Windhorst - "Sixers wouldn't give up Maxey"

[Los_29]

The league belongs to Tatum, KD, LeBron, Giannis, Kawhi, PG13 (and Embiid&Jokic) with everything they can do on the court.

Plus Maxey is not in that tier of player: He is not a Trae nor a Ja. Currently, he is with the Darius Garland of this world. I wish any of those guys could play D on any player hence play almost any position, but they physically can't. Their teams have to be carefully constructed around them.

I can't believe someone just compared Tyrese Maxey to Ja, Trae and Steph. I'm just going to pretend like I didn't see that.

I think you're actually being way too generous in comparing Maxey to Garland. Garland is a significantly better player simply due to the fact he can actually pass and run an offense. You got the right team right though. I think Maxey at this point is similar to Collin Sexton.

The NBA is a big man's game. Tony Parker was the last small guy to win Finals MVP. He won that 15 years ago.

Let's given them Darius Garland , only because Sexton though a 20pt regular-season scorer has never been in the playoffs to show anything.
Maxey had one of this best games of the season against us, earlier in the season. We just seem not to matchup well against him and the entire current Sixers lineup; consequently he might have looked like an even 'better' prospect.

Maxey wouldn't be in the playoffs either if he was the 1st option. We've won 3 of the 5 games against the Sixers this year. Maxey scores primarily because we don't mind him scoring. Of course we don't want him going for 38 points on 70% shooting but that's not going to be the norm.

The Sexton comparisons are very real. They are comparable in many ways.

[ash_k]

The league belongs to shot creators regardless of size.

So you think Precious has a higher ceiling than Ja, Trae or Steph?

The league belongs to Tatum, KD, LeBron, Giannis, Kawhi, PG13 (and Embiid&Jokic) with everything they can do on the court.

Plus Maxey is not in that tier of player: He is not a Trae nor a Ja. Currently, he is with the Darius Garland of this world. I wish any of those guys could play D on any player hence play almost any position, but they physically can't. Their teams have to be carefully constructed around them.

Neither is Precious in your first tier of players, Tatum, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, etc. I put Maxey with as good a chance of improving to the Trae/Ja tier as Achiuwa to Kawhi/KD/ LBJ/ Giannis. It's very questionable whether he'll become as good as Pascal, his skillset and body type is more like OG.

If either of these young players gets close to the tiers we're talking about, it's a great thing for them. But to me you can't absolutely predict one will get there and one won't.

Precious has more potential than Pascal; and if you consider that Pascal is one-tier(? 2?) below Tatum then it bodes well for 6'8 Precious (versus a 6'2 Combo-guard)

[Los_29]

The league belongs to Tatum, KD, LeBron, Giannis, Kawhi, PG13 (and Embiid&Jokic) with everything they can do on the court.

Plus Maxey is not in that tier of player: He is not a Trae nor a Ja. Currently, he is with the Darius Garland of this world. I wish any of those guys could play D on any player hence play almost any position, but they physically can't. Their teams have to be carefully constructed around them.

Neither is Precious in your first tier of players, Tatum, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, etc. I put Maxey with as good a chance of improving to the Trae/Ja tier as Achiuwa to Kawhi/KD/ LBJ/ Giannis. It's very questionable whether he'll become as good as Pascal, his skillset and body type is more like OG.

If either of these young players gets close to the tiers we're talking about, it's a great thing for them. But to me you can't absolutely predict one will get there and one won't.

Precious has more potential than Pascal; and if you consider that Pascal is one-tier(? 2?) below Tatum then it bodes well for 6'8 Precious (versus a 6'2 Combo-guard)

I don't think Precious has more potential than Pascal but I think he is more athletic than OG. Either way, even a level or two levels below Pascal is a better and more important player than a 6'2 combo guard who can't defend or pass.

[ash_k]

Neither is Precious in your first tier of players, Tatum, KD, Lebron, Kawhi, etc. I put Maxey with as good a chance of improving to the Trae/Ja tier as Achiuwa to Kawhi/KD/ LBJ/ Giannis. It's very questionable whether he'll become as good as Pascal, his skillset and body type is more like OG.

If either of these young players gets close to the tiers we're talking about, it's a great thing for them. But to me you can't absolutely predict one will get there and one won't.

Precious has more potential than Pascal; and if you consider that Pascal is one-tier(? 2?) below Tatum then it bodes well for 6'8 Precious (versus a 6'2 Combo-guard)

I don't think Precious has more potential than Pascal but I think he is more athletic than OG. Either way, even a level or two levels below Pascal is a better and more important player than a 6'2 combo guard who can't defend or pass.

