Yahoo/Sportsnet: J. O

[Nessah]

they had a BREAKING NEWS interruption on 680 news 5 minutes ago for this "trade in principle"

Wow...BC has balls! I think Chris will be happy.

[booyah_child]

I said this on Monday and will say it again: Jermaine is EXACTLY what this team needs. A defensive minded shotblocker/rebounder who is in his Prime. (based on his age) If i could have picked one guy in the league who was actually attainable it would have to be this guy.

It hurts to lose TJ. On the other hand, Jose was the better point guard. Ill never forget TJ's monster 5 game run in 05-06 against Portland-Seattle-Minnesota when he carried the team while Bosh was out. I'll miss him and certainly moniter Pacer games to see how he does.

Today we took a step toward competing with Boston-Orlando-Detroit. WE finally have a REAL CENTER!!! From Bradley-Mccoy-Mosio-Hoffa-Woods-Bargnani to Jermaine is an upgrade that cant even be calculated.

Didn't people say he was unhappy with playing the 5?

[notic101]

Good luck to both Rasho and TJ, hope they have success in Indiana and elsewhere they go, they helped establish a favourable culture in the Raptorland the past two seasons, and I appreciate their contributions, controversy aside.

Welcome to TO, JO, let the t-shirt sales commence.

[douggood]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

for the same reason the raps didnt keep vince, sometimes you have to move forward.

[s e n s i]

I'm f'n excited.

Jose/Roko
AP
Moon/Kapono
Bosh/Bargs/Hump
O'Neal/Bargs

We instantly go from having one of the softest frontcourts in the league to having one of the most feared. If Bargs steps up his play and averages say 15-6 off the bench, I think we should be in the top half of the conference regardless if we get that wing player or not. I know 3 bigs might not be enough in the long run, but who says BC is done dealing after this. My guess is he'll still try and acquire a solid rotation wing, and possibly another servicable big other than Hump, like a vet or something.

[|llsT oNe]

I wonder what happened to revive the trade and if BC caved with the pick. I hope we buy a pick in the 20's, ala Portland.

[Bank Shot]

Baston or humphries ? hmmm only time will tell.

So no late second rounder coming back ?

Pleeeeeeaaaasssseeeeee be Baston. I don't want to have Bargs as our only back-up big. If not Baston then hopefully Joey, I really want to keep Hump.

[Vinsane15]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

I think he probably told Larry Bird that he needs a new change in life and he is tired of living in Indiana...

[raps4life~]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

wow that makes a load of sense.

[Raptors90102]

What are the expections? From this board?

I want 77 games, 19 points (because Bosh will still be the leading scorer at 22-23 a game) 11 rpg (what we NEED badly), 1.5 bpg, and a good 37-39 minutes a game.

Almost positive this isn't going to happen. He isn't going to get the number of shots he took in Indiana, and that might not be a bad thing considering his offensive efficiency.

Here is my bet:
14.5/8.5/1.5 on 47% shooting (from a smaller workload) in 33 minutes a game. With good defense.

Bryan will also have to GET IT THROUGH SAM'S HEAD that he can't ride Jermaine like he rode Bosh this past season. His body will simply break down.

+ a gazillion!

Sam will HAVE to ride JO hard cuz right at this moment, we don't have any other bigs besides the wildly inconsistent bargnani and humphries to back em up. None of them can play centre and none of them can be consistent.

I would be all for moving Kapono to the backup SG spot, play Moon at SF and if somehow we can land Charlie V for cheap, get him to play backup SF and PF. Something like this:

Jose (34) / Roko (14) / Vet PG
AP (28) / Kapono (14) / Roko (6)
Moon (28) / Kapono (8) / Charlie (12)
Bosh (34) / Charlie (14) / Hump
JO (30) / Bargnani (18) / Hump

Play Bargnani STRICTLY at Center and play him inside. Force him to play inside and if not, you always have Hump to step in. I agree that Defense will be a crapshoot with Charlie and Kapono on the floor, but charlie can rebound and play inside-out. Will be cheap as well.

[ShaqSlamsU]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

Maybe he wanted out? Who knows?

[sh00n]

Baston or humphries ? hmmm only time will tell.

So no late second rounder coming back ?

Pleeeeeeaaaasssseeeeee be Baston. I don't want to have Bargs as our only back-up big. If not Baston then hopefully Joey, I really want to keep Hump.

For another trade.

[Nessah]

Charlie Villanueva for TJ Ford
TJ Ford for Jermaine O'Neal
......
CV for JO

[bakafool]

If the 17th isn't included I would be happy and jumping for joy. If it was, I'd still be happy. Hopefully Hump isn't included as well.

[5DOM]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

because they are getting assets back;

tj ford who is a top 10-15 PG
expiring contract in rasho
#17 pick.

[booyah_child]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

Maybe they want to start rebuilding already, and don't want to deal with him anymore.

[garbage time]

I'm thinking this makes Raptors among the elite in the East.. That's of course provided O'Neal doesn't become unhappy in T.O or has another injury etc..

[Yosemite Dan]

I don't like this trade at all and had this been proposed last year at this time most of you would have agreed. The need to get rid of Ford should not cloud the Raps judgement because we will be lucky to get 50-60 games out of Jermaine and with Bosh's questionable durability there is a strong chance that next season blows up in our faces and we are a lottery team. This seems like a deal Isiah Thomas would make. Jermaine has one bad wonky knee that's just gonna get worse and don't delude yourself because when you are that big and heavy and have had multiple problems with the same knee it slows you down considerably even when you are supposedly healthy.

This reminds me of the excitement when the 76ers got Webber. Much ado about a player who has clearly seen better days and is on a downward slope. We need some perimeter defence in the worst way and given the fragile health of O'Neal at this point he is not much of an upgrade over Rasho and will play less games. So basically we gave away Ford and the 17th pick for free. Seems like a desperation move by BC because there's nothing else he can do.

[sh00n]

You guys, stop lying to yourselves to feel better about this trade. If JO is really healthy, why wouldn't the Pacers just keep him and his expiring contract?

because they are getting assets back;

tj ford who is a top 10-15 PG
expiring contract in rasho
#17 pick.

And it's Granger's team now. He's been shopped around for the past few seasons.

[Drewser3131]

Sportsnet just said it was a done deal. Rasho, 17th pick, T.J., and a player to be named later.

I was watching...it said agreed in principle, not done deal. Agreed in principle is the same tidbit we got from the yahoo article, so this isn't a done deal yet.