Patrick McCaw is not a NBA caliber player

[Randle McMurphy]

OP looks stupid now.

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I think you forgot to post this last night. Works better than after tonight’s.

[alienchild]

OP looks stupid now.

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Not just now.

[gregdj]

Do some research and actually look at his contribution per minutes played. He's not doing that bad but he could obviously be better. The last 2 games he has been pretty good and is showing he can be better. Over the last 7 days MCCAW has been better than OG stat wise.

Was this not enough research for you?

Patrick McCaw this season has a 0.025 WS/48, a -2.0 BPM, a 0.0 VORP, a -2.76 PIPM (25th worst in the NBA), a -2.62 RPM (25th worst in the NBA), and a -7.7 RAPTOR rating (9th worst in NBA among players with more than 100 minutes).

I'm sure he's good, though.

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How about actually looking at the last 7 days of stats in comparison. I've already seen it. I'm not saying McCaw is better than OG but I'm saying the last 7 days ...

[mickie]

That's typical with Raps fans..the call out our players garbage then gets a bigger garbage in return and watch the guy they initially thought was garbage become a stud.

Some Raptor fans here are bipolar.

Welcome to Toronto!
See Leafs trade young European kids for torn ACLs on some good Canadian kid who won awards 15 years ago.

Neither the Leafs or the Raptors doing that anymore. We are on the winning end of trades . See championship ring.

I'm talking about fans not the actual organization. Please don't put Championship and Leafs in the same sentence.

[will]

Pat McCaw is a gotdamn NBA hooper.

Put some respek on his name!

[Clementine64]

Was this not enough research for you?



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McCaw had the worst +/- out of all the starters today with a -10. OG despite going 0-7 from 3 was at 0.

McCaw was torched all night by their guards and he hinders the team's offense completely when he's out there as he can't create anything whatsoever off the dribble. At least he unusually made his wide open 3s tonight (that any team is more than happy to give him/us), but that doesn't make up for the rest.

Even worse is he's terrible in 2k. Cant shoot, dribble or finish just completely useless. Lol

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[C_Money]

Was this not enough research for you?



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McCaw had the worst +/- out of all the starters today with a -10. OG despite going 0-7 from 3 was at 0.

McCaw was torched all night by their guards and he hinders the team's offense completely when he's out there as he can't create anything whatsoever off the dribble. At least he unusually made his wide open 3s tonight (that any team is more than happy to give him/us), but that doesn't make up for the rest.

I was thinking the same. Too many guys standing around watching Kyle and Fred dribble the ball because they can’t do anything else offensively.

[CBC_Raptor]

You got enough people reminding you then, I logged on to RealGM last night and reminded you again.

[Randle McMurphy]

McCaw had the worst +/- out of all the starters today with a -10. OG despite going 0-7 from 3 was at 0.

McCaw was torched all night by their guards and he hinders the team's offense completely when he's out there as he can't create anything whatsoever off the dribble. At least he unusually made his wide open 3s tonight (that any team is more than happy to give him/us), but that doesn't make up for the rest.

I was thinking the same. Too many guys standing around watching Kyle and Fred dribble the ball because they can’t do anything else offensively.

Creating off the dribble at the end of games gets a lot more difficult when you are playing with a complete offensive non-threat who defenders can just leave to help on at any time, yes. We win yesterday's game if McCaw wasn't on the floor at the end.

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McCaw was torched all night by their guards and he hinders the team's offense completely when he's out there as he can't create anything whatsoever off the dribble. At least he unusually made his wide open 3s tonight (that any team is more than happy to give him/us), but that doesn't make up for the rest.

I was thinking the same. Too many guys standing around watching Kyle and Fred dribble the ball because they can’t do anything else offensively.

Creating off the dribble at the end of games gets a lot more difficult when you are playing with a complete offensive non-threat who defenders can just leave to help on at any time, yes. We win yesterday's game if McCaw wasn't on the floor at the end.

We win yesterday's game if a lot of things. If Kyle isn't gassed at the end, if the refs have a pulse, if OG doesn't go 0-7 on open threes, if Serge ever learns to avoid critical moving screen fouls. You're making too much of this one person. No one is claiming McCaw is destined to be an elite starter, but as free agent pickup on a modest contract, he could turn out to be a decent bench find or a nice inclusion in a trade package – or would you prefer we use a first round draft pick to acquire a third string point guard?

[Randle McMurphy]

I was thinking the same. Too many guys standing around watching Kyle and Fred dribble the ball because they can’t do anything else offensively.

Creating off the dribble at the end of games gets a lot more difficult when you are playing with a complete offensive non-threat who defenders can just leave to help on at any time, yes. We win yesterday's game if McCaw wasn't on the floor at the end.

We win yesterday's game if a lot of things. If Kyle isn't gassed at the end, if the refs have a pulse, if OG doesn't go 0-7 on open threes, if Serge ever learns to avoid critical moving screen fouls. You're making too much of this one person. No one is claiming McCaw is destined to be an elite starter, but as free agent pickup on a modest contract, he could turn out to be a decent bench find or a nice inclusion in a trade package – or would you prefer we use a first round draft pick to acquire a third string point guard?

The hope is that the purpose of this charade has been just to trade him, but I'd just rather play Terrence Davis, an actual effective NBA player, over Patrick McCaw. It would have the dual benefit of both making the team better and developing a legitimate NBA prospect over whatever it is they think they are doing with this guy.

[alienchild]

I was thinking the same. Too many guys standing around watching Kyle and Fred dribble the ball because they can’t do anything else offensively.

