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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#181 » by Throwback24 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:54 pm

What does the Raptors ownership group have to say about this? If we're trying to create a winning culture we need to take a stand here.
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#182 » by Risk101 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:54 pm

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Risk101 wrote:She came into the relationship knowing what kind of scum he was, she had a change of heart when he cancelled there trip to Europe. She's just as guilty for supporting this man and needs to take some responsibility in this.

The sad part is she will probably be on every news/media outlet telling her sob story about how bad of a human being Sterling is, but when she was getting her bills paid she never had a problem.



That's quite the assertion.

How do you know she didn't have problems with his racism while they were together? Because she didn't leave?

People stay in horrible relationships all the time. It's not as easy as some people think to just remove yourself from something like that, and having a dynamic where there's a huge disparity in wealth, and some financial support clearly going on, doesn't exactly make it any easier.

It might seem easy to just leave from a rational perspective, but if I've learned anything, it's that relationships are inherently irrational. Some people think they can change, or "save" the people they're with, or they hope their partner's immature/childish behaviour will eventually correct itself, and they're willing to put up with, or overlook their partner's shortcomings, no matter how absurd it seems from any rational observation.

People have arrangements and dynamics that work for them until they don't, and what works for some might not work for others. My morals are my own, and I'm not about to impose them on others, so I personally don't get why people are focused on the dynamic between Sterling and his girlfriend when it's clear the issue is that Sterling is a giant racist, and this woman did the world a huge favour by exposing what was, up until this point, only tacitly implied.


How do I know she didn't have problems with his racism during the relationship?

If she did have a problem she should have left, why stay if you know he has those views, especially being black yourself. How could you feel comfortable with someone who shares those types of radical views? I understand dealing with some peoples short comings but that's unacceptable. It just goes to show what some people are willing to deal with when money is thrown there way.

Let her enjoy her 15mins of fame and then become the insignificant person she is.
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#183 » by MA29 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:56 pm

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Salted Meat wrote:
Risk101 wrote:She came into the relationship knowing what kind of scum he was, she had a change of heart when he cancelled there trip to Europe. She's just as guilty for supporting this man and needs to take some responsibility in this.

The sad part is she will probably be on every news/media outlet telling her sob story about how bad of a human being Sterling is, but when she was getting her bills paid she never had a problem.



That's quite the assertion.

How do you know she didn't have problems with his racism while they were together? Because she didn't leave?

People stay in horrible relationships all the time. It's not as easy as some people think to just remove yourself from something like that, and having a dynamic where there's a huge disparity in wealth, and some financial support clearly going on, doesn't exactly make it any easier.

It might seem easy to just leave from a rational perspective, but if I've learned anything, it's that relationships are inherently irrational. Some people think they can change, or "save" the people they're with, or they hope their partner's immature/childish behaviour will eventually correct itself, and they're willing to put up with, or overlook their partner's shortcomings, no matter how absurd it seems from any rational observation.

People have arrangements and dynamics that work for them until they don't, and what works for some might not work for others. My morals are my own, and I'm not about to impose them on others, so I personally don't get why people are focused on the dynamic between Sterling and his girlfriend when it's clear the issue is that Sterling is a giant racist, and this woman did the world a huge favour by exposing what was, up until this point, only tacitly implied.


You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


You don't think Sterling knows that? He does in fact, its a 2 way relationship. This man is a scum sexist misogynist, and racist. He's spoiling her and like many humans she likes being spoiled. So what? Just as prostitutes aren't the main problem, it's the irrationality of men who think it's ok to pay for females that's the problem.
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#184 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:56 pm

Salted Meat wrote:
-TheDocOfDenial wrote:You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


And you're reducing their relationship, which they mutually entered into, to a statement about her singular objectives.

Do you understand why this is a problem?


This is the real world buddy boy I call it like I see it. This is not some poor lady who is getting abused by her husband and has no other option but to stay so that she doesn't become homeless. This is by definition a gold digger. She doesn't care if Sterling is a racist/KKK/war lord as long as she gets her money
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#185 » by -TheDocOfDenial » Sat Apr 26, 2014 7:57 pm

MA29 wrote:
-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
Salted Meat wrote:

That's quite the assertion.

How do you know she didn't have problems with his racism while they were together? Because she didn't leave?

People stay in horrible relationships all the time. It's not as easy as some people think to just remove yourself from something like that, and having a dynamic where there's a huge disparity in wealth, and some financial support clearly going on, doesn't exactly make it any easier.

It might seem easy to just leave from a rational perspective, but if I've learned anything, it's that relationships are inherently irrational. Some people think they can change, or "save" the people they're with, or they hope their partner's immature/childish behaviour will eventually correct itself, and they're willing to put up with, or overlook their partner's shortcomings, no matter how absurd it seems from any rational observation.

