Raptors NBA Draft Thread: Jeremy Lamb (HOU)

Reignman · Post #181 » by **Reignman** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:02 pm

His lack of intensity also rears his head on offense. The kid hates contact. If he doesn't change his approach in the NBA, he's going to end up like Martell Webster, a guy stays on the perimeter and just shoots while providing very little else

MEDIC · Post #182 » by **MEDIC** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:18 pm

Undefeated wrote:Of course it's not okay, but it is what it is. But you're telling me you've never slacked off when you have teammates that are just fooling around on the court taking away the energy and fun from the game? You don't even need to be on a team. Heck, even in pick up ball it happens.

I know I didn't slack off when I played HS sports. I was super competitive & would get pissed at teammates if they goofed around too much. I had more of a Kobe/ Jordan approach mentally. I actually would practice/ train in the summer so I was in game shape when the season started.

I guess that's why I was often named team captain. I practiced like it was a game. Gave it my all on every play.

The guys that were more naturally athletic/ taller than me used to frustrate the he'll out of me because they should have been better than me, but they weren't.

So no, from a personal standpoint, I can't really understand. The only time a player should get a pass for slacking a little is if they are winning a complete blowout game (late in the game).

Lawnmower Man · Post #183 » by **Lawnmower Man** » Wed May 9, 2012 7:46 pm

Anyone who is pro-Bargnani should not be anti-Lamb because of any perceived lack of intensity.

Dr Positivity · Post #184 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed May 9, 2012 9:57 pm

Lamb being roughly as good a SG as Bargnani is a PF would still make him a good pick at #8. If you can get a legitimate 35mpg, 16 PER+ unquestioned starter at #8... you take it every time IMO. But in this case I think he really does have star potential

I think Lamb is a no brainer if he falls to 8. Would be very much like the Monroe and Rudy Gay picks IMO. A player that's obviously mega talented that gets his motor concerns overblown...

But I'm worried we're two or three spots too low in the draft and Sac or Portland bites on Lamb...

Chaos Engine · Post #185 » by **Chaos Engine** » Wed May 9, 2012 10:53 pm

Lawnmower Man wrote:Anyone who is pro-Bargnani should not be anti-Lamb because of any perceived lack of intensity.

I'm not pro-Bargnani or anti-Lamb

if he's there at 8 we take him. Just don't like the excuses being made for him in this thread.

God Squad · Post #186 » by **God Squad** » Sun May 13, 2012 3:07 pm

MEDIC wrote:
The Chucker wrote:lmao dis cat sayin he watched multiple games den bringing up dx. yer kno wut dey say.

I think I need a translator.....

Somebody.....anybody.....

His "Engrish nO GooD"

Throwback24 · Post #187 » by **Throwback24** » Sun May 13, 2012 8:29 pm

Where are the Jeremy Lamb sigs?! I seem to have lost my old one

mango2209 · Post #188 » by **mango2209** » Sun May 13, 2012 8:49 pm

Is lamb a similar player to oj mayo?
In terms of impact, is that what we should expect?

BigBaller · Post #189 » by **BigBaller** » Sun May 13, 2012 9:24 pm

Lamb is good. But the food is bad.

fredericklove · Post #190 » by **fredericklove** » Mon May 14, 2012 4:11 am

mango2209 wrote:Is lamb a similar player to oj mayo?
In terms of impact, is that what we should expect?

Nope. Mayo doesn't know how to play off-ball, can't use screens, his size is a problem (not the penis size), but he doesn't play bigger than his size due to limited wingspan. Skillwise, I thought mayo had the best skillset coming into the draft that year..but look at him now. I still think Lamb's skillset translate better cos he knows how to score in different ways.

fredericklove · Post #191 » by **fredericklove** » Mon May 14, 2012 4:11 am

BigBaller wrote:Lamb is good. But the food is bad.

Are you kidding me? Roasted Rack of Lamb is the best!

JamesNaismith · Post #192 » by **JamesNaismith** » Tue May 15, 2012 2:40 am

fredericklove wrote:
BigBaller wrote:Lamb is good. But the food is bad.

Are you kidding me? Roasted Rack of Lamb is the best!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZlHuGKc4e8[/youtube]

...and I'm still praying this kid falls to us in the draft

Relentless88 · Post #193 » by **Relentless88** » Tue May 15, 2012 3:50 am

JamesNaismith wrote:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZlHuGKc4e8[/youtube]

...and I'm still praying this kid falls to us in the draft

Lets hope he does terrible in the workouts. :-?

raptor21_85 · Post #194 » by **raptor21_85** » Tue May 15, 2012 4:06 am

who should we pick ahead of Lamb?? i mean, if we got luck and Barnes falls to 8?

JamesNaismith · Post #195 » by **JamesNaismith** » Tue May 15, 2012 4:18 am

raptor21_85 wrote:who should we pick ahead of Lamb?? i mean, if we got luck and Barnes falls to 8?

