Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward”

[h4rrison]

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10

Grant is a UFA and Portland is getting fleeced from their own trade lol. Giving up your whole roster and youth for role players sans Siakam. Hawks say no too, much rather have Cap/Collins and the higher pick than Wood/Grant. Nurk and Turner is a wash and moved up 4 spots for 2 late firsts PLUS Bertains and a late first back? What a bargain.

As much as I want the raps to fleece other teams, this is a highway robbery for us lol

[Syd-TK3]

Considering the Celtics are about to get Swept Brown definitely is becoming more of an option
But idk why a contending team would want a pick unless a 3rd team is involved

[HumbleRen]

Considering the Celtics are about to get Swept Brown definitely is becoming more of an option
But idk why a contending team would want a pick unless a 3rd team is involved

I’m passing on Jaylen Brown now that he’s eligible for a supermax.

[arbsn]

I just can’t see this trade happening with the Raptors. Siakam and OG are both expiring so the trade creates too much risk. Even if they include 13. Maybe if they get a promise via their agent or something.

If a promise does get made I suppose OG+13 for Simons+3 makes some sense for both teams

New Orleans has more assets to get a deal done. They could do 3+Simons+Little for Brandon Ingram + Alvarado + 14 which would trump our offer

[6ixpessant]

I've thought for some time the Raptors would be picking wherever Portland was this draft. Too much smoke over the last year or two. One just hopes there's no motivation for a screw job in a potential deal. It's perfectly fine to make a trade that is great for both teams.

That said, I can't stand Scoot and his game.

[Godaddycurse]

Considering the Celtics are about to get Swept Brown definitely is becoming more of an option
But idk why a contending team would want a pick unless a 3rd team is involved

I’m passing on Jaylen Brown now that he’s eligible for a supermax.

He wouldnt be eligible anymore if traded

[Johnny Bball]

I just can’t see this trade happening with the Raptors. Siakam and OG are both expiring so the trade creates too much risk. Even if they include 13. Maybe if they get a promise via their agent or something.

If a promise does get made I suppose OG+13 for Simons+3 makes some sense for both teams

New Orleans has more assets to get a deal done. They could do 3+Simons+Little for Brandon Ingram + Alvarado + 14 which would trump our offer

New Orleans should be trying to mopve forward now and not back.

[Tha Cynic]

I just can’t see this trade happening with the Raptors. Siakam and OG are both expiring so the trade creates too much risk. Even if they include 13. Maybe if they get a promise via their agent or something.

If a promise does get made I suppose OG+13 for Simons+3 makes some sense for both teams

New Orleans has more assets to get a deal done. They could do 3+Simons+Little for Brandon Ingram + Alvarado + 14 which would trump our offer

Brandon Ingram has the best value out of all the players and picks on those teams. No way Pelicans even trade him. I wouldn't be surprised if they're more willing to trade Zion.

[Tripod]

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10

The thing is, Indy is fine for guards and bigs, they need a wing. And the Raps are the opposite. They don't need to move Turner on a good contract for 2 bigs who are way overpaid and term, just to move up to draft a guard.

They would rather just trade #7 and add extra picks to add a wing that can play now...but still young.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

Only because the rest of their roster is trash. Especially if we get Simons coming back.

Unless Brown becomes available the Blazers aren’t getting anyone better at the forward spot. Kat isn’t better. Demar isn’t better, Lavine isn’t better. It’s Siakam boys. LETS GOOOOOO!

Blazers FO have been after OG and Siakam for a while now, been making offers to us every off season but Blazers fans are like "Nah, don't want them". Bozos.

It’s super star or bust… At this point they should know if they get Durant for example, their entire roster is going to be gutted and they’d be back at square one. And they’d be losing far more than #3 and Simons. They’d probably lose their next 4 draft picks and swaps

OG for sharpe sounds about right
Siakam for Simons and #3 sounds a little light for us because Siakam is a proven star and an all-nba caliber player, no matter how hard us raptors fans are on him, we know he was meant to shine as a #2 even though he’s putting up #1 numbers.

[WuTang_CMB]

Good news for us. Bridges has more value than siakam imo

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[Zeno]

Listening to the Athletic podcast with the Blazers beat writer and he seemed pretty certain they were trading the pick and Simons for a forward. He said he thinks Dame’s first choice is Bridges but Nets are not looking to move him it appears by all reports. Pascal was a definite next target. When he was asked about Paul George, he seemed to think that was a possibility too as far as what the Blazers were looking for. Hopefully George doesn’t come on the market because that would screw with the market for our guys I think.
Interestingly the Detroit writer seemed very interested in OG for #5 later in the pod.

