did Jonas, but in my opinion they can be at least as good and have a better skillset fit with our roster.

Do I see Miller or Jarace as primary options? Miller, yes. Jarace, not really. But Scottie is not a primary option either. Especially with Pascal around, which causes him to defer and be passive early in games.

I guess my problem is I don't really get attached to players. Even ones I pushed and wanted us to draft initially.

Can't say I agree (Scottie processes the game at a completely different level than those two, and has the tools to get there), but I respect the strong opinion and calling your shot like that. I'll be keeping track. Who knows, perhaps you're a visionary lol!

Also, I would not have been one upset with moving JV for Embiid. Was never the biggest JV fan, and Embiid was clearly the best player that year IMO. Can't imagine Philly would have ever considered that. I was dumbfounded when the Bucks took Parker, even with Embiid's injury.

By no means was this even a consensus about Barnes entering the draft. No one saw him as a primary option type. Most people saw him as a complimentary player, like a Draymond. Tbf I also saw similarities to Draymond, only in the sense that he could be a point-center.

But look at tonight, another game another night of Scottie deferring to Pascal the entire first half (he has only 2 shots). Obviously it's going well as Pascal's shot is actually falling tonight, but even when Pascal isn't shooting well Scottie defers passively to him. I don't necessarily think Scottie is passive. But he needs the ball in his hands to provide value. He's not an off-the-ball player.

[grant101]

Keep in mind that was a conditional statement. If X then Y. I would rather the team move Pascal and put Scottie at the 4, where his lack of shooting would be muted.

If the team is going to build the roster around Pascal and assuming we keep Yak then we need shooters.

Also keep in mind nobody wanted us to pick Scottie. Few people had him ranked in their top 5 that year. I was one of the handful of people who wanted him at our pick and thought he would be a good player. Scoot is actually the guy out of that group I'd be most hesitant to move him for (but I'm the low guy on Scoot). Not that I don't think he'll be a good player or put up numbers, but we've seen this archetype before, and teams with players like that as their centerpiece have a ceiling. Miller and Walker are different types of players from Scottie, but imo they're every bit as talented as Scottie was in his draft year.

Not saying its the same situation, but I remember the year I was saying we should trade Jonas (who was highly regarded at the time) for one of the top picks in the draft to take Embiid. People were lambasting me, and calling me an idiot. But Embiid looked special and in retrospect I would have been right. Let me see if I can find that thread for receipts.

Again, not saying either of those players are going to eclipse Scottie like Embiid did Jonas, but in my opinion they can be at least as good and have a better skillset fit with our roster.

Do I see Miller or Jarace as primary options? Miller, yes. Jarace, not really. But Scottie is not a primary option either. Especially with Pascal around, which causes him to defer and be passive early in games.

I guess my problem is I don't really get attached to players. Even ones I pushed and wanted us to draft initially.

Can't say I agree (Scottie processes the game at a completely different level than those two, and has the tools to get there), but I respect the strong opinion and calling your shot like that. I'll be keeping track. Who knows, perhaps you're a visionary lol!

Also, I would not have been one upset with moving JV for Embiid. Was never the biggest JV fan, and Embiid was clearly the best player that year IMO. Can't imagine Philly would have ever considered that. I was dumbfounded when the Bucks took Parker, even with Embiid's injury.

By no means was this even a consensus about Barnes entering the draft. No one saw him as a primary option type. Most people saw him as a complimentary player, like a Draymond. Tbf I also saw similarities to Draymond, only in the sense that he could be a point-center.

But look at tonight, another game another night of Scottie deferring to Pascal the entire first half (he has only 2 shots). Obviously it's going well as Pascal's shot is actually falling tonight, but even when Pascal isn't shooting well Scottie defers passively to him. I don't necessarily think Scottie is passive. But he needs the ball in his hands to provide value. He's not an off-the-ball player.

Yep. I was fully in board with selecting Suggs. I saw the anticipation with Scottie at FSU on defense, but wasn't convinced he had much of a scoring package. He was even more passive on offense in college. I see the flashes on offense now and am willing to buy into him becoming more assertive as he matures and improves his jumper. When he's plugged in, he's a force in a way I don't see Miller or Jarace ever reaching. Unstoppable. That said, I completely understand the frustration with his passivity and deference

I really like Jarace as a complementary player, with underrated onball upside. A safe two-way pro. I'm a lot less sold on Miller. He's got a nice shot and nifty ballhandling, but he can't get to the rim and I don't buy him ever being more than a meh defender.

[Kevin Willis]

Can't say I agree (Scottie processes the game at a completely different level than those two, and has the tools to get there), but I respect the strong opinion and calling your shot like that. I'll be keeping track. Who knows, perhaps you're a visionary lol!

Also, I would not have been one upset with moving JV for Embiid. Was never the biggest JV fan, and Embiid was clearly the best player that year IMO. Can't imagine Philly would have ever considered that. I was dumbfounded when the Bucks took Parker, even with Embiid's injury.

By no means was this even a consensus about Barnes entering the draft. No one saw him as a primary option type. Most people saw him as a complimentary player, like a Draymond. Tbf I also saw similarities to Draymond, only in the sense that he could be a point-center.

But look at tonight, another game another night of Scottie deferring to Pascal the entire first half (he has only 2 shots). Obviously it's going well as Pascal's shot is actually falling tonight, but even when Pascal isn't shooting well Scottie defers passively to him. I don't necessarily think Scottie is passive. But he needs the ball in his hands to provide value. He's not an off-the-ball player.

Yep. I was fully in board with selecting Suggs. I saw the anticipation with Scottie at FSU on defense, but wasn't convinced he had much of a scoring package. He was even more passive on offense in college. I see the flashes on offense now and am willing to buy into him becoming more assertive as he matures and improves his jumper. When he's plugged in, he's a force in a way I don't see Miller or Jarace ever reaching. Unstoppable. That said, I completely understand the frustration with his passivity and deference

I really like Jarace as a complementary player, with underrated onball upside. A safe two-way pro. I'm a lot less sold on Miller. He's got a nice shot and nifty ballhandling, but he can't get to the rim and I don't buy him ever being more than a meh defender.

I sort of see what you're saying, but I think we need to expect this from Scottie - sort of like Draymond. Some nights Draymond goes 7/7/7 and it's hard to believe he was an all-star. Other nights he does a triple double with ease. Draymond constantly defers also. I think Barnes will be better than Draymond overtime, which is a damn good player, but he will never lead his team in scoring or anything.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Can't say I agree (Scottie processes the game at a completely different level than those two, and has the tools to get there), but I respect the strong opinion and calling your shot like that. I'll be keeping track. Who knows, perhaps you're a visionary lol!

Also, I would not have been one upset with moving JV for Embiid. Was never the biggest JV fan, and Embiid was clearly the best player that year IMO. Can't imagine Philly would have ever considered that. I was dumbfounded when the Bucks took Parker, even with Embiid's injury.

By no means was this even a consensus about Barnes entering the draft. No one saw him as a primary option type. Most people saw him as a complimentary player, like a Draymond. Tbf I also saw similarities to Draymond, only in the sense that he could be a point-center.

But look at tonight, another game another night of Scottie deferring to Pascal the entire first half (he has only 2 shots). Obviously it's going well as Pascal's shot is actually falling tonight, but even when Pascal isn't shooting well Scottie defers passively to him. I don't necessarily think Scottie is passive. But he needs the ball in his hands to provide value. He's not an off-the-ball player.

Yep. I was fully in board with selecting Suggs. I saw the anticipation with Scottie at FSU on defense, but wasn't convinced he had much of a scoring package. He was even more passive on offense in college. I see the flashes on offense now and am willing to buy into him becoming more assertive as he matures and improves his jumper. When he's plugged in, he's a force in a way I don't see Miller or Jarace ever reaching. Unstoppable. That said, I completely understand the frustration with his passivity and deference

I really like Jarace as a complementary player, with underrated onball upside. A safe two-way pro. I'm a lot less sold on Miller. He's got a nice shot and nifty ballhandling, but he can't get to the rim and I don't buy him ever being more than a meh defender.

I am warming up to Jarace as a #2 sort of guy. He's shown me so much more than I thought he had in his bag. For example, a floater. Those are tough to defend when it's a 6'0" guard, but imagine a 6'8"-6'9" guy shooting it. Plus, he's already a solid long distance shooter. So, as a 19 year old, there's tons of room for him to grow into an absolute beast.

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[Mark_83]

We're going to win enough to make the playoffs or close to it with Jak. We need to start looking at guys in the 12-16 range. On Tankathon that's currently Jett Howard, Anthony Black, Brice Sensabaugh, Dariq Whitehead, and Kyle Filipowski.

I wouldn't mind taking Jett Howard one bit. Do a sign and trade with Fred for a guy like Cole Anthony or Jalen Suggs, then start Scottie at the point with Jett beside him. That's a backcourt with two 6'8" guys. Let OG run at the 3, Pascal at the 4, and Jak at the 5. With Precious and GTJ off the bench. Just solidify the bench with a couple of guys and you're back in the 3-4 seed conversation.

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Vecenie has it:
12 - George
13 - Dick
14 - Sensabaugh
15 - GG Jackson
16 - Howard
17 - Rupert
18 - Murray
19 - Lewis
20 - Hendricks

Lots of shooters in that group.

I really hope Black goes right before Dick so I can watch the analysts try to hold it together on live TV. If only there were a lottery prospect named Big.

[Ell Curry]

I sort of see what you're saying, but I think we need to expect this from Scottie - sort of like Draymond. Some nights Draymond goes 7/7/7 and it's hard to believe he was an all-star. Other nights he does a triple double with ease. Draymond constantly defers also. I think Barnes will be better than Draymond overtime, which is a damn good player, but he will never lead his team in scoring or anything.

I'm surprised that more writers weren't going with a take of "The Raptors need to trade Siakam because Barnes will thrive as a 4."

It's easy to imagine Barnes thriving with 3 shooters and a center around him, though F. VanVleet - O. Anunoby - G. Trent Jr. - S. Barnes - C. Koloko was -8 in 54 minutes, so we might just be plain bad without Siakam. But in theory, Barnes would optimally be the 2nd worst shooter on the floor and a pretty pure 4 in 2022-23 NBA.

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

I'm glad people are finally warming up to my guy Taylor is the prototype for a player we would choose. I would seriously contemplate selling high on OG if we could grab another pick to get another shooter like Jett, Gradey, or Sensabaugh alongside Hendricks.

He's not nearly as smooth as Ingram and his handle looks a little suspect.

If I'm looking for a wing, I think I'm still taking Lewis over him but he's definitely moving up my board.

He's shot no so well lately and brought his numbers back to reality. He's shooting 36.3% from 3 now and that's exactly what he shot last season. He seems to be hitting better 2's this year and his A/T is better and approaching 1. Maybe he'll be like Terrence Ross?

I'd rather use part of the MLE on Ross. 5-7-7-7

[Rapsfan07]

I sort of see what you're saying, but I think we need to expect this from Scottie - sort of like Draymond. Some nights Draymond goes 7/7/7 and it's hard to believe he was an all-star. Other nights he does a triple double with ease. Draymond constantly defers also. I think Barnes will be better than Draymond overtime, which is a damn good player, but he will never lead his team in scoring or anything.

I'm surprised that more writers weren't going with a take of "The Raptors need to trade Siakam because Barnes will thrive as a 4."

It's easy to imagine Barnes thriving with 3 shooters and a center around him, though F. VanVleet - O. Anunoby - G. Trent Jr. - S. Barnes - C. Koloko was -8 in 54 minutes, so we might just be plain bad without Siakam. But in theory, Barnes would optimally be the 2nd worst shooter on the floor and a pretty pure 4 in 2022-23 NBA.

Absolutely. I think Barnes is a lot more similar to Siakam than people think or want to admit. Definitely seems like a natural 4 to me.

Love Siakam and I'm going to feel the pain when we move him, just like I felt when DeRozan was moved. But ultimately, it needs to be done. Especially if the plan is to move forward with Barnes.

[Thaddy]

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Note:

- Taylor Hendricks has a shorter twin
- Taylor Hendricks was a teammate of Scottie Barnes and are good friends
- Taylor Hendricks is a wing player that can guard 2-3 positions
- Taylor Hendricks played two strong games against Jarace Walker
- Taylor Hendricks is 19
- Taylor Hendricks is very close stats wise to Brandon Ingram in college
- Taylor Hendricks is an outgoing, friendly, devout Christian who has a lot of fun playing the game
- If you compare him statistically with other SFs - everyone is below Brandon Miller and above Dariq Whitehead but he is right there with Dick. https://www.tankathon.com/players/compare?players=gradey-dick--taylor-hendricks--brandon-miller--brice-sensabaugh--dariq-whitehead

Hendricks has the lateral quickness to guard on the perimeter, not sure if he could be matched up against a quick guard like Sexton though but he would be a safe pick if we want a rotation player that could be something more. I see him as a high level rotation player but not a core player. He has no self creation skills and won't be a lead player on offense for a good team. I see him as a bigger Danny Green with better playmaking out of the post.

[Rapsfan07]

I'm glad people are finally warming up to my guy Taylor is the prototype for a player we would choose. I would seriously contemplate selling high on OG if we could grab another pick to get another shooter like Jett, Gradey, or Sensabaugh alongside Hendricks.

He's not nearly as smooth as Ingram and his handle looks a little suspect.

If I'm looking for a wing, I think I'm still taking Lewis over him but he's definitely moving up my board.

He's shot no so well lately and brought his numbers back to reality. He's shooting 36.3% from 3 now and that's exactly what he shot last season. He seems to be hitting better 2's this year and his A/T is better and approaching 1. Maybe he'll be like Terrence Ross?

I'd rather use part of the MLE on Ross. 5-7-7-7

Well we'll see. We know what Ross is and we don't yet know what Hendricks is or could be. Even if he does turn out to be a Ross type prospect, still rather have Hendricks who's younger, cheaper, under control for longer and could be more than Ross.

If he's the best pick when we're on the board, I'd take him. At this moment though, there are a few guys I'd probably look at a bit harder.

It's early though and a lot could change between now and then.

[Kevin Willis]

Thought - is there a Tre Mann type player in this draft? Scorer, decent shooting percentage that can play defense and is the right height and could be our role player? Ricky Council? Colby Jones? Something like that for our second round pick? First round we should do better.

[ItsDanger]

Thought - is there a Tre Mann type player in this draft? Scorer, decent shooting percentage that can play defense and is the right height and could be our role player? Ricky Council? Colby Jones? Something like that for our second round pick? First round we should do better.

There are some good options in the 31-40 range. But we gave up our 2nd round pick. Maybe we can buy one in 40s or trade but Raps haven't done this in the past. A huge mistake in my opinion.

[Psubs]

Thought - is there a Tre Mann type player in this draft? Scorer, decent shooting percentage that can play defense and is the right height and could be our role player? Ricky Council? Colby Jones? Something like that for our second round pick? First round we should do better.

Spurs got our 2nd pick in the Poeltl trade.

Just draft Cason Wallace with the 1st pick.

Might have to look at undrafted's for a gem.

https://www.tankathon.com/big_board

https://www.tankathon.com/players/tyrese-proctor

Tyrese Proctor is still 18 until April and probably should go back to Duke, but maybe he decides to enter the draft and if not, go play in the NBL? He has been shooting better lately but the FT% is good.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/souley-boum-1.html

He's a 5 year senior and just turned... 24. Maybe a decent replacement if Flynn gets included in a trade in the summer?

[ItsDanger]

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[Brinbe]

wallace playing right now