2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS

[RoteSchroder]

They leverage physical tools which aren't as immense as someone like Zion. These tools won't be as much of an advantage in the NBA and they will struggle to find other avenues to show value on the court. Demin has been bad against good competition and Edgecombe has serious skill issues when it comes to shooting and ball handling. I can almost definitely say they will be busts at the next level based on the early season alone.

A player like Edgecombe has always been a guard but sucks at handling the ball. What gives?

How does Edgecombe compare to Suggs? It seems to me that Edgecombe is more athletic and may have more slashing potential with a better first step, but could be worse in the skills department

For Demin, the lack of speed/quickness when he's operating is what had me hesitant on him. Against higher level competition, you're gonna want to move faster and shoot faster. It's possible for young players to get accustomed to the speed, but not everyone makes it.

[Ell Curry]

They leverage physical tools which aren't as immense as someone like Zion. These tools won't be as much of an advantage in the NBA and they will struggle to find other avenues to show value on the court. Demin has been bad against good competition and Edgecombe has serious skill issues when it comes to shooting and ball handling. I can almost definitely say they will be busts at the next level based on the early season alone.

A player like Edgecombe has always been a guard but sucks at handling the ball. What gives?

How does Edgecombe compare to Suggs? It seems to me that Edgecombe is more athletic and may have more slashing potential with a better first step, but could be worse in the skills department

For Demin, the lack of speed/quickness when he's operating is what had me hesitant on him. Against higher level competition, you're gonna want to move faster and shoot faster. It's possible for young players to get accustomed to the speed, but not everyone makes it.

Edgecombe's stats look most like Alvin Robertson to me, but he's before my time. 4X all star, though.

[MessiahUjiri]

They leverage physical tools which aren't as immense as someone like Zion. These tools won't be as much of an advantage in the NBA and they will struggle to find other avenues to show value on the court. Demin has been bad against good competition and Edgecombe has serious skill issues when it comes to shooting and ball handling. I can almost definitely say they will be busts at the next level based on the early season alone.

A player like Edgecombe has always been a guard but sucks at handling the ball. What gives?

How does Edgecombe compare to Suggs? It seems to me that Edgecombe is more athletic and may have more slashing potential with a better first step, but could be worse in the skills department

For Demin, the lack of speed/quickness when he's operating is what had me hesitant on him. Against higher level competition, you're gonna want to move faster and shoot faster. It's possible for young players to get accustomed to the speed, but not everyone makes it.

Edgecombe's stats look most like Alvin Robertson to me, but he's before my time. 4X all star, though.

Edgecombe’s stats look like year 3 Oladipo in college.

He’s not gonna be a PG, so he REALLY needs to up that 3pt shooting as an off ball guard. Could be like a skinny version of Marcus Smart.

[Ell Curry]

How does Edgecombe compare to Suggs? It seems to me that Edgecombe is more athletic and may have more slashing potential with a better first step, but could be worse in the skills department

For Demin, the lack of speed/quickness when he's operating is what had me hesitant on him. Against higher level competition, you're gonna want to move faster and shoot faster. It's possible for young players to get accustomed to the speed, but not everyone makes it.

Edgecombe's stats look most like Alvin Robertson to me, but he's before my time. 4X all star, though.

Edgecombe’s stats look like year 3 Oladipo in college.

He’s not gonna be a PG, so he REALLY needs to up that 3pt shooting as an off ball guard. Could be like a skinny version of Marcus Smart.

Not a bad comp. Oladipo was literally the #1 BPM player in college as a junior. Shot the crap out of the ball. Did struggle to hit from 3 his first 2 years. Edgecome seems to be where Oladipo was 2 years ahead in terms of floor game, but behind him in terms of scoring, even inside the arc.

Smart I remember being an effective pure PG in college from day 1, but yeah the stats are not dissimilar.

[Ell Curry]

Haven't watched this Michigan-Oklahoma game super closely, but the 2 things that jump out to me on Fears:

-Very smooth offensive guard, really does look like a modern starting (scoring) NBA PG and okay as a passer
-Not a tough defender. Isn't competing that hard and the opposing PG Donaldson is having a much better game than he had against Boogie Fland.

Edit: He hit a 4 point off the dribble 3 to win the game.

[PoundTown]

Edgecombe's stats look most like Alvin Robertson to me, but he's before my time. 4X all star, though.

Edgecombe’s stats look like year 3 Oladipo in college.

He’s not gonna be a PG, so he REALLY needs to up that 3pt shooting as an off ball guard. Could be like a skinny version of Marcus Smart.

Not a bad comp. Oladipo was literally the #1 BPM player in college as a junior. Shot the crap out of the ball. Did struggle to hit from 3 his first 2 years. Edgecome seems to be where Oladipo was 2 years ahead in terms of floor game, but behind him in terms of scoring, even inside the arc.

Smart I remember being an effective pure PG in college from day 1, but yeah the stats are not dissimilar.

He’s been the guy I’ve been comparing him to, as I watched him a lot in college and watch a lot of big ten ball. Vic was just as athletic in college as edgecomb was. Edgecomb looks like he’s going to be an impact guy, just don’t know if it’s a two way hustle guy and some offensive talent, not exactly like, but somewhat similar to a jalen suggs or is he going to develop shot and offensive game and become like oladipo before the injuries in his short prime. He’s 3-5 for me at the moment I think with Bailey wnd Jakuconis.

[XTC]

I've been very impressed by Derick Queen this year.

He reminds me alot of ZBO/Demarcus Cousins. He's going to be a bucket at the next level. Super strong, super coordinated, good touch, solid passer, and he shows potential to hit a jumper. Really exciting big man prospect. I like him more than Malauch. He's going to kill it with the numbers, but how he measures out is going to be huge for him.

[LoveMyRaps]

Fears soaring up the draft boards. Kids got game!

[LoveMyRaps]

Demin becoming overrated around these parts.

[XTC]

I'm going to say this... Cooper Flagg was my #1 to start the year off, but he's not the most impressive freshman to me.

Dylan Harper and Tre Johnson just have that different factor to them. I feel like Tre Johnson especially is super underrated. Kid is just different. He reminds me so much of Devin Booker.

[Brinbe]

Yep, Fears gonna be climbing the big boards, as he should. Polished and skilled dribble drive game, he's simply an entertaining player to watch. Though ultimately, like most guard prospects, it will be his shooting that determines if he can make it.

Fleming, also another potentially underrated prospect

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Feels like he could already be a rotational guy on a lot of teams in this league.

[Bruin]

Really wish Quaintance was draft eligible. He’d probably be Top 5

[Brinbe]

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[Syd-TK3]

A lot of good guards in this draft fit is certainly not gonna be a deciding factor in anyway that's forsure

[God Squad]

Doesn't Fears seem like Tre Mann? Maybe a year ahead in development comparable to Mann's sophomore year.

I honestly didn't watch Mann at Florida, so I'm not educated enough to make any proclamations. But the advanced stats favor Fears across the board for a freshman. In terms of Manns sophomore year they do look much better in terms of BPM, DBPM and OPM.

I'll have to watch more.

I haven't seen Fears, but my vague memory of Mann is that he was a meh guard (skinny, bit weak, not great at drawing free throws or finishing inside) with a very, very strong off the dribble 3 game (though also seems to have rebounded very well as a sophomore? Looks like a PF's rebound rate). Which seems about consistent with his pro career, though his rebounding hasn't held up, but that could be scheme based.

Just last night.

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[Yallbecrazy]

Ace High School. Talent is there. HS translate to nba

https://youtu.be/QuSEX4Qvi6M?si=c69r0A4Y0fuf_dlC

Now I want Ace to be "HIM" like the next guy. He's the perfect fit for our current roster construction. But he's not even close to being even good in terms of BPM. He's just not great right now regardless of the big/contested shots he takes. Also, why post-HS highlights when we have over 10 NCCA against better competition?

Ace wouldn't be the first or last "great" HS player who fizzles out in the NCAA. Happens every year, even for projected top 1-10 picks.

Spoiler:

I really wish he was playing better. But IMO he's OUT of the top 1-2 selections and it's 2man race with Harper/Flagg ATM

I'm the exact opposite camp of high school translates with the exception of outside shooting since there's a lot of variance in 3pt shooting a top hs 3pt shooter who struggles a bit as a freshman you can expect them to bounce back.