[PhilBlackson]

Listening to the Athletic podcast with the Blazers beat writer and he seemed pretty certain they were trading the pick and Simons for a forward. He said he thinks Dame’s first choice is Bridges but Nets are not looking to move him it appears by all reports. Pascal was a definite next target. When he was asked about Paul George, he seemed to think that was a possibility too as far as what the Blazers were looking for. Hopefully George doesn’t come on the market because that would screw with the market for our guys I think.
Interestingly the Detroit writer seemed very interested in OG for #5 later in the pod.

Please lawd let this be true.

Idc if it’s Miller or Scoot and I would trade OG for the 5th + obv some other pieces (doubt they include Ivey but Duren would be nice) & draft Ausar or flip OG to GSW for Kuminga, Poole and 2 picks. I don’t care if the team struggled for the next few years as they grow/develop together. I’d be waaaay more excited to watch the team moving forward. If no serious trades are made, I know I won’t be tuning in…

[Loyal_Canuck]

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10

One of my favourite trades posted on the site , however, that would require a lot of cooperation which I don’t think will happen

[TorontoBarneys]

Bagley+#5 for OG sounds cool on paper. Not only do you get a top pick but you also shed 5m in salary and Bagley could possibly be rehabilitated on the Raptors into a productive role player.

[Loyal_Canuck]

And we might have to include Og in that trade because I think Portland would be one piece away from contending in the west. Hopefully they can use their future draft capital to acquire some benching scoring and depth mid season

[WuTang_CMB]

I think charlotte would be stupid to pass on Scoot for Miller but that’s just me. If it happens though, Raps gotta be aggressive. We have zero guards on this team. Would be nice to have a PG of the future.

[Tacoma]

its gonna be Siakam

if its OG and filler, that would be a surprise

Ya...who else would it be?

Julius Randle? - there is no way Randle is worth #3.

KAT? - possible...but he would make the Blazers already bad defence...much much much worse. But maybe the plan is to pair Ant Edwards with Scoot Henderson or Brandon Miller?

Jaylen Brown? - I can't imagine a contending team trading their 2nd best player for a draft pick.

Lauri Markkanen? - had a great breakout season but worthy of a #3 pick?

Mikal Bridges? - great defender, pretty good shooter ---rebounding and passing is lacking---I think it's too soon to consider him elite. He needs to do more than take all the shots on a bad Brooklyn team before considering him elite.

Pascal? - 2 time NBA all-star; 2 time all-NBA; Most Improved Player; NBA champion and bonafide 2nd option on a championship team

Why is there no way Randle worth #3 but Siakam is worth it?

Randle is also a 2x NBA all-star, 2x all-NBA, Most Improved Player. Their stat lines are quite similar with Randle being the slightly better 3PT shooter and rebounder, while Siakam has Championship experience for what that's worth.

Both can be legit 2nd options but I would argue neither are good enough to contend for a Championship when paired with Dame. Portland will need more than just Dame + Siakam/Randle. That's why OG is in the equation.

[Rapsfan07]

Portland In: Siakam, Hardaway, Turner, McConnell, #13 (via TOR)
Portland Out: Simons, Sharpe, #3, Nurkic, Grant, #23 (via NYK)

Dallas In: Capella, Collins, #26 (via IND via CLE)
Dallas Out: Hardaway, Bertans, Wood, #10

Atlanta In: Grant, Wood, #29 (via IND, via BOS)
Atlanta Out: Capella, Collins, #15

Toronto In: Simons, Sharpe, #7 (via IND), #10 (via DAL)
Toronto Out: Siakam, #13

Indiana In: #3 (via POR), #15 (via ATL), Nurkic, Bertans, #23 (NYK via POR)
Indiana Out: #7, Turner, McConnell, #26, #29

POR: Lillard/Hardaway/Thybulle/Siakam/Turner
DAL: Irving/Green/Doncic/Collins/Capella
ATL: Young/Murray/Hunter/Grant/Wood

Pacers will add either Scoot or Miller to the rebuild as well as two others. Toronto will begin the rebuild with Sharpe, #7 and #10

If we trade Siakam we want #3 or no dice. Scoot/miller and Simons. Nevermind all these other teams

Sorry bro but it's not going to work like that.

The thing about trades is it has to benefit, or at least appear to benefit both sides. As good as Siakam is, if the Blazers move Simons + #3 for him, they've spent arguably their best asset and still have a lot of holes to fill. This is why many fans don't want to do it, though their FO may feel very differently. But either way, this doesn't make them contenders.

If you want Portland to move #3, it needs to be done in a way that makes them contenders or else they won't do it. Toronto might get stuck either having to max extend Siakam, keeping us in the middle for longer, or take a Poole + Kuminga centered package from Golden State, which IMO is much worse than the one we're getting here.

[NinjaBro]

I think charlotte would be stupid to pass on Scoot for Miller but that’s just me. If it happens though, Raps gotta be aggressive. We have zero guards on this team. Would be nice to have a PG of the future.

What is FVV? Chopped liver?