Creating off the dribble at the end of games gets a lot more difficult when you are playing with a complete offensive non-threat who defenders can just leave to help on at any time, yes. We win yesterday's game if McCaw wasn't on the floor at the end.

We win yesterday's game if a lot of things. If Kyle isn't gassed at the end, if the refs have a pulse, if OG doesn't go 0-7 on open threes, if Serge ever learns to avoid critical moving screen fouls. You're making too much of this one person. No one is claiming McCaw is destined to be an elite starter, but as free agent pickup on a modest contract, he could turn out to be a decent bench find or a nice inclusion in a trade package – or would you prefer we use a first round draft pick to acquire a third string point guard?

Apparently, Australian authorities are now investigating McCaw's role in the bushfires too.

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Creating off the dribble at the end of games gets a lot more difficult when you are playing with a complete offensive non-threat who defenders can just leave to help on at any time, yes. We win yesterday's game if McCaw wasn't on the floor at the end.

We win yesterday's game if a lot of things. If Kyle isn't gassed at the end, if the refs have a pulse, if OG doesn't go 0-7 on open threes, if Serge ever learns to avoid critical moving screen fouls. You're making too much of this one person. No one is claiming McCaw is destined to be an elite starter, but as free agent pickup on a modest contract, he could turn out to be a decent bench find or a nice inclusion in a trade package – or would you prefer we use a first round draft pick to acquire a third string point guard?

The hope is that the purpose of this charade has been just to trade him, but I'd just rather play Terrence Davis, an actual effective NBA player, over Patrick McCaw. It would have the dual benefit of both making the team better and developing a legitimate NBA prospect over whatever it is they think they are doing with this guy.

Charade? This team believes in asset development, and that's what this is. Davis has gotten a lot of burn as well. One might imagine scenarios where a healthy Norm and picks might make the basis of a nice package, embellished with either Davis or McCaw - both of whom project as combo guards – to get a higher end starter. McCaw is 6'7" and if he could develop into a nice backup, that would interest a lot of teams in a league increasingly obsessed with tall guards who can play both guard positions. I can't see how playing McCaw precludes developing Davis. Meanwhile, based on an admittedly small sample, McCaw's current FG% and 3PT% are career highs. If he could deliver these numbers across a full schedule, he'd have some trade value in his own right.

[Double Bubble]

Seriously i give op his props hes getting flamed up in here and taking it like a man

How many snowflakes up in this board could take the beating without resorting to child’s play idiot arguments and insults. Respect

[OAKLEY_2]

Pat McCaw is a gotdamn NBA hooper.

Put some respek on his name!

I think he is insanely unselfish and commits to team ball and team goals. He has proved he is far from a liability. With young players it should be our wish to develop them and get maximum performance. Losing by one before January who really gives a crp. The playoffs last year these guys a lot and they are best when scratching to get back in it. Playing desperate. Oshae is getting a look because he must have shown something in the national program... I want to see more development for sure.

[Hero_Panda]

Seriously i give op his props hes getting flamed up in here and taking it like a man

How many snowflakes up in this board could take the beating without resorting to child’s play idiot arguments and insults. Respect

It's sad, really. To have a grudge on complete stranger all for the sake of being "right".
As a fan, wouldn't you want the players of the team you follow to play well?

[NBA Sheady]

Right now the look in his eyes is so different. Mans was shook before. Now he looks like a pro athlete.

"This game is 100% Physical and 100% Mental" ~ Bill Walton

[will]

Pat McCaw is a gotdamn NBA hooper.

Put some respek on his name!

I think he is insanely unselfish and commits to team ball and team goals. He has proved he is far from a liability. With young players it should be our wish to develop them and get maximum performance. Losing by one before January who really gives a crp. The playoffs last year these guys a lot and they are best when scratching to get back in it. Playing desperate. Oshae is getting a look because he must have shown something in the national program... I want to see more development for sure.

Truer words never been said.

Plus...think about the amount of time McCaw has actually played in his career thus far. 4th season now...spend 2 seasons in GState playing limited minutes - although he did have a nice playoff run (playoffs? PLAYOFFS?!?!?!?). Outside of that, he has not been able to stay healthy. Hopefully this season, Nicky Nurse and the coaching staff continue to work with McCaw and help him develop and further his career.

As a general comment, it's pretty damn funny to see realgm posters complain about McCaw and an NBA player in general.

Armchair NBA players.
Armchair NBA general managers.
Armchair NBA coaches.

[will]

Right now the look in his eyes is so different. Mans was shook before. Now he looks like a pro athlete.

"This game is 100% Physical and 100% Mental" ~ Bill Walton

Mans is now doing the shaking.

[RoLo]

Seriously i give op his props hes getting flamed up in here and taking it like a man

How many snowflakes up in this board could take the beating without resorting to child’s play idiot arguments and insults. Respect

It's sad, really. To have a grudge on complete stranger all for the sake of being "right".
As a fan, wouldn't you want the players of the team you follow to play well?

ppl want the team to do well. no one cares if its Patrick McCaw or f*cking lorenzo brown. the guys that gaslight others into thinking they are less of a fan because they critisize, or as some call it, arm chair GM, are the ones that should go. the ones that support in light of contradictory evidence. newsflash, no member of the organization, no matter how much success, is infallible and unassailable. the raps line of scrubs with fanatic capers is long and plenty. we literally had a segment of the fanbase try to convince others that Bargnani was a good player.