PG: BENCH SLOBS SHART THE COURT

[Mack11]

The nuggets lost the last 2 games so its not a surprise they came out swinging. How many open shots did we miss though? we need shooters in the worst way and big men and a pg.. ok we're better than last year which isnt saying much but this team isnt even close to competing yet with this poorly constructed roster

[Tha Cynic]

Shouldn't be focused on the record because that does not tell the whole story all the time...Or where the level a team is at and their actual upside at being successfull when it matters against actual good teams....You got to take in account....We have one of the worst offensive ratings in the league, While also losing to teams like Nuggets (GLeague level team), Nets, Wizards....Took everything to go absolutly perfect to beat a mid Magic team who are missing Franz/Suggs....

We got off to a hot start but when you really break down the teams we beat...It gets dicey...

W Hawks
W Cavs (Without Mitchell/Garland/Allen)
W Grizzlies (Without Morant)
W Bucks
W Hawks (Without Trae)
W Nets
W Cavs (Struggling team)
W Pacers
W Hornets (Went to the last shot)
W 76ers (Without Embiid)
W Wizards
W Heat
W Nets
W Cavs
W Pacers (Came down to a game winner)
W Blazers
W Heat
W Bucks (No Giannis)
W Warriors
W Magic

L Bucks
L Mavs
L Spurs
L Rockets
L 76ers
L Hornets
L Knicks (Blown Out)
L Lakers
L Hornets (Blown Out)
L Knicks
L Celtics
L Celtics
L Nets Lol
L Wizards Lol
L Nuggets (Gleague Squad)

To me if you actually break it down if you want to give Raptors an applause on the season we can say we beat the Cavs every matchup (One where they were missing 3 starters) but they are also having a really bad year overall....And we beat the Heat....Other than that we have no real impressive wins on the season against an actual good team in the league so far.....We have been beating up on basement dwelling tanking teams so far outside of Magic/Cavs/Heat all 3 of them in the East are also having down years as well and been injured....

Until we look like we can hang in there with the actual top tier teams in the league (Have no evidence of it yet) And we stop losing to G-League tanking rosters we can't really bragg about our record without doing a deeper dive into things and realize the big glaring flaws we have..

I know we have missed Yak for alot of games but unless i see a healthy Yak on the court with no issues and the team is actually going head to head with the actual good teams in the NBA and looking decent in the process i will not praise the Record that much because come playoff time the Record won't mean jack **** and if we play an actual good NBA team in a 7 game series these flaws we see will be exposed and we will have no chance to win...

You really hate the Raptors lmao. Every win is fake and every loss is real.

Facts and interpretation was presented but the reply is just emotion.

The interpretation by the original poster was also just all emotion. All his comments were heavily biased and skewed to his ow interpretation that he doesn’t like this roster. Makes some random comment about Yak and ignores it as if it means nothing lol. Pretends RJ injured doesn’t mean anything.

This isn’t a video game sim where injuries means the other team just automatically wins. **** happens. You can’t take posters like that seriously because it shows they live in a sim world rather than the real world.

Biggest thing - apparently the big jump the team has taken after the lottery team he wanted them to be means nothing. Ignores that a team with a better record than the team he wanted tanking ended up with the #1 pick. Zero sense in the entire post

[Tha Cynic]

Still can’t believe we lost a game to a team with 4 missing starters that started JV in 2025.

Might fr be the worst L I’ve seen in the last 2 years lol.

It’s an 82 game season. Unless you’re an elite team, it happens all the time to other teams. I was chuckling when I read the beginning of the game day thread how the Raptors need to win this one because it seemed like the type of game they would lose.

What does this one game mean? Absolutely nothing. You take what you can from the entire season.

Starters are good
Bench is inconsistent and needs help
This team badly needs rotation players who can hit open shots
Need another legit big man who can play
Coaching is bad to mediocre
What development had been achieved by coaching staff?
IQ cannot run this team

Oh and this is a pretty new version with Ingram and no NBA trades have been made yet. No one was expecting this team to be some contender. This roster will be adjusted on the fly. Makes sense they’re not just jumping into trades. Pretty sure Bobby understands this is not a championship team

[ArthurVandelay]

Don’t care what they do with other teams lmao.

