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Re: Pelley new MLSE boss, could be good for teams 

Post#181 » by Scase » Fri May 23, 2025 9:54 pm

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SpezNc wrote:The Raptors

Raptors president/vice-chair Masai Ujiri’s job seems to be safe with a year left on his contract: “Under Masai, they have obviously not only won a championship but they started the rebuild, and I’m optimistic about the season ahead.” Pressed further about the NBA team, Pelley said he wanted to focus on the Leafs.

Is it me or the bold part is very worrying.

1- Looks like Raptors are not important
2- Looks like he knows that Masai’s contract is a hot potato

Or am I overthinking/ overreaching/ overreacting ?


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Could be take as...

Today is about the Leafs and Shanahan, so let's focus on that since that decision has been made.

It makes sense not to talk about Masai today since maybe a decision hasn't been made yet. And he is still under contract for another year. No sense opening that discussion today...just put it off.

The one difference is Masai is actually the decision maker on players. He is the face of the franchise...not only on Toronto but across Canada, the US, and world. He does the trades. He has relationships with other decision makers. And he has actually won. Shanny was none of that.

Ultimately I think ED dislikes him so he will be gone. But it may not be this offseason. Of course it wouldn't shock me if we had one of those "free to talk to other organizations" report come out and be gone.

Isn't his contract done after this season, or is it 2026?
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Post#182 » by polo007 » Fri May 23, 2025 10:26 pm

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Post#183 » by Quattro » Fri May 23, 2025 11:46 pm

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Scase wrote:Yeah no doubt, but honestly, I think we need it. Just gotta hope it's not a BC or Babcock type GM.



In what world do you forsee that NOT happening? Go back and read up on how Rogers handled the firing/replacement of Beeston and Anthopolous. Incompetent isn't a strong enough adjective to describe it

Its not a coincidence that all three of these absolutely dead end franchises turned things around when MLSE finally hired a guy who's mandate was to hire the right people and then stay out of their way. Now it seems we're going back to square one.

I certainly won't be joining for the inevitable downhill roller coaster ride when it finally happens.

What part of "hope it's not", made you think I don't foresee that? I expect it, I'm hoping it won't lol. We need to change it up, I'm just hoping it won't be someone as bad as BC/Babcock.



There is absolutely zero doubt in my mind that it will. Zero doubt.
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Post#184 » by Tripod » Sat May 24, 2025 12:58 am

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Tripod wrote:
SpezNc wrote:The Raptors

Raptors president/vice-chair Masai Ujiri’s job seems to be safe with a year left on his contract: “Under Masai, they have obviously not only won a championship but they started the rebuild, and I’m optimistic about the season ahead.” Pressed further about the NBA team, Pelley said he wanted to focus on the Leafs.

Is it me or the bold part is very worrying.

1- Looks like Raptors are not important
2- Looks like he knows that Masai’s contract is a hot potato

Or am I overthinking/ overreaching/ overreacting ?


Source:
https://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/mitch-marner-raptors-tfc-blue-jays-whats-the-next-move-for-mlse-after-maple-leafs/article_1a1a6c57-c588-48a2-b352-dae0887234b7.html?utm_medium=SocialMedia&utm_source=Twitter

Could be take as...

Today is about the Leafs and Shanahan, so let's focus on that since that decision has been made.

It makes sense not to talk about Masai today since maybe a decision hasn't been made yet. And he is still under contract for another year. No sense opening that discussion today...just put it off.

The one difference is Masai is actually the decision maker on players. He is the face of the franchise...not only on Toronto but across Canada, the US, and world. He does the trades. He has relationships with other decision makers. And he has actually won. Shanny was none of that.

Ultimately I think ED dislikes him so he will be gone. But it may not be this offseason. Of course it wouldn't shock me if we had one of those "free to talk to other organizations" report come out and be gone.

Isn't his contract done after this season, or is it 2026?

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Post#185 » by Westside Gunn » Sat May 24, 2025 2:40 am

Reading Pelleys profile it seems like he's a media guy from the business side, with the NHL deal being his biggest one for rogers. That didn't turn out as planned but his buddy hooked him up with this MLSE gig.

Its a cushy gig. Just maintain the path of mediocrity with the Leafs because they have a generational wait for season tickets to watch this underachieving team, and because he doesn't know much about basketball he stays away from it. Lieweke, Shanny couldn't change the gatekeeping corporate and boomer demographics of Leaf fans in the last 10 years and it won't change in anytime in the future unless they relocate the arena far into the burbs.

Masai is here to stay.
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Post#186 » by Randle McMurphy » Sat May 24, 2025 2:52 am

Pelley will do exactly as Ed tells him. We can only hope that means Masai will be on the way out shortly.
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Post#187 » by Ado05 » Sat May 24, 2025 6:18 am

If Pelley can move on from Masai/current FO then that will be a positive.
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Post#188 » by anotherhomer » Sat May 24, 2025 11:54 am

i think Ujiri has one year left, this quote from Pelley says it all....

