Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 5

[Mack11]

Scotties shot is looking nice but im not really putting too much stock in IG offseason training video till i see it actually translating into gametime success.. ive seen too many of those to actually get hyped

[HiJiNX]

I had issues with Reggie Millers form lol

I agree though. Nothing to get excited about until he delivers in games. I have faith though.

As an aside does he look leaner to anyone else?

Def looks leaner.

Yeah, I felt he was too bulky to be what he wants to be. He doesn't need to be built like OG of he's going to play like a guard and hopefully it helps with his stamina too.

Agreed. I thought that bulking up last year was not the best decision for how he wants to play. It looked like it impacted his agility with respect to footwork and quickness in the paint. But I wonder if what we are seeing is just a result of lower body fat rather than less muscular bulk since his face looks a little more gaunt as well.

[ArthurVandelay]

I had issues with Reggie Millers form lol

I agree though. Nothing to get excited about until he delivers in games. I have faith though.

As an aside does he look leaner to anyone else?

Def looks leaner.

Yeah, I felt he was too bulky to be what he wants to be. He doesn't need to be built like OG of he's going to play like a guard and hopefully it helps with his stamina too.

I don’t believe Nurse ever bought into him being a PG. He made the quip one time about his IG bio and being a PG.

From the sounds of things, Darko is fully on board for point Scottie so we will have to see what he does with the opportunity. I’m rooting for him.

[HiJiNX]

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Average passer.

[Los_29]

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Average passer.

I don’t think anyone said he’s an average passer. He’s just not an elite one (yet) which most would agree. And one clip doesn’t change that. lol.

I’m really excited to see what kind of role Darko has for Scottie this year. This is a huge year for Scottie.

[CanadaB-Ball]

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Average passer.

I don’t think anyone said he’s an average passer. He’s just not an elite one (yet) which most would agree. And one clip doesn’t change that. lol.

I’m really excited to see what kind of role Darko has for Scottie this year. This is a huge year for Scottie.

He absolutely is an elite passer.

He’s not an elite playmaker (lacks the necessary advantage creation), but he’s one of the best passers in the association.

[Jcity08]

Barnes most elite skill was his passing, it was his rookie season he showed his scoring/offense wasn't as raw as people thought it would. His low post and elbow/short mid range game was what awesome to see translated into the NBA. He could really bang down low/in traffic when he wanted.

His defense when he locks in, he got guys like Harden and PG singing his praises. He just needs to round it out, at times last season the intensity that we're used to isnt there and missing assignments...

What he doesnt have really is a clean outside game but honestly he really doesn't need it IMO, he should master what he's already good at and let guys like Dick & OG deal with that.

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[canada_dry]

Barnes most elite skill was his passing, it was his rookie season he showed his scoring/offense wasn't as raw as people thought it would. His low post and elbow/short mid range game was what awesome to see translated into the NBA. He could really bang down low/in traffic when he wanted.

His defense when he locks in, he got guys like Harden and PG singing his praises. He just needs to round it out, at times last season the intensity that we're used to isnt there and missing assignments...

What he doesnt have really is a clean outside game but honestly he really doesn't need it IMO, he should master what he's already good at and let guys like Dick & OG deal with that.

I agree with mastering what hes good at. I still wanna see that 3 point % creep up into the low 30s though. An improved mid range game...

But I really want to see him take the biggest leap in his game on defense...with poetl there scottie can play his rovering role he prefers ala giannis playing off brook. I look forward to that.

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[raptor jesus]

Barnes most elite skill was his passing, it was his rookie season he showed his scoring/offense wasn't as raw as people thought it would. His low post and elbow/short mid range game was what awesome to see translated into the NBA. He could really bang down low/in traffic when he wanted.

His defense when he locks in, he got guys like Harden and PG singing his praises. He just needs to round it out, at times last season the intensity that we're used to isnt there and missing assignments...

What he doesnt have really is a clean outside game but honestly he really doesn't need it IMO, he should master what he's already good at and let guys like Dick & OG deal with that.

Yep, Scottie doesn't need Demar's footwork or Harden's step back package to be a very good offensive player. He has the size and strength that allows him to just bump defenders off their spot and rise over them to shoot. I'm hoping he's spending his offseason trying to master a few simple moves, rather than over-complicating his game.