People have arrangements and dynamics that work for them until they don't, and what works for some might not work for others. My morals are my own, and I'm not about to impose them on others, so I personally don't get why people are focused on the dynamic between Sterling and his girlfriend when it's clear the issue is that Sterling is a giant racist, and this woman did the world a huge favour by exposing what was, up until this point, only tacitly implied.


You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


You don't think Sterling knows that? He does in fact, its a 2 way relationship. This man is a scum sexist misogynist, and racist. He's spoiling her and like many humans she likes being spoiled. So what? Just as prostitutes aren't the main problem, it's the irrationality of men who think it's ok to pay for females that's the problem.


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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#186 » by geminiz » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:03 pm

-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
MA29 wrote:
-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


You don't think Sterling knows that? He does in fact, its a 2 way relationship. This man is a scum sexist misogynist, and racist. He's spoiling her and like many humans she likes being spoiled. So what? Just as prostitutes aren't the main problem, it's the irrationality of men who think it's ok to pay for females that's the problem.


Here the comes the Social Justice Brigade. I'm out.


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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#187 » by Risk101 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:04 pm

MA29 wrote:
-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
Salted Meat wrote:

That's quite the assertion.

How do you know she didn't have problems with his racism while they were together? Because she didn't leave?

People stay in horrible relationships all the time. It's not as easy as some people think to just remove yourself from something like that, and having a dynamic where there's a huge disparity in wealth, and some financial support clearly going on, doesn't exactly make it any easier.

It might seem easy to just leave from a rational perspective, but if I've learned anything, it's that relationships are inherently irrational. Some people think they can change, or "save" the people they're with, or they hope their partner's immature/childish behaviour will eventually correct itself, and they're willing to put up with, or overlook their partner's shortcomings, no matter how absurd it seems from any rational observation.

People have arrangements and dynamics that work for them until they don't, and what works for some might not work for others. My morals are my own, and I'm not about to impose them on others, so I personally don't get why people are focused on the dynamic between Sterling and his girlfriend when it's clear the issue is that Sterling is a giant racist, and this woman did the world a huge favour by exposing what was, up until this point, only tacitly implied.


You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


You don't think Sterling knows that? He does in fact, its a 2 way relationship. This man is a scum sexist misogynist, and racist. He's spoiling her and like many humans she likes being spoiled. So what? Just as prostitutes aren't the main problem, it's the irrationality of men who think it's ok to pay for females that's the problem.


Under that logic she should have kept her mouth shut, it's a two way relationship as you said and she knew what she was getting herself into.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#188 » by FluLikeSymptoms » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:09 pm

Silver holding a press conference on the matter at 830pm on NBATV.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#189 » by suntzuballin » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:25 pm

sterling has slave master mentality so to speak.
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#190 » by G R E Y » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:32 pm

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FluLikeSymptoms wrote:I don't think anyone has ever defended Sterling (other than his lawyer). I hope the NBA can do something about it but I'm not sure he's broken any laws. Seems as though they would have already done something in the past 30 years if they could have.

The thing is, swearing (Masai), gay slurs (Kobe, Noah) aren't illegal, but they're dealt with swiftly. Yes in the past Sterling's antics were swept under the rug, perhaps with a 'well it's not illegal so what can we do' shrug (and a stern convo with Stern about Sterling keeping his racist yap shut), but there's an influx of new generation of owners coming into the league, the NBA is clear about being inclusive, and Silver wants to put his own stamp on the league - all reasons that point to a turn in the tide against staying silent about this. It's not technically illegal, but there's still precedent for the NBA acting on other inappropriate matters. The time has come for this to be dealt with just as swiftly.

IIRC Kobe and Noah were in uniform when they used Gay slurs, and Masai was repping the team in front of thousands- they would still need to adhere to a code of conduct. This was a private-ish conversation, recorded on audio only, so it's not even 100% it was him. I think he would need to admit to it, for starters. You may be able to record racist things said between players and wives/GFs/friends every day and I'm not sure it would go anywhere beyond shame, and Silver doesn't work for those guys. He works for Sterling, as Stern did. This is tricky.

You're right, the different contexts merit a second thought about how far the league's influence can extend. Sterling did tell his gf, though, to not bring Black people to the games, I mean that's a huge smear on the league. But the fact that the league is officially investigating, and Silver's going to have a presser about the matter makes me hopeful that the NBA will exercise, once proven it's him, whatever powers the league constitution or whatever allows him/owners to.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#191 » by DADDDDY » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:32 pm

This is disgusting...it will be interesting to see what happens.
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Post#192 » by suntzuballin » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:48 pm

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This guy is a joke and needs to pay for his words.


