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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 2 

Post#1801 » by PushDaRock » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:02 am

CazOnReal wrote:So let's say the Raptors land 3rd, 4th or stay at 6th in the lottery.

Would you be opposed to trading the Pacer 2026 1st, the 2024 Pacers pick (assuming it conveys since it is Top 3 protected and the Pacers have fallen back to the play-in) or another future pick (has to be 28 or beyond) to move up and select Sarr, Topic or Risacher under the assumption that they might not be available at 3?


I would be livid, that's terrible value.
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Post#1802 » by TimeForChange » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:07 am

New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/
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Post#1803 » by PhilBlackson » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:14 am

CazOnReal wrote:So let's say the Raptors land 3rd, 4th or stay at 6th in the lottery.

Would you be opposed to trading the Pacer 2026 1st, the 2024 Pacers pick (assuming it conveys since it is Top 3 protected and the Pacers have fallen back to the play-in) or another future pick (has to be 28 or beyond) to move up and select Sarