2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3

[bballsparkin]

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Imagine had he played in this era.

[bballsparkin]

But I'd say Edey and Clingan both hurt their draft stock… If we wind up picking at #6, Castle is probably in play there.

I don’t think the game did anything to change Edey’s stock. He did what he did with zero help. Zero.

Clingan on the other hand looked overmatched. Against the bigger, stronger player. Which is going to be who you’re up against 9 out of 10 times in the league.

I want no part of Castle that high. He screams bench player to me. Useful. But disappointing at 6.

Clingan looked overmartched,...against Edey. Does that say more about Edey or Clingan? They both played fine and this game only helped their position. And that's still a blurr.

[Psubs]

I completely forgot about this game, but if what you guys is saying is correct and Edey outmatched Clingan then why exactly is there so much doubt about Edey?

He cooked the defense of the best team in the nation which was completely focused on him, with another defensively focused future NBA Centre guarding him. That should say everything.

Clingan should not be drafted until the 20's. Same for Edey.

#6 Reed Sheppard
#17 Tristan DaSilva
#31 Tidjane Salaun/Ulrich Chomche

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I thought Jack and Sam had it right. Edey is so good a team can make it work. The perimeter coverage thing is real, but so is the need to either cover him with single coverage and risk him punishing the opposition from close in, or forcing a double team which he is great at anticipating. The double gives shooters better looks, more space.

I mean Jakob Poeltl makes this Raptors team better even though he is not overly mobile, has no face-up whatsoever, makes no stretch contribution, and is a worse free throw shooter than Edey. Yak isn't going to get out on the perimeter either, but the Raptors D is better with him on the court. Let's say in the Raptors future least three of the centre's teammates on the floor are 40% 3-pt shooters with quick releases (at least two of them, Quickley and Dick, might well be.) Poeltl is a great screen setter, and when he's out deep a shooter can duck behind his soldi, reliable screen for an open look. Well, Edey looks like he is going to be a super screen setter. He's huge, and spreads his legs apart. He's like a saw horse when he sets a screen. So I believe Edey can be impactful and with three good shooters he ought to create difficult choices for opposing defences.

[BoyzNTheHood]

I know he doesn’t fit the typical archetype for a 6th man, but what if Edey comes off the bench as a 6th or 7th guy?

[Thaddy]

I thought Jack and Sam had it right. Edey is so good a team can make it work. The perimeter coverage thing is real, but so is the need to either cover him with single coverage and risk him punishing the opposition from close in, or forcing a double team which he is great at anticipating. The double gives shooters better looks, more space.

I mean Jakob Poeltl makes this Raptors team better even though he is not overly mobile, has no face-up whatsoever, and is a worse free throw shooter than Edey. He isn't going to get out on the perimeter either, but the Raptors D is better with him on the court. Let's say in the Raptors future least three of the centre's teammates on the floor are 40% 3-pt shooters with quick releases (at least two of them, Quickley and Dick, might well be.) Poeltl is a great screen setter, and when he's out deep a shooter can duck behind his screen for an open look. Well, Edey looks like he is going to be a super screen setter. He's huge, and spreads his legs apart. He's like a saw horse when he sets a screen. So I believe Edey can be impactful and with three good shooters he ought to create difficult choices for opposing defences.

In his rookie season we saw Poeltl provide switch coverage on prime Harden. It didn't look pretty but in the times he saw himself on an island with him he was able to make it work. Poeltl could also run and finish on the break. Remember his poster dunk when he was on the bench mob?

Edey isn't comparable, he has no lateral quickness, he can't bully his way in, the long hook shots looked really ugly today. We can't compare a defensive specialist to an offensive C.

[bballsparkin]

In his rookie season we saw Poeltl provide switch coverage on prime Harden. It didn't look pretty but in the times he saw himself on an island with him he was able to make it work. Poeltl could also run and finish on the break. Remember his poster dunk when he was on the bench mob?