Ceteris Paribus I would take the lower ranked high school recruit with the same stats/ everything as the top recruit since they've shown either more growth to their game or that their game translates better against tougher competition.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Ace High School. Talent is there. HS translate to nba

https://youtu.be/QuSEX4Qvi6M?si=c69r0A4Y0fuf_dlC

Now I want Ace to be "HIM" like the next guy. He's the perfect fit for our current roster construction. But he's not even close to being even good in terms of BPM. He's just not great right now regardless of the big/contested shots he takes. Also, why post-HS highlights when we have over 10 NCCA against better competition?

Ace wouldn't be the first or last "great" HS player who fizzles out in the NCAA. Happens every year, even for projected top 1-10 picks.

Spoiler:

I really wish he was playing better. But IMO he's OUT of the top 1-2 selections and it's 2man race with Harper/Flagg ATM

I'm the exact opposite camp of high school translates with the exception of outside shooting since there's a lot of variance in 3pt shooting a top hs 3pt shooter who struggles a bit as a freshman you can expect them to bounce back.

Ceteris Paribus I would take the lower ranked high school recruit with the same stats/ everything as the top recruit since they've shown either more growth to their game or that their game translates better against tougher competition.

The Ignite basically folded because of high school top prospects repeatedly underwhelming in the NBA.

But let's go with (subjective) top 20 players (at any time in their career) in the NBA and top 10 RSCI rankings. Since 2004, I have:

Dwight Howard (1st)
Kevin Durant (2nd)
Rose (5th)
Love (2nd)
John Wall (2nd)
Kyrie (2nd)
AD (1st)
KAT (5th)
Brown (3rd)
Tatum (3rd)
Zion (4th)
Ant (4th)
Banchero (3rd)

I have, subjectively, 13 players. I know some would open it up and add some more and the later drafts are more tbd in terms of impact (Scottie could make the list down the road, for example). Let's add 7 more from the later years to be generous.

EDIT: So in 20 RSCI rankings, 200 players, we have 20 players that can be top 20 at any given time. Then start to consider the statistical production that most of these players had in the NCAA. That's why I think Ace has to really turn it up in order to earn his current ranking.

[bozothepope]

Fears Dick backcourt?

[Psubs]

Now I want Ace to be "HIM" like the next guy. He's the perfect fit for our current roster construction. But he's not even close to being even good in terms of BPM. He's just not great right now regardless of the big/contested shots he takes. Also, why post-HS highlights when we have over 10 NCCA against better competition?

Ace wouldn't be the first or last "great" HS player who fizzles out in the NCAA. Happens every year, even for projected top 1-10 picks.

Spoiler:

I really wish he was playing better. But IMO he's OUT of the top 1-2 selections and it's 2man race with Harper/Flagg ATM

I'm the exact opposite camp of high school translates with the exception of outside shooting since there's a lot of variance in 3pt shooting a top hs 3pt shooter who struggles a bit as a freshman you can expect them to bounce back.

Ceteris Paribus I would take the lower ranked high school recruit with the same stats/ everything as the top recruit since they've shown either more growth to their game or that their game translates better against tougher competition.

The Ignite basically folded because of high school top prospects repeatedly underwhelming in the NBA.

But let's go with (subjective) top 20 players (at any time in their career) in the NBA and top 10 RSCI rankings. Since 2004, I have:

Dwight Howard (1st)
Kevin Durant (2nd)
Rose (5th)
Love (2nd)
John Wall (2nd)
Kyrie (2nd)
AD (1st)
KAT (5th)
Brown (3rd)
Tatum (3rd)
Zion (4th)
Ant (4th)
Banchero (3rd)

I have, subjectively, 13 players. I know some would open it up and add some more and the later drafts are more tbd in terms of impact (Scottie could make the list down the road, for example). Let's add 7 more from the later years to be generous.

EDIT: So in 20 RSCI rankings, 200 players, we have 20 players that can be top 20 at any given time. Then start to consider the statistical production that most of these players had in the NCAA. That's why I think Ace has to really turn it up in order to earn his current ranking.

Prior to playing their freshman year,

2023
1. Isaiah Collier
2. Ron Holland

2022
1.Nick Smith
2. Dariq Whitehead

2021
4. JJ Hardy
5. Emoni Bates

2020
5. Brandon Boston

[Psubs]

Fears Dick backcourt?

Trade for Anthony Black.