We lost a game we had 0 business losing.

But we had business losing it because we lost it.

You can't both complain that we're a meh team and at the same time complain that we lost a game like that. That's what meh teams do.

At the end of the day, we're a 40-47 win team that will likely be somewhere between 5-8 seed. Teams like that lose games like Denver and Washington.

That’s what undisciplined teams do.

None of these points are mutually exclusive from HR, Duffman, or tripod

They just aren’t that good of a team at this point. It’s a continuing work in progress that will continue to frustrate as long as the roster remains unbalanced, young guys aren’t showing noticeable improvements, and players don’t play up to contract expectations.

[canada_dry]

Don’t care what they do with other teams lmao.

We lost a game we had 0 business losing.

But we had business losing it because we lost it.

You can't both complain that we're a meh team and at the same time complain that we lost a game like that. That's what meh teams do.

At the end of the day, we're a 40-47 win team that will likely be somewhere between 5-8 seed. Teams like that lose games like Denver and Washington.

That’s what undisciplined teams do.

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

[Chris7711]

Noticed cmb missing alot of bunnies and or put backs that becomes the difference at the end of regulation...weak on free throws, as well..has lots of positive attributes, especially defense and rebounding, but needs to put in those easy layups or dunks..alot of them bounce off the rim, either too hard or too soft..not sure if its a confidence issue and He panicks and rushes, resulting in misses..If he fixes this part, free throws then will be a monster

[HumbleRen]

But we had business losing it because we lost it.

You can't both complain that we're a meh team and at the same time complain that we lost a game like that. That's what meh teams do.

At the end of the day, we're a 40-47 win team that will likely be somewhere between 5-8 seed. Teams like that lose games like Denver and Washington.

That’s what undisciplined teams do.

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

I welcome this. I rather see this than people try to make excuses as to why we lost last night.

FT disparity, refs, that’s all hogwash lol.

[ItsDanger]

You really hate the Raptors lmao. Every win is fake and every loss is real.

Facts and interpretation was presented but the reply is just emotion.

The interpretation by the original poster was also just all emotion. All his comments were heavily biased and skewed to his ow interpretation that he doesn’t like this roster. Makes some random comment about Yak and ignores it as if it means nothing lol. Pretends RJ injured doesn’t mean anything.

This isn’t a video game sim where injuries means the other team just automatically wins. **** happens. You can’t take posters like that seriously because it shows they live in a sim world rather than the real world.

Biggest thing - apparently the big jump the team has taken after the lottery team he wanted them to be means nothing. Ignores that a team with a better record than the team he wanted tanking ended up with the #1 pick. Zero sense in the entire post

Hardly. The post presented an argument that the current record could be misleading. The subsequent interpretation is more feelings based.

The reality is we don't really know how good or bad the team is. Especially as many other teams are in similar situations.

[ConSarnit]

But we had business losing it because we lost it.

You can't both complain that we're a meh team and at the same time complain that we lost a game like that. That's what meh teams do.

At the end of the day, we're a 40-47 win team that will likely be somewhere between 5-8 seed. Teams like that lose games like Denver and Washington.

That’s what undisciplined teams do.

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

Here comes the “if we tank we’ll learn losing habits” argument again.

Here are some of the most aggressive tanking teams over the past 4-5 years:

OKC
DET
HOU
SAS

How come none of those teams have “losing” habits?

News flash: it’s not losing habits. It’s lack of talent.

[Duffman100]

Facts and interpretation was presented but the reply is just emotion.

The interpretation by the original poster was also just all emotion. All his comments were heavily biased and skewed to his ow interpretation that he doesn’t like this roster. Makes some random comment about Yak and ignores it as if it means nothing lol. Pretends RJ injured doesn’t mean anything.