He probably thinks Griffin isn't half bad.

wow just tryn to conceal\cover up whats the real..
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Post#193 » by Crazy_NBA_Fan » Sat Apr 26, 2014 8:58 pm

Doc Rivers comments about JJ Reddick being just as pissed as CP3 for Sterling's comments are fishy to me. Does anyone remember JJ Reddick dating the woman Shaq used to date who got a restraining order on her? I read emails between JJ Reddick and her not too long ago, and he was accusing her of being a nig*er lover. It's funny that he thinks the world has forgotten about his own comments. He better be careful while talking to the media, they like to dig up old stories.
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#194 » by WhatsaTDot » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:00 pm

What are the known facts about this woman? Cause I see a whole bunch of aspersions about her but I wonder where the information comes from.
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Post#195 » by WiggOuts » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:06 pm

These are two extremely disgusting people. This, ladies and gentlemen is the definition of a whore, she claims to have moral values only long enough for him to remind her about "going to Europe", then all that goes out the window.

On one hand, you have a racist old fart whos dating a black chick and trying to get her to pretend she isn't black. And on the other hand you have a black gold digger dating a rich old racist thatll preach moral fiber for all of 5 seconds and then drop it after being reminded about money. If this is how thick they are then why waste time even having the conversation...when she said a single word he might as well just said "ching ching" and she, in theory, would hop back into line.

If they get married she should divorce him and donate half of his money to save the kids in Africa
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#196 » by WiggOuts » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:13 pm

MA29 wrote:
-TheDocOfDenial wrote:
Salted Meat wrote:

That's quite the assertion.

How do you know she didn't have problems with his racism while they were together? Because she didn't leave?

People stay in horrible relationships all the time. It's not as easy as some people think to just remove yourself from something like that, and having a dynamic where there's a huge disparity in wealth, and some financial support clearly going on, doesn't exactly make it any easier.

It might seem easy to just leave from a rational perspective, but if I've learned anything, it's that relationships are inherently irrational. Some people think they can change, or "save" the people they're with, or they hope their partner's immature/childish behaviour will eventually correct itself, and they're willing to put up with, or overlook their partner's shortcomings, no matter how absurd it seems from any rational observation.

People have arrangements and dynamics that work for them until they don't, and what works for some might not work for others. My morals are my own, and I'm not about to impose them on others, so I personally don't get why people are focused on the dynamic between Sterling and his girlfriend when it's clear the issue is that Sterling is a giant racist, and this woman did the world a huge favour by exposing what was, up until this point, only tacitly implied.


You are giving her too much credit..she is a gold digger


You don't think Sterling knows that? He does in fact, its a 2 way relationship. This man is a scum sexist misogynist, and racist. He's spoiling her and like many humans she likes being spoiled. So what? Just as prostitutes aren't the main problem, it's the irrationality of men who think it's ok to pay for females that's the problem.

lol you make it seem like shes some victim here. She damn well knows what shes doing, lets not forget it takes two to play the game. Sterling can be an axe murderer but this woman is willingly subjecting herself to this because shes getting a free ride.

People with money will always do things like this because people without it will always sell their souls to get it
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#197 » by Sakic » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:13 pm

WhatsaTDot wrote:What are the known facts about this woman? Cause I see a whole bunch of aspersions about her but I wonder where the information comes from.


Last month, CBS reported that Rochelle Sterling, Sterling's wife, filed a lawsuit against Stiviano, alleging she had a sexual affair with her husband. The suit, which states Sterling and Stiviano began their relationship after meeting at the Super Bowl in 2010, asks for a return of all cash, land cars and other items that under California law are the community property of the Sterlings.


If you think it's a coincidence that this came out now, you're kidding yourself. She would've probably never released this stuff if he had given her what she wanted.
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Re: Silver's 1st big test Stirling racist owner 

Post#198 » by MA29 » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:24 pm

geminiz wrote:Let's all ignore logic and try to be politically correct!


More like, let's use logical fallacies to assess this situation and ignore the fact of the matter. :roll:
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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#199 » by C Court » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:27 pm

wtfbosh wrote:
Oakville_Raptor wrote:I want to know why Clippers players are taking this so seriously...they already knew Sterling was a racist idiot. Deandre Jordan should delete his stupid black photo off instagram because it's making him look like a moron.


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Re: Donald Sterling Still a Racist? 

Post#200 » by KnickerBonkerz » Sat Apr 26, 2014 9:31 pm

Throwback24 wrote:What does the Raptors ownership group have to say about this? If we're trying to create a winning culture we need to take a stand here.

:lol:

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