With the 31st pick, the Raptors select Jonathan Mogbo

[pilkoids]

His motor alone excites me. Like i said in another thread he gives me kenneth faried vibes

[TGM]

I think the Celtics have shown that the NBA is transitioning to a new type of era for winners. Look at OKC and Knicks and how they are built. Two way players are becoming way more valuable. Celtics, Knicks, Wolves and OKC all have two guys that are defensive first or second team. Int he Celtics and Knick’s case their two guys have strong offense as well. For those that play competitive ball you will appreciate how much tougher it is to get off shots on strong perimeter defenders. Completely takes you off your game. So the GS days of just out sore your opponents is gone. Masai is a visionary and his vision of long armed two way players is the right model. This is why guys like Smith, Furphy or Flip were not as high on our radar.

[TheDunc]

Anytime you draft a great athlete with good size and a great motor, i think theirs a huge chance for success. Now add to that hes a good passer, rebounder and defender too, the probability goes up higher.

The x factor is If he can develop a 3 point shot i think he can be a contributor on a winning team. Now if he cant develop his shot then his ceiling probably tops out as a bench player but i can still see him being an NBA player

[MEDIC]

I gotta be honest - I'm not a huge fan of the pick. I'm rather sick and tired of the Raptors drafting projects instead of just picking the guy who can come in and do what you're looking for him to do.

Unless this was simply to please Scottie, I have to give it a C. Simpson, Mitchell, Crawford & Igodaro were still on the board.

That said, I do wish the kid well and I hope that Bobby and Masai know what they're doing with this pick.

I feel the same. I think they will regret passing on Filipowski, who fell. Every time the Raps have passed on the obvious pick who fell (Iggy, Granger, etc), it looked bad down the road.

I was hoping to come away with Filipowski, Oso, Furphy and/ or Djursic.

At least this guy looks like he will be fun to watch. If he can develop a 3 point shot, he has a chance to be our OG replacement.

[douggood]

I gotta be honest - I'm not a huge fan of the pick. I'm rather sick and tired of the Raptors drafting projects instead of just picking the guy who can come in and do what you're looking for him to do.

Unless this was simply to please Scottie, I have to give it a C. Simpson, Mitchell, Crawford & Igodaro were still on the board.

That said, I do wish the kid well and I hope that Bobby and Masai know what they're doing with this pick.

I feel the same. I think they will regret passing on Filipowski, who fell. Every time the Raps have passed on the obvious pick who fell (Iggy, Granger, etc), it looked bad down the road.

I was hoping to come away with Filipowski, Oso, Furphy and/ or Djursic.

At least this guy looks like he will be fun to watch. If he can develop a 3 point shot, he has a chance to be our OG replacement.

of course the names who panned out come to your mind, how about all the flops that also fell the the raptors passed on. not many come to mind cause they flopped but players like skal lassabier. tyrell terry etc

[OakleyDokely]

I don't believe Filipowski will be good enough defensively to be able play important minutes in the NBA. Along with this whole controversy, I'm glad they passed.

[JShuttlesworth]

Not surprised by the pick, because he was on the workout list

Masai generally seems to be drawn to these raw but talented type of players. He's got a solid handle, seems like a decent (and willing) passer, I think he'll be a nice addition on the fast break, and he plays with a lot of energy. We got ourselves a hustle big, albeit an undersized one. He's going to be valuable to our team defensively, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in the rotation getting minutes next to Kelly O.

But Mogbo is not a wing player offensively, I don't know why I keep seeing people list him as a SF on our depth chart. His jumper is pretty much non-existent at this point, and he took only two 3's in his entire college career. In general, if you watch him, he plays like an energy big. I'm not really thinking about 3-pointers at this point, maybe just adding a consistent 15-17 footer to keep the defense honest.

He's a baller, I just wish he was a little bit taller. He measured 6' 6.25'' with a 7' 2.00'' wingspan. That wingspan is nice, but he's the same height as Gradey

[TheDunc]

I gotta be honest - I'm not a huge fan of the pick. I'm rather sick and tired of the Raptors drafting projects instead of just picking the guy who can come in and do what you're looking for him to do.