Edey isn't comparable, he has no lateral quickness, he can't bully his way in, the long hook shots looked really ugly today. We can't compare a defensive specialist to an offensive C.

Edey needs to be built around. Poeltl can't do what Edey can. He came in and made Clingan struggle defensively. Spurs should pick him for next to Wemby.

[ItsDanger]

Edey will require a lot of projection because you don't have a lot game action with better players. Not unlike a lot of other draft prospects really. 2 seasons with an unathletic backcourt with next to zero shot creation talent makes it hard.

[Ell Curry]

The game went as expected. Edey dominating Clingan, Castle looking good on D, and UCON winning the game.

But I'd say Edey and Clingan both hurt their draft stock with their performances tonight.

If we wind up picking at #6, Castle is probably in play there.

I think Clingan stayed about the same. He's not a particularly good offensive player but he should be fine on that end and a good defender as he looks a little more fluid when moving than a Kessler and seems to be bigger, if anything. Plays a weirdly low number of minutes. So that's normally like a pick around #10-12 but in this draft should be higher.

[Randle McMurphy]

Edey will be fine in the NBA. The guy didn’t have any help today from the guards and still managed to put up points. He needs to go to the right team. A team with stretch 4 like OKC.

If by fine you mean he will be played off the court defensively by any simple PnR, sure.

[Randle McMurphy]

I completely forgot about this game, but if what you guys is saying is correct and Edey outmatched Clingan then why exactly is there so much doubt about Edey?

He cooked the defense of the best team in the nation which was completely focused on him, with another defensively focused future NBA Centre guarding him. That should say everything.

UConn cooked Edey on screens the entire night. Just wait until actual NBA players get a shot at him and his mobility.

[Randle McMurphy]

Edey will be fine in the NBA. The guy didn’t have any help today from the guards and still managed to put up points. He needs to go to the right team. A team with stretch 4 like OKC.

He is the most polarizing draft candidate I've seen in a long time, some NBA savants see him as Boban, others as Yao. The right team is any team that sees him as the latter, and builds with him. OKC is certainly a candidate, they have the 12th pick right now (from Houston). I'd certainly take him at 17.

Anybody that thinks he is Yao doesn’t have any memory about how skilled a basketball player Yao was.

Regardless, Edey’s biggest issue is that it is 2024 and not 1994. He won’t be able to guard well enough in the modern NBA to stay on the floor for any longer than spot minutes against other bigs. Using a 1st round pick on him would be a tremendous waste.

[OAKLEY_2]

Edey will be fine in the NBA. The guy didn’t have any help today from the guards and still managed to put up points. He needs to go to the right team. A team with stretch 4 like OKC.

He is the most polarizing draft candidate I've seen in a long time, some NBA savants see him as Boban, others as Yao. The right team is any team that sees him as the latter, and builds with him. OKC is certainly a candidate, they have the 12th pick right now (from Houston). I'd certainly take him at 17.

Anybody that thinks he is Yao doesn’t have any memory about how skilled a basketball player Yao was.

Regardless, Edey’s biggest issue is that it is 2024 and not 1994. He won’t be able to guard well enough in the modern NBA to stay on the floor for any longer than spot minutes against other bigs. Using a 1st round pick on him would be a tremendous waste.

Well if we actually keep our 6-4-3-2-1 pick we won't be taking either Edey or Clingan. Not with Jak and Kelly in the fold.

[RoteSchroder]

He is the most polarizing draft candidate I've seen in a long time, some NBA savants see him as Boban, others as Yao. The right team is any team that sees him as the latter, and builds with him. OKC is certainly a candidate, they have the 12th pick right now (from Houston). I'd certainly take him at 17.

Anybody that thinks he is Yao doesn’t have any memory about how skilled a basketball player Yao was.

Regardless, Edey’s biggest issue is that it is 2024 and not 1994. He won’t be able to guard well enough in the modern NBA to stay on the floor for any longer than spot minutes against other bigs. Using a 1st round pick on him would be a tremendous waste.