This isn’t a video game sim where injuries means the other team just automatically wins. **** happens. You can’t take posters like that seriously because it shows they live in a sim world rather than the real world.

Biggest thing - apparently the big jump the team has taken after the lottery team he wanted them to be means nothing. Ignores that a team with a better record than the team he wanted tanking ended up with the #1 pick. Zero sense in the entire post

Hardly. The post presented an argument that the current record could be misleading. The subsequent interpretation is more feelings based.

The reality is we don't really know how good or bad the team is. Especially as many other teams are in similar situations.

When the argument is presented from one side, ignoring other factors, to preserve a narrative that this poster has been pushing it's either a) emotional or b) disengenous

[ConSarnit]

Noticed cmb missing alot of bunnies and or put backs that becomes the difference at the end of regulation...weak on free throws, as well..has lots of positive attributes, especially defense and rebounding, but needs to put in those easy layups or dunks..alot of them bounce off the rim, either too hard or too soft..not sure if its a confidence issue and He panicks and rushes, resulting in misses..If he fixes this part, free throws then will be a monster

Should be a fixable issue. Finishing tends to be one of the easiest attributes for young players to improve. The level of rim protection in the NBA is a massive jump from the SEC so CMB just needs some time to adjust.

[Tha Cynic]

Facts and interpretation was presented but the reply is just emotion.

The interpretation by the original poster was also just all emotion. All his comments were heavily biased and skewed to his ow interpretation that he doesn’t like this roster. Makes some random comment about Yak and ignores it as if it means nothing lol. Pretends RJ injured doesn’t mean anything.

This isn’t a video game sim where injuries means the other team just automatically wins. **** happens. You can’t take posters like that seriously because it shows they live in a sim world rather than the real world.

Biggest thing - apparently the big jump the team has taken after the lottery team he wanted them to be means nothing. Ignores that a team with a better record than the team he wanted tanking ended up with the #1 pick. Zero sense in the entire post

Hardly. The post presented an argument that the current record could be misleading. The subsequent interpretation is more feelings based.

The reality is we don't really know how good or bad the team is. Especially as many other teams are in similar situations.

The post downplays wins with either some sort of excuse for the other team or an LOL as if teams don’t lose to bad teams. It also underscores injuries to the raptors by not mentioning them and emphasizes injuries to the opponent.

It was not a post that should be taken seriously. It was basically an emotional post showing the poster does not like the Raptors. Not even sure what the poster was trying to get across. Fold the team? Tank year after year like the Wizards until you get lucky? Fire everyone? Were the Raptors supposed to miraculously become a contender half a season after tanking? Like I said - the post was not based on reality

Seems more like a troll post that screamed - haha you guys suck

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

I think we should stop giving Dick minutes, give more to Battle and look at adjusting the IQ role, to have Shead play with Starters and have IQ gun of bench and play as small 2 guard 6th man.

[Tha Cynic]

That’s what undisciplined teams do.

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

Here comes the “if we tank we’ll learn losing habits” argument again.

Here are some of the most aggressive tanking teams over the past 4-5 years:

OKC
DET
HOU
SAS

How come none of those teams have “losing” habits?

News flash: it’s not losing habits. It’s lack of talent.

The Raptors are 20-15. That’s a pretty big jump over last season.

What poster said is valid. For the young guys, this is the first time the team is actually trying to win and they’re the ones struggling the most.

The teams above went though growing pains too.

[Duffman100]

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

Here comes the “if we tank we’ll learn losing habits” argument again.

Here are some of the most aggressive tanking teams over the past 4-5 years:

OKC
DET
HOU
SAS

How come none of those teams have “losing” habits?

News flash: it’s not losing habits. It’s lack of talent.

The Raptors are 20-15. That’s a pretty big jump over last season.

What poster said is valid. For the young guys, this is the first time the team is actually trying to win and they’re the ones struggling the most.

The teams above went though growing pains too.

