The Gradey Dick Thread Part 3

[ArthurVandelay]

How shocking was that eh?

Who do we have if Dick goes 1 before?

Is it Cam? Keyonte?

I like both those players, so not a disaster IMO.

Probably would have been Bufkin. Like Dick, he was in for a second workout.

I think our top list (for guys around 13) were

1) Cason
2) Gradey
3) Bufkin

Either way that 2023 draft is looking good so far. Lots of solid role players, maybe a few stars and a generational

I think for realistic targets around 13 that would have been their draft board. Coulibaly also was probably in the mix there too.

Regardless I’m glad it worked out the way it did. Dick is a great fit with Scottie.

[gerrit4]

How shocking was that eh?

Who do we have if Dick goes 1 before?

Is it Cam? Keyonte?

I like both those players, so not a disaster IMO.

Probably would have been Bufkin. Like Dick, he was in for a second workout.

I think our top list (for guys around 13) were

1) Cason
2) Gradey
3) Bufkin

Either way that 2023 draft is looking good so far. Lots of solid role players, maybe a few stars and a generational

That’s the impression I got as well. Knowing we tried to trade up for Cason, I’ll bet we had him higher than 10 on our board.

[Thaddy]

As of now I would take Gradey over Cason. Developing handles is very doable for a former PG. A Gradey with handles and aggressively looking for his shot would be the best player on a team like the Pistons.

[WuTang_CMB]

reggie miller
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[ForeverTFC]

How shocking was that eh?

Who do we have if Dick goes 1 before?

Is it Cam? Keyonte?

I like both those players, so not a disaster IMO.

Probably would have been Bufkin. Like Dick, he was in for a second workout.

I think our top list (for guys around 13) were

1) Cason
2) Gradey
3) Bufkin

Either way that 2023 draft is looking good so far. Lots of solid role players, maybe a few stars and a generational

I think Bobby said they had Gradey in his own tier on their board. Assuming this is true, It's clear he was in a tier higher than Bufkin given both were available, but I wonder if Cason was a tier above or tier below on their board. If I'm a betting man, I say a tier above.

Would be interesting to know where Cam Whitemore was for them. Couldn't have been that high on their board because otherwise they would have rolled the dice, but could have still been above both Cason and Gradey, even if they obviously couldn't pick him where they were sitting without any medicals.

As of now I would take Gradey over Cason. Developing handles is very doable for a former PG. A Gradey with handles and aggressively looking for his shot would be the best player on a team like the Pistons.

I honestly believe Cason has a shot to be the 2nd best player in this draft. I'm high on Gradey but I do think we Raptors fans are probably more bullish right now than we would otherwise be if we hadn't been so starved for a guy with natural offensive feel and talent. We have no comparison for this guy on our own team over the last decade and it probably makes him a more exciting prospect to us with a wider range of outcomes than we'd typically be ready to throw out there for him otherwise.

[shmoosicle]

reggie miller
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That's really impressive considering how poorly he shot to start the season. Things are looking up!

[Hero_Panda]

reggie miller
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That's really impressive considering how poorly he shot to start the season. Things are looking up!

It would be pretty disappointing if Gradey doesn't shoot 50% on 3pters for the rest of the season

[UnbelievablyRAW]

In an alternate universe where we take Keyonte, we might end up keeping OG because IQ wouldn't be as appealing. Probably then only move Siakam. Keyonte still balling btw, but Gradey definitely turned it around a lot sooner than i thought

With the way Gradey started i thought it'd take him 2 years to get stronger before he'd be able to play winning ball. He also looked scared af unless he was wide open. The Duncan Robinson with better passing ceiling I originally thought is a lot lower than I gave him credit for. I think someone here called him a Peja 2.0 which is looking a lot more apt

No idea if Bufkin is good because he never gets a shot

[agkagk]

Like im biased to the point of being blatantly racist by how hesitant i am to believe my eyes— i think this kid might be just below the absolute elite in terms of nba level athleticism

Straight up, if he was black I’d be screaming it from the rooftops, but for now I’m reserving judgment until he fills out and strong enough to absorb contact

Aren't most of us racist in that sense? Especially against white American players. Obviously white Europeans (and Argentinians) have long since proven themselves.