Unless this was simply to please Scottie, I have to give it a C. Simpson, Mitchell, Crawford & Igodaro were still on the board.

That said, I do wish the kid well and I hope that Bobby and Masai know what they're doing with this pick.

I feel the same. I think they will regret passing on Filipowski, who fell. Every time the Raps have passed on the obvious pick who fell (Iggy, Granger, etc), it looked bad down the road.

I was hoping to come away with Filipowski, Oso, Furphy and/ or Djursic.

At least this guy looks like he will be fun to watch. If he can develop a 3 point shot, he has a chance to be our OG replacement.

How much better is Filipowski then a guy like Frank Kaminsky? I feel like these type of players need to have the makings of a 20 ppg player if they want any chance at surviving in the league

[TheDunc]

Not surprised by the pick, because he was on the workout list

Masai generally seems to be drawn to these raw but talented type of players. He's got a solid handle, seems like a decent (and willing) passer, I think he'll be a nice addition on the fast break, and he plays with a lot of energy. We got ourselves a hustle big, albeit an undersized one. He's going to be valuable to our team defensively, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in the rotation getting minutes next to Kelly O.

But Mogbo is not a wing player offensively, I don't know why I keep seeing people list him as a SF on our depth chart. His jumper is pretty much non-existent at this point, and he took only two 3's in his entire college career. In general, if you watch him, he plays like an energy big. I'm not really thinking about 3-pointers at this point, maybe just adding a consistent 15-17 footer to keep the defense honest.

He's a baller, I just wish he was a little bit taller. He measured 6' 6.25'' with a 7' 2.00'' wingspan. That wingspan is nice, but he's the same height as Gradey

Hes got a taller standing reach then Bam Adebayo and a very similar athlete. Plus hes really about 6'7.5 in shoes and all prior NBA players heights are listed with shoes.

Hes definitely not a natural SF but i believe he can easily guard them so the question is can he develop a 3 point shot? Because if he can then that can open up a driving game for him and it might be a fit beside Scottie Barnes in the future

[And1Skip]

Not surprised by the pick, because he was on the workout list

Masai generally seems to be drawn to these raw but talented type of players. He's got a solid handle, seems like a decent (and willing) passer, I think he'll be a nice addition on the fast break, and he plays with a lot of energy. We got ourselves a hustle big, albeit an undersized one. He's going to be valuable to our team defensively, and I wouldn't be surprised if we see him in the rotation getting minutes next to Kelly O.

But Mogbo is not a wing player offensively, I don't know why I keep seeing people list him as a SF on our depth chart. His jumper is pretty much non-existent at this point, and he took only two 3's in his entire college career. In general, if you watch him, he plays like an energy big. I'm not really thinking about 3-pointers at this point, maybe just adding a consistent 15-17 footer to keep the defense honest.

He's a baller, I just wish he was a little bit taller. He measured 6' 6.25'' with a 7' 2.00'' wingspan. That wingspan is nice, but he's the same height as Gradey

Hes got a taller standing reach then Bam Adebayo and a very similar athlete. Plus hes really about 6'7.5 in shoes and all prior NBA players heights are listed with shoes.

Hes definitely not a natural SF but i believe he can easily guard them so the question is can he develop a 3 point shot? Because if he can then that can open up a driving game for him and it might be a fit beside Scottie Barnes in the future

His story is very intriguing that I'd like to learn more about. From being a 5'9" PG in high school and then all of a sudden getting a huge growth spurt - that's not normally the path of many other NBA players who get the growth spurt much earlier in their lives, so we tend to see the better ball handlers as SFs. For Mogbo, it seems that he had a harder time dealing with the transition to his new frame on his shot and thus, he decided to be more of a PF/C than a SG/SF. Unfortunately dont have stats from his JC days but from his 2 years in college his FT% went from 43% to 69% which does tell me his improving a lot and may be a sign of things to come. His size is fine for PF for the role he'll play, especially once he gets even stronger. He has the same height and wingspan as Draymond but not as strong as him at the lower base it seems.