He does. At the same age, Precious is about 2 years ahead.

[OakleyDokely]

It's hilarious how fast a couple posters show up after a loss but disappear after wins and there have been lots of wins this year.

Bunch of cowards.

[OakleyDokely]

Imagine being so wrong all year about a team that your biggest complaint is the team didn't acquire some teams 3rd or 4th best player in an imaginary trade from the previous season.

[Steelo Green]

Imagine being so wrong all year about a team that your biggest complaint is the team didn't acquire some teams 3rd or 4th best player in an imaginary trade from the previous season.

Yeah. You’re right.

Not like the only real asset that truly has that next level value is Barnes who everyone said was not required and had threads filled with conjecture and lies talking about top 5 picks being of low value.

All this team is - is a team that can win regular season games similar to many teams of the past and have no playoff prowess.

Barnes when he’s a few years down the line can be that 1-2 but the two 28 year olds are nothing but fools gold.

Stars win you titles.

Also the whole Barnes v Suggs is some big hurrah moment when people didn’t think it had any value so again it circles back to the ideological differences which are again right on the other end.

But hey the 5 seed versus the 7-11 and losing out pick for Thad. We definitely were wrong.

[OakleyDokely]

Imagine being so wrong all year about a team that your biggest complaint is the team didn't acquire some teams 3rd or 4th best player in an imaginary trade from the previous season.

Yeah. You’re right.

Not like the only real asset that truly has that next level value is Barnes who everyone said was not required and had threads filled with conjecture and lies talking about top 5 picks being of low value.

All this team is - is a team that can win regular season games similar to many teams of the past and have no playoff prowess.

Barnes when he’s a few years down the line can be that 1-2 but the two 28 year olds are nothing but fools gold.

Stars win you titles.

Also the whole Barnes v Suggs is some big hurrah moment when people didn’t think it had any value so again it circles back to the ideological differences which are again right on the other end.

But hey the 5 seed versus the 7-11 and losing out pick for Thad. We definitely were wrong.

You were completely wrong about the quality of the team. They finished close to 50 wins, probably 15-20 more than you predicted.

You were wrong about Siakam and VV.

You were wrong about GTJ.

You were wrong about Barnes vs Suggs.

Now, one of the best sources in the NBA says Maxey was never on the table.

You're wrong about literally everything.

[Pooh_Jeter]

It's hilarious how fast a couple posters show up after a loss but disappear after wins and there have been lots of wins this year.

Bunch of cowards.

Would it be better if we disappeared to a secret board on this site and then accosted users who weren't "lucky" enough to be invited to it?

[Steelo Green]

Imagine being so wrong all year about a team that your biggest complaint is the team didn't acquire some teams 3rd or 4th best player in an imaginary trade from the previous season.

Yeah. You’re right.

Not like the only real asset that truly has that next level value is Barnes who everyone said was not required and had threads filled with conjecture and lies talking about top 5 picks being of low value.

All this team is - is a team that can win regular season games similar to many teams of the past and have no playoff prowess.

Barnes when he’s a few years down the line can be that 1-2 but the two 28 year olds are nothing but fools gold.

Stars win you titles.

Also the whole Barnes v Suggs is some big hurrah moment when people didn’t think it had any value so again it circles back to the ideological differences which are again right on the other end.

But hey the 5 seed versus the 7-11 and losing out pick for Thad. We definitely were wrong.

You were completely wrong about the quality of the team. They finished close to 50 wins, probably 15-20 more than you predicted.

You were wrong about Siakam and VV.

You were wrong about GTJ.

You were wrong about Barnes vs Suggs.

Now, one of the best sources in the NBA says Maxey was never on the table.

You're wrong about literally everything.

What was wrong about Fred and Pascal? Fred was an all-star and as usual playoffs come and he will disappear because of the focus on him. Pascal same thing too. They’re just low level all-stars who will win you nothing.

GTJ is literally exactly what we thought. Hot and cold chucker. I said he was a THJ type. Which is exactly what he is.

Barnes v Suggs again you just ignored the ideological differences that you yourself were hellbent on not caring for a lottery pick.

Windhorst has literally said he was and wasn’t on the table? Lowe said he was, Hollinger did, the Philly best writer did. Now it’s we’re wrong when you yourself said you won’t believe it unless it’s Woj for Windhorst himself?

[OakleyDokely]

Yeah. You’re right.