"The people that are going to make the key hockey decisions and key basketball decisions are going to be hockey-oriented people and basketball-oriented people"


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Post#189 » by theonlyeastcoastrapsfan » Sat May 24, 2025 1:54 pm

It may be time for some new Raps leadership.
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Post#190 » by Scott Hall » Sat May 24, 2025 3:09 pm

There's literally no point in getting rid of Ujiri.

Doesn't matter who you bring in no superstar free agent is going to want to sign in Canada and with the current state of this country who can blame them?

You want a GM who blows it up and does a "proper" rebuild well the NBA rigs the lottery and if for some crazy reason it isn't the system is a complete joke with ridiculous odds that now punishes the bad teams.

So you need a GM/President that is good at drafting and making trades which is what Ujiri is good at.

The East is completely wide open and with a little bit of tinkering, not getting wiped out by injuries again and not actively tanking this team should/could be a top 5 team in the East in the next year or 2.

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Post#191 » by Ado05 » Sat May 24, 2025 3:35 pm

Masai hasn’t done anything in the last three years to justify being one of/the highest paid exec in basketball, that’s why he’ll be gone.

It’s pretty simple.
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Post#192 » by Scott Hall » Sat May 24, 2025 3:45 pm

The teams been rebuilding the last 3 years guys let's use our brains

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Post#193 » by Pointgod » Sat May 24, 2025 4:17 pm

anotherhomer wrote:i think Ujiri has one year left, this quote from Pelley says it all....

"The people that are going to make the key hockey decisions and key basketball decisions are going to be hockey-oriented people and basketball-oriented people"


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Post#194 » by Tha Cynic » Sat May 24, 2025 5:15 pm

Who do they plan to replace Masai with who will be better? There’s a higher chance we go back to the colangelo, Babcock, Grundwald years, which was a miserable time.

Free agents are not a thing with the Raptors. Our best signings are Schroeder and Turkoglu and a couple of guys from Europe in our entire existence. IMO the Raptors will have an extremely difficult time finding an executive who will even come close to Masai’s jockstraps.

Be careful what you wish for. They’re rebuilding now and imo it’s better to let this iteration play out. We can even see why Masai wanted to keep FVV, Siakam, and OG. Those were good players who just didn’t click together once Lowry and the other veterans left. I can’t fault him for trying to make it work.
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Post#195 » by ForeverTFC » Sat May 24, 2025 5:57 pm

The greatest executive in Toronto sports history and we got people in here hoping Peddie 2.0 moves off him so they can beat off to losses and ping pong balls.
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Post#196 » by Raptorfan2012 » Sat May 24, 2025 6:17 pm

Masai is working on gifting Pelley and Ed Giannis to prove his worth.
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Post#197 » by ForeverTFC » Sat May 24, 2025 8:26 pm

Ado05 wrote:Masai hasn’t done anything in the last three years to justify being one of/the highest paid exec in basketball, that’s why he’ll be gone.

It’s pretty simple.


Is it your money?

Masai has done more than any executive in Toronto, ever.
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Post#198 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat May 24, 2025 8:29 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:The greatest executive in Toronto sports history and we got people in here hoping Peddie 2.0 moves off him so they can beat off to losses and ping pong balls.


In my lifetime that's Pat Gillick. If Pat ran the Jays like Masai ran the Raptors the last few years I would want a new leader.

At this point, I want Masai to see the year through. It's too late to change course with the draft approaching. If he gives us another gem in the draft and we win high 40s to low 50s then re-up the man, by all means. People act like executives are eternal and always capable of producing, but the vast majority of them have expiration dates just like players. They get caught up in their own egos, too. In the NBA, there's really only Pat Riley that has had a second and third life as a repeat winner. It's brutal out there. As fans, we should expect more for our money and time. I think a lot of what Pelley was talking about in his Leaf presser was identifying just that.
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Post#199 » by anotherhomer » Sun May 25, 2025 2:35 am

based on the fact that brandon shannahan wasn't replaced it's most likely ujiri will walk next year, and bobby webster will take over.

it's going to be similiar to the gord ash years....
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Post#200 » by Raps in 4 » Sun May 25, 2025 3:01 am

Ado05 wrote:If Pelley can move on from Masai/current FO then that will be a positive.


People said the same thing about AA on the Jays. We all know how that turned out.

There is no person on the face of this planet who I'd trust less than Ed Rogers to hire our new POBO. I literally think a random homeless person would do a more thorough job than Ed. When I say we're going to bring BC back, I'm not joking. I genuinely believe he's on Ed's radar.

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