I love the story where Larry Bird was apparently insulted when a white guy was sent out to guard him. Speaking of Larry, I did say on this board a year ago that Gradey had Larry-lite potential. Even early on, I could see Gradey consistently made an impact out there, and used his size well on both ends of the court.

And Larry turned 23 in his rookie season. Gradey turned 20. Just sayin'.

Ya for sure but im specifically referencing gradys physical gifts like im not totally sure, but this kid looks like a superior athletic specimen by nba standards.

Like peja joker luka bird etc — peja’s the only one that looked like he had an nba body!

[OakleyDokely]

Probably would have been Bufkin. Like Dick, he was in for a second workout.

I think our top list (for guys around 13) were

1) Cason
2) Gradey
3) Bufkin

Either way that 2023 draft is looking good so far. Lots of solid role players, maybe a few stars and a generational

I think Bobby said they had Gradey in his own tier on their board. Assuming this is true, It's clear he was in a tier higher than Bufkin given both were available, but I wonder if Cason was a tier above or tier below on their board. If I'm a betting man, I say a tier above.

Would be interesting to know where Cam Whitemore was for them. Couldn't have been that high on their board because otherwise they would have rolled the dice, but could have still been above both Cason and Gradey, even if they obviously couldn't pick him where they were sitting without any medicals.

As of now I would take Gradey over Cason. Developing handles is very doable for a former PG. A Gradey with handles and aggressively looking for his shot would be the best player on a team like the Pistons.

I honestly believe Cason has a shot to be the 2nd best player in this draft. I'm high on Gradey but I do think we Raptors fans are probably more bullish right now than we would otherwise be if we hadn't been so starved for a guy with natural offensive feel and talent. We have no comparison for this guy on our own team over the last decade and it probably makes him a more exciting prospect to us with a wider range of outcomes than we'd typically be ready to throw out there for him otherwise.

I don't think Cam was ever a realistic option because he didn't work out for them and he didn't provide them with medicals.

Cam only provided the top teams with medicals, so once those top teams passed on him, he just kept sliding because nobody in the late lottery / mid 1st had info on him. He was eventually taken by a team who passed on him earlier who did get his medicals (HOU).

Cam and his agent cost themselves millions by withholding info.

[TheGeneral99]

reggie miller
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That's really impressive considering how poorly he shot to start the season. Things are looking up!

Yeah he's up to 37% for the entire season which is already very respectable for any shooter, let alone a rookie.

If he continues what he's been doing he may finish around 38-39%, which would be elite territory.

No reason why he can't be a perennial 40-43% 3 point shooter going forward.

[lobosloboslobos]

reggie miller
https://www.noceilingsnba.com/p/gradey-dick-rise-of-the-beast

great read and even better vids of college gradey, playing exactly like he does now. seriously good shooting and passing.

[Yallbecrazy]

Didn't watch the game tonight, but that was a pretty ugly box score.

[TimeForChange]

he is not a starter but he will be fine coming off the bench next season.

he has too many defensive deficiencies to be a starter. maybe he can make improvements but I don't see it.

[ArthurVandelay]

he is not a starter but he will be fine coming off the bench next season.

he has too many defensive deficiencies to be a starter. maybe he can make improvements but I don't see it.

His deficiencies are due to a lack of experience and strength. Both are correctable. He’s a very smart player. He’ll figure it out.

[TimeForChange]

he is not a starter but he will be fine coming off the bench next season.

he has too many defensive deficiencies to be a starter. maybe he can make improvements but I don't see it.

His deficiencies are due to a lack of experience and strength. Both are correctable. He’s a very smart player. He’ll figure it out.

maybe.

i have always been of the belief that it is easier to mold a rookie with good defensive instincts from college to become a decent offensive player than it is to do the opposite.

and there is nothing wrong with getting a 6th/7th man at 13 in the draft.he will still give you a solid 20-25 minutes a night.

[TimeForChange]

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Darko is exactly right

[MiamiSPX]

Being a starter next season was never in the picture. There is 0% chance that is the plan IMO.

[PD28]

He's hitting the wall a bit as a starter and Darko is right to reign in his minutes a bit.

[SpiderMunn]

On the plus side, he made his first block last-night.