Not like the only real asset that truly has that next level value is Barnes who everyone said was not required and had threads filled with conjecture and lies talking about top 5 picks being of low value.

All this team is - is a team that can win regular season games similar to many teams of the past and have no playoff prowess.

Barnes when he’s a few years down the line can be that 1-2 but the two 28 year olds are nothing but fools gold.

Stars win you titles.

Also the whole Barnes v Suggs is some big hurrah moment when people didn’t think it had any value so again it circles back to the ideological differences which are again right on the other end.

But hey the 5 seed versus the 7-11 and losing out pick for Thad. We definitely were wrong.

You were completely wrong about the quality of the team. They finished close to 50 wins, probably 15-20 more than you predicted.

You were wrong about Siakam and VV.

You were wrong about GTJ.

You were wrong about Barnes vs Suggs.

Now, one of the best sources in the NBA says Maxey was never on the table.

You're wrong about literally everything.

What was wrong about Fred and Pascal? Fred was an all-star and as usual playoffs come and he will disappear because of the focus on him. Pascal same thing too. They’re just low level all-stars who will win you nothing.

GTJ is literally exactly what we thought. Hot and cold chucker. I said he was a THJ type. Which is exactly what he is.

Barnes v Suggs again you just ignored the ideological differences that you yourself were hellbent on not caring for a lottery pick.

Windhorst has literally said he was and wasn’t on the table? Lowe said he was, Hollinger did, the Philly best writer did. Now it’s we’re wrong when you yourself said you won’t believe it unless it’s Woj for Windhorst himself?

Wrong. About everything. And there a million old threads that prove it time after time. The worst part is, you're a coward who only finds his voice after losses.

[Johnny Bball]

It's hilarious how fast a couple posters show up after a loss but disappear after wins and there have been lots of wins this year.

Bunch of cowards.

Would it be better if we disappeared to a secret board on this site

Yes. You might be the prime example of why something like that would need to exist in the first place.

Imagine being so wrong all year about a team that your biggest complaint is the team didn't acquire some teams 3rd or 4th best player in an imaginary trade from the previous season.

Imagine being right about the player but being so bitter you still prefer the lie intended solely to make Ujiri look bad.

[Los_29]

Precious has more potential than Pascal; and if you consider that Pascal is one-tier(? 2?) below Tatum then it bodes well for 6'8 Precious (versus a 6'2 Combo-guard)

I don't think Precious has more potential than Pascal but I think he is more athletic than OG. Either way, even a level or two levels below Pascal is a better and more important player than a 6'2 combo guard who can't defend or pass.

He does. At the same age, Precious is about 2 years ahead.

Statistically, Precious isn’t further ahead. But as I said earlier he doesn’t need to reach the level of Siakam to be more valuable than an undersized SG. You’d be hard pressed to find a team that’d choose a Collin Sexton type player over a long, athletic player who can handle the ball, defend every position and score at a reasonable clip. That’s the player they hope Precious can become.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Precious def way further ahead at 22 than Pascal was.. Won't be hard to be ahead of Pascal's 23 y/o season as well it was his 3rd year pascal made the big jump... precious def further along so far.

[OakleyDokely]

It's hilarious how fast a couple posters show up after a loss but disappear after wins and there have been lots of wins this year.

Bunch of cowards.

Would it be better if we disappeared to a secret board on this site and then accosted users who weren't "lucky" enough to be invited to it?

You're accosted for your bad takes. That wouldn't change regardless of the number boards there are.

[Los_29]

You were completely wrong about the quality of the team. They finished close to 50 wins, probably 15-20 more than you predicted.

You were wrong about Siakam and VV.

You were wrong about GTJ.

You were wrong about Barnes vs Suggs.

Now, one of the best sources in the NBA says Maxey was never on the table.

You're wrong about literally everything.

What was wrong about Fred and Pascal? Fred was an all-star and as usual playoffs come and he will disappear because of the focus on him. Pascal same thing too. They’re just low level all-stars who will win you nothing.

GTJ is literally exactly what we thought. Hot and cold chucker. I said he was a THJ type. Which is exactly what he is.

Barnes v Suggs again you just ignored the ideological differences that you yourself were hellbent on not caring for a lottery pick.

Windhorst has literally said he was and wasn’t on the table? Lowe said he was, Hollinger did, the Philly best writer did. Now it’s we’re wrong when you yourself said you won’t believe it unless it’s Woj for Windhorst himself?