[HiJiNX]

https://x.com/zazuoke/status/1689021749847797760?s=46&t=PK_PTsLkYYyXkyf21hlLzg

Average passer.

I don’t think anyone said he’s an average passer. He’s just not an elite one (yet) which most would agree. And one clip doesn’t change that. lol.

I’m really excited to see what kind of role Darko has for Scottie this year. This is a huge year for Scottie.

He absolutely is an elite passer.

He’s not an elite playmaker (lacks the necessary advantage creation), but he’s one of the best passers in the association.

This is close to my assessment of Barnes. I think that even more than elite passing what we has is elite awareness. However, his ability to place passes accurately is probably what I’m most impressed by. There are guys in the league who may be more creative passers, which he is as well, but Jokic, Lebron and maybe Haliburton are the guys who come to mind who I think are more accurate passers. He hits guys right where they need it most of the time. Though, of course, he does miss at times.

There are plenty of better playmakers than Barnes but I expect that skill set to develop for him as he gets more and more time and comfort as a scorer and offensive hub.

But for the most part, I was just trolling my guy Los haha.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

https://x.com/zazuoke/status/1689021749847797760?s=46&t=PK_PTsLkYYyXkyf21hlLzg

Average passer.

I don’t think anyone said he’s an average passer. He’s just not an elite one (yet) which most would agree. And one clip doesn’t change that. lol.

I’m really excited to see what kind of role Darko has for Scottie this year. This is a huge year for Scottie.

He absolutely is an elite passer.

He’s not an elite playmaker (lacks the necessary advantage creation), but he’s one of the best passers in the association.

definitely an elite passer. ofc we saw the great with the over-anxious passes in the first two years. not the playmaker yet because of limited opportunites.

we will see what the new coach has in store for him

[DG88]

Looks like Scottie played in the Powder League Pro Am in Utah. Second one he's been in this offseason.

[Tha Cynic]

Anyone have videos of this 30/20/10 night? Need to see what that jumper looks like lol

[Dalek]

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Average passer.

I like Scottie in the open court as a passer, and making basic reads on offense, but he needs more on-ball reps before I even put him ahead of Josh Giddey.

Once he is equal to or better than Giddey, then I think we can start believing in Scottie as a PG. Watching Giddey you can see him reading multiple options and making daring passes with much smaller passing windows. That is what stands out to me is that watching Giddey you see a tall PG, whereas with Scottie it still feels like a forward with some incredible passing:

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[HiJiNX]

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Average passer.

I like Scottie in the open court as a passer, and making basic reads on offense, but he needs more on-ball reps before I even put him ahead of Josh Giddey.

Once he is equal to or better than Giddey, then I think we can start believing in Scottie as a PG. Watching Giddey you can see him reading multiple options and making daring passes with much smaller passing windows. That is what stands out to me is that watching Giddey you see a tall PG, whereas with Scottie it still feels like a forward with some incredible passing:

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I agree that Giddey is the superior passer and playmaker. Giddey is special in that regard.

[WaltFrazier]

Even Magic threw a no look pass away for a pick six dunk, back in 81. I just saw it myself on Winning Time last night.

So Scottie can still be a PG

[ItsDanger]

Even Magic threw a no look pass away for a pick six dunk, back in 81. I just saw it myself on Winning Time last night.

So Scottie can still be a PG

Everyone should watch Magic Johnson highlights, especially in the half court, to see what Scottie can be in terms of style. Its not going to be very similar to many other PGs in the league today. I think it works best with a legit low paint scorer.

[Los_29]

Even Magic threw a no look pass away for a pick six dunk, back in 81. I just saw it myself on Winning Time last night.

So Scottie can still be a PG

There is a lot more to being a point guard than throwing no look passes. Jokic does that so much throughout the year that people have come to expect it. Jokic isn't a point guard though and I don't see Scottie as one. He doesn't have to be a point guard to be a great player in this league though. In fact, it's probably best for him to not be a point guard.

[tripa]

Even Magic threw a no look pass away for a pick six dunk, back in 81. I just saw it myself on Winning Time last night.

So Scottie can still be a PG

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