We're on pace to win 47 games. With many people, outlets, journalists predicting us to win like 38-40 at most.

But of course if all of these wins are 'fake wins' then it's all moot.

[ArthurVandelay]

Noticed cmb missing alot of bunnies and or put backs that becomes the difference at the end of regulation...weak on free throws, as well..has lots of positive attributes, especially defense and rebounding, but needs to put in those easy layups or dunks..alot of them bounce off the rim, either too hard or too soft..not sure if its a confidence issue and He panicks and rushes, resulting in misses..If he fixes this part, free throws then will be a monster

One of the missed putbacks last night was actually just a tremendous play from Holmes. Holmes blocked the putbacks spectacularly with perfect timing and anticipation.

I think all of this will come together for CMB with continued strength and conditioning. The fact he puts himself in position to miss the putbacks and bunnies is the part you can’t teach.

[ConSarnit]

We are undisciplined. We're a team that was tanking last year and trying to win this year. We let losing habits slide last year and are hoping to miraculously not have them pop up just months later. Welcome to reality, boys.

Here comes the “if we tank we’ll learn losing habits” argument again.

Here are some of the most aggressive tanking teams over the past 4-5 years:

OKC
DET
HOU
SAS

How come none of those teams have “losing” habits?

News flash: it’s not losing habits. It’s lack of talent.

The Raptors are 20-15. That’s a pretty big jump over last season.

What poster said is valid. For the young guys, this is the first time the team is actually trying to win and they’re the ones struggling the most.

The teams above went though growing pains too.

Sorry, I don’t buy it at all that these guys are playing bad because they are trying unlearn bad habits due to losing. Youth, sure, that plays a part.

Both Dick and Agabji were playing better last year when we were actually losing. Shead was scoring better. What losing habits do you think these guys are showing this year?

By and large a lot of these guys issues would be solved by hitting a few more wide open shots. What does that have to do with losing habits?

[ConSarnit]

Here comes the “if we tank we’ll learn losing habits” argument again.

Here are some of the most aggressive tanking teams over the past 4-5 years:

OKC
DET
HOU
SAS

How come none of those teams have “losing” habits?

News flash: it’s not losing habits. It’s lack of talent.

The Raptors are 20-15. That’s a pretty big jump over last season.

What poster said is valid. For the young guys, this is the first time the team is actually trying to win and they’re the ones struggling the most.

The teams above went though growing pains too.

We're on pace to win 47 games. With many people, outlets, journalists predicting us to win like 38-40 at most.

But of course if all of these wins are 'fake wins' then it's all moot.

Where did I say anything about fake wins?

[Troubadour]

This season reminds me of the 2014-2015 season in that I think this team will show their true colours over the second half of the season.

That's the one where Lou Williams was dating two girls at the same time, our end of quarter offense was a Lou Williams iso every time because be hit one early in the season. Amir Johnson started dating a friend of the Lou will by girls, they started hot the. Played .500 ball for months heading into the playoffs, to become the first team to ever get swept when having home court advantage in the playoffs.

After which, all of coach Casey's assistants were fired and new ones hired by the front office, rather than just pounding his rock right out the door

Yes, the very same

[HiJiNX]

Darko lost that game last night. The starting lineup made no sense. We started the second half with a different lineup and looked good. Then he throws out another weird lineup to end the fourth. Then during the fourth he finds a lineup that’s working and sits Barnes who you could argue needed a rest based on the amount of consecutive minutes he played but that was split in the middle by the change of quarters. Even if you sit Barnes when he did, you had Barnes at the scorers table for almost three minutes watching your team flounder with 3 timeouts. Use one to get him back on the court. And why is Walter out there to close? He was playing terribly all game on both ends. It made no sense to keep him out there. Why sit Battle when his gravity was opening up our offence? Just a lot of very poor coaching decisions last night.

On a different note, this team plays better when we keep the ball away from IQ running the offence. We look so much better when Shead/Ingram/Barnes/RJ are running our possessions.