I believe Lamb is more talented and has greater upside but no doubt Colangelo would draft Barnes if he were available as he just makes like much easier....he makes it so DeRozan doesn't have to move positions or have Lamb come off the bench (worst case) and Barnes has a "marketable" personality that BC could easily sell. He also would be a good fit in our lineup and I believe Casey would make him seem much better than almost any other team would as Casey's system relies on shooters (which Barnes is) and defending (which Barnes was heralded for in his freshman year but had a slight dip last year).

As for who will likely be taken before Lamb:

Davis
Beal
MKG
Drummond
TRob
Barnes

In a dream world someone falls in love with Sullinger (which I actually think would be fair considering he's close to TRob and may turn out better), PJ3 or Lillard but I think it's likely that Lamb is taken before. It actually won't surprise me if Rap fans' hearts are broken when Lamb goes BEFORE Barnes at POR but then GS takes Barnes right before us. SMH just how I see it happening...

bboyskinnylegs · Post #196 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue May 15, 2012 4:31 am

I'd take Lamb ahead of Barnes, but it's not like we'll have that decision to make on draft night anyways so it doesn't matter.

OAKLEY_2 · Post #197 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Tue May 15, 2012 10:43 am

One of Barnes, Lamb or Sullinger should be there at 8. Barnes is the best fit, Lamb the best potential and Sullinger would force our hand on other moves which might be a very good thing. I'm pretty sure we could find Lamb and Barnes quality players by other means but not a young beast in the paint like Sullinger. A front court with JV, Bargs, Sullinger and Amir is an enticing prospect. Switch Ed for Amir and the same applies. Sullinger, like Amir, should be able to play minutes at centre easily which puts Ed Davis squarely into the mix for a trade. If we get Sullinger at 8 it will be a very good thing IMHO. My guess is he's gone and it will be Lamb who is there. Lamb's frame looks like a high schooler but once he gets stronger he may become an even better finisher. Watching Demar develop I have every reason to believe he can make the transition to the 3 spot.

Mehar · Post #198 » by **Mehar** » Tue May 15, 2012 12:47 pm

OAKLEY_2 wrote:One of Barnes, Lamb or Sullinger should be there at 8. Barnes is the best fit, Lamb the best potential and Sullinger would force our hand on other moves which might be a very good thing. I'm pretty sure we could find Lamb and Barnes quality players by other means but not a young beast in the paint like Sullinger. A front court with JV, Bargs, Sullinger and Amir is an enticing prospect. Switch Ed for Amir and the same applies. Sullinger, like Amir, should be able to play minutes at centre easily which puts Ed Davis squarely into the mix for a trade. If we get Sullinger at 8 it will be a very good thing IMHO. My guess is he's gone and it will be Lamb who is there. Lamb's frame looks like a high schooler but once he gets stronger he may become an even better finisher. Watching Demar develop I have every reason to believe he can make the transition to the 3 spot.

With all due respect man, no way Sullinger can play center. His real height is inflated, since I read an article from three months back stating he is only 6 foot 8 in shoes, and 6 foot 7 without them. He has a height of a small forward, and is an undersized PF. Demar is a Shooting Guard (6 feet 5.5 inches without shoes). He does not have the size to play the SF spot, and guard bigger/stronger guys like Lebron James or Carmelo at the 3 spot. I think Lamb will be there at 8, Barnes will be gone, and Marshall will be there as well. Lamb or Marshall should be the pick if Toronto does not move up.

Post #199 » by **Rhettmatic** » Tue May 15, 2012 6:52 pm

Fran Fraschilla argues here that he would take Jeremy Lamb over Bradley Beal:

Personally, I'm leaning towards Lamb because of his size, length and effectiveness in an NBA offense's "sweet spot," the 15- to 18-foot range. And, I'm willing to overlook the Huskies' dysfunctional season with Lamb as their centerpiece because I can't ignore the poise he played with as a freshman. And, he did go for 23 or more points eight different times this season, despite the team's poor chemistry.

(It's a long article, so you'll have to read the rest to get his reasoning behind that decision)

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/n ... adley-beal

fredericklove · Post #200 » by **fredericklove** » Tue May 15, 2012 7:11 pm

Rhettmatic wrote:Fran Fraschilla argues here that he would take Jeremy Lamb over Bradley Beal:

Personally, I'm leaning towards Lamb because of his size, length and effectiveness in an NBA offense's "sweet spot," the 15- to 18-foot range. And, I'm willing to overlook the Huskies' dysfunctional season with Lamb as their centerpiece because I can't ignore the poise he played with as a freshman. And, he did go for 23 or more points eight different times this season, despite the team's poor chemistry.

(It's a long article, so you'll have to read the rest to get his reasoning behind that decision)

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/n ... adley-beal

If Lamb is taken before Beal due to scoring need from teams before us, then we're gonna be so screwed when all 4 wings are taken in top 6. We half-ass tanked this season for none of Lamb, Beal, Barnes or MKG. That's frustrated.

If still on the Board by our pick what are the chanches we draft him?