Wrong. About everything. And there a million old threads that prove it time after time. The worst part is, you're a coward who only finds his voice after losses.

It’s clear as day, Windhorst said he wasn’t available on national tv in front of millions of people worldwide. He said this two days ago.

This should be great news. Not sure why people are trying to turn this into a negative. It’s a positive because Masai was holding out for Maxey and when Morey said no he decided to stand Pat instead of accepting a less desirable deal. This organization is in good hands.

[Los_29]

Can you imagine if the Sixers get past us and they lose to Lowry and the Heat? Morey will never be able to live that down. Lowry, Embiid, Harden and Harris would would have been unbelievable. And actually they would have beaten the Hawks so Simmons and Curry would have still been there. They’d also have their picks and wouldn’t have to dish out 250 million to Harden.

To win a championship you need to take risks. We traded for Kawhi, Sixers and Celtics stood Pat. Last year a player that could’ve won them a championship was available. Morey didn’t take a risk. Fortune favours the bold.

[ash_k]

Precious def way further ahead at 22 than Pascal was.. Won't be hard to be ahead of Pascal's 23 y/o season as well it was his 3rd year pascal made the big jump... precious def further along so far.

then you look at his young resume to better understand where is all that confidence coming from ?

There is a lot of attention around Memphis and Penny Hardaway. A top program now with all the top prospects:
The future number one pick Wiseman(suspended) was supposed to win AAC Player of the Year (2020), AAC Freshman of the Year (2020) and of course be First-team All-AAC (2020), but Freshman Precious won all those accolades then we wonder where all that irrational confidence has grown from !

Currently we only have two former McDonald's All-Americans: Precious and Gary T
In 2019, 247Sports had Precious at 9 and Maxey at 10 in their recruiting rankings

[Psubs]

I don't think Precious has more potential than Pascal but I think he is more athletic than OG. Either way, even a level or two levels below Pascal is a better and more important player than a 6'2 combo guard who can't defend or pass.

He does. At the same age, Precious is about 2 years ahead.

Statistically, Precious isn’t further ahead. But as I said earlier he doesn’t need to reach the level of Siakam to be more valuable than an undersized SG. You’d be hard pressed to find a team that’d choose a Collin Sexton type player over a long, athletic player who can handle the ball, defend every position and score at a reasonable clip. That’s the player they hope Precious can become.

No contending team needs Colin Sexton at his current role as a starter. Maybe as a scorer off the bench like Malik Monk.

I tried to think of a team out there that would be better with Sexton and could only think of 1, Detroit. Paired with Cade, it might be good. I mean Houston and Orlando can't be worse than before.

[Johnny Bball]

Yeah. You’re right.

Not like the only real asset that truly has that next level value is Barnes who everyone said was not required and had threads filled with conjecture and lies talking about top 5 picks being of low value.

All this team is - is a team that can win regular season games similar to many teams of the past and have no playoff prowess.

Barnes when he’s a few years down the line can be that 1-2 but the two 28 year olds are nothing but fools gold.

Stars win you titles.

Also the whole Barnes v Suggs is some big hurrah moment when people didn’t think it had any value so again it circles back to the ideological differences which are again right on the other end.

But hey the 5 seed versus the 7-11 and losing out pick for Thad. We definitely were wrong.

You were completely wrong about the quality of the team. They finished close to 50 wins, probably 15-20 more than you predicted.

You were wrong about Siakam and VV.

You were wrong about GTJ.

You were wrong about Barnes vs Suggs.

Now, one of the best sources in the NBA says Maxey was never on the table.

You're wrong about literally everything.

What was wrong about Fred and Pascal? Fred was an all-star and as usual playoffs come and he will disappear because of the focus on him. Pascal same thing too. They’re just low level all-stars who will win you nothing.

GTJ is literally exactly what we thought. Hot and cold chucker. I said he was a THJ type. Which is exactly what he is.

Barnes v Suggs again you just ignored the ideological differences that you yourself were hellbent on not caring for a lottery pick.

Windhorst has literally said he was and wasn’t on the table? Lowe said he was, Hollinger did, the Philly best writer did. Now it’s we’re wrong when you yourself said you won’t believe it unless it’s Woj for Windhorst himself?

What was wrong that you posted about Pascal? You said you were going to enjoy his career fizzling out just months ago and he's likely all-NBA now. That's how wrong you were about Pascal. Just for one.

You want us to find the rest you were wrong about? I mean, we really should compile a whole list going back to what you thought this team would be to Paul Watson being a better prospect than OG.