[gha4life]

I think Adem bona would have been my choice but will give him a chance

[OakleyDokely]

that couch wingspan....

[TeamDisgruntled]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

[OakleyDokely]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

He's not undersized, he's 6'8 in shoes with a 7'2 wingspan. He can dribble and it lead to many transition break opportunities and off the dribble dunks. And he was one of the best passing bigmen in the NCAA last year (5+ assists per 40). He can't shoot, that's correct.

[TeamDisgruntled]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

He's not undersized, he's 6'8 in shoes with a 7'2 wingspan. He can dribble and lead many transition break opportunities. And he was one of the best passing bigmen in the NCAA last year (5+ assists per 40). He can't shoot, that's correct.

Maybe I’m wrong about the passing, we’ll see if he can pass outside of his farmers league competition. I haven’t seen any ability to beat a guy off the dribble in any highlight packages which leads me to believe he won’t be much off the bounce in the NBA. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it. Im being grumpy about it, I am team disgruntled afterall.

[OakleyDokely]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

He's not undersized, he's 6'8 in shoes with a 7'2 wingspan. He can dribble and lead many transition break opportunities. And he was one of the best passing bigmen in the NCAA last year (5+ assists per 40). He can't shoot, that's correct.

Maybe I’m wrong about the passing, we’ll see if he can pass outside of his farmers league competition. I haven’t seen any ability to beat a guy off the dribble in any highlight packages which leads me to believe he won’t be much off the bounce in the NBA. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it. Im being grumpy about it, I am team disgruntled afterall.

He was a 5'9 guard at one point who had a growth spurt late, so he has many guard like instincts in terms of his dribble/passing/playmaking. He's actually an ideal modern jumbo wing / smallball big, minus the shooting of course.

[LBJKB24MJ23]

i love his motor and determination. he looks very agile and nimble.

[Yallbecrazy]

I don't believe Filipowski will be good enough defensively to be able play important minutes in the NBA. Along with this whole controversy, I'm glad they passed.

As a starting 5 probably not, but as a 4 or bench 5? He seems fairly quick and smart on the defensive end. Had a 4.5 dBPM as a sophomore which is pretty good and almost double that of both Missi and Ware. He seems like a smart player who knows where to be on the defensive end which is more important than wingspan or vertical. He got a lot of steals and is still 7'0.

edit: his dBPM was higher than Edey, Oso, Holmes and tied with Bona. Only Clingan had a higher one for big men.

[grant101]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

He's not undersized, he's 6'8 in shoes with a 7'2 wingspan. He can dribble and lead many transition break opportunities. And he was one of the best passing bigmen in the NCAA last year (5+ assists per 40). He can't shoot, that's correct.

Maybe I’m wrong about the passing, we’ll see if he can pass outside of his farmers league competition. I haven’t seen any ability to beat a guy off the dribble in any highlight packages which leads me to believe he won’t be much off the bounce in the NBA. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it. Im being grumpy about it, I am team disgruntled afterall.

The WCC is a decent league with a few really good teams (Gonzaga & St. Mary's in particular). Also, not sure what film you were watching cause he got to the rim off the bounce quite a bit (frequently leading to dunks) and did so without much spacing.

[ForeverTFC]

Undersized 23 yr old who can’t shoot, can’t dribble, can’t pass… whats not to love? In a league filling up with unicorns let’s draft a 6 6’ centre.

He's not undersized, he's 6'8 in shoes with a 7'2 wingspan. He can dribble and lead many transition break opportunities. And he was one of the best passing bigmen in the NCAA last year (5+ assists per 40). He can't shoot, that's correct.

Maybe I’m wrong about the passing, we’ll see if he can pass outside of his farmers league competition. I haven’t seen any ability to beat a guy off the dribble in any highlight packages which leads me to believe he won’t be much off the bounce in the NBA. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it. Im being grumpy about it, I am team disgruntled afterall.

Well you’re watching the wrong highlights. You don’t put up his assists numbers without being able to pass, regardless of the competition. And you don’t lead the NCAA in dunks if you cant beat your man and get to the rim.