Well if we actually keep our 6-4-3-2-1 pick we won't be taking either Edey or Clingan. Not with Jak and Kelly in the fold.

We do need a C that can anchor the defense and go up against the large NBA centers like Embiid/Jokic and/or handle the tall lanky guys. Olynyk isn’t much of an defender and Poeltl’s bit injury prone, limited offensively and we need a back-up anyways

So a C is definitely on the priority list. It’s just that Clinton/Edey aren’t ideal candidates. Even Sarr isn’t that good and won’t be able to handle large C’s. Sarr off the bench as a PF might work

[HumbleRen]

I’m fine with Edey as long as we don’t use the Pacers pick on him.

If he’s not there with the Pistons pick, it is what it is.

[Yallbecrazy]

I completely forgot about this game, but if what you guys is saying is correct and Edey outmatched Clingan then why exactly is there so much doubt about Edey?

He cooked the defense of the best team in the nation which was completely focused on him, with another defensively focused future NBA Centre guarding him. That should say everything.

His defence looked terrible. Uconn was getting lobs over him, he couldn't defend guards getting into the paint. He looked extremely slow out there and a liability.

[Duffman100]

I’m fine with Edey as long as we don’t use the Pacers pick on him.

If he’s not there with the Pistons pick, it is what it is.

His foot speed is concerning. And his over reliance on that right hand hook (he does have a counter).

I can’t see him being much more than a 20 minute guy. NBA defenses are going to put him action constantly.

Rooting for him but a little worried.

[Yallbecrazy]

I thought Jack and Sam had it right. Edey is so good a team can make it work. The perimeter coverage thing is real, but so is the need to either cover him with single coverage and risk him punishing the opposition from close in, or forcing a double team which he is great at anticipating. The double gives shooters better looks, more space.

I mean Jakob Poeltl makes this Raptors team better even though he is not overly mobile, has no face-up whatsoever, makes no stretch contribution, and is a worse free throw shooter than Edey. Yak isn't going to get out on the perimeter either, but the Raptors D is better with him on the court. Let's say in the Raptors future least three of the centre's teammates on the floor are 40% 3-pt shooters with quick releases (at least two of them, Quickley and Dick, might well be.) Poeltl is a great screen setter, and when he's out deep a shooter can duck behind his soldi, reliable screen for an open look. Well, Edey looks like he is going to be a super screen setter. He's huge, and spreads his legs apart. He's like a saw horse when he sets a screen. So I believe Edey can be impactful and with three good shooters he ought to create difficult choices for opposing defences.

Can we stop the Poeltl slander? He's a very poor shooter, but a much better passer and what makes him good defensively is his movement. He is legit one of the quickest bigs with the best lateral movement the last decade. Edey and Clingan will be some of the slowest. They do have probably 7-10 inches of wingspan on Poeltl though.

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[aminiaturebuddha]

I completely forgot about this game, but if what you guys is saying is correct and Edey outmatched Clingan then why exactly is there so much doubt about Edey?

He cooked the defense of the best team in the nation which was completely focused on him, with another defensively focused future NBA Centre guarding him. That should say everything.

His defence looked terrible. Uconn was getting lobs over him, he couldn't defend guards getting into the paint. He looked extremely slow out there and a liability.

We all know his limitations on that end, but to be fair, I think tonight was a bit of a worst case scenario in that vein because Purdue's guards were getting cooked all night long. On almost every possession they were trailing their cover coming downhill from the top of the arc due to UConn's actions and the lack of athleticism of Purdue's guards. I'm not sure I saw them fight through a screen all night.

So in the first half, Edey stayed back in his drop coverage and guys like Newton and Spencer hit a bunch of floaters against him. It seems one of the few adjustments that Painter made at the half was to have Edey take a couple of steps out on those plays, and they ended up throwing those lobs against him. We all know Edey isn't a mobile defender, and players like Wenby or Jarrett Allen could have handled that stuff much better, but I'm also not entirely sure what he was supposed to do when he was playing 1-against-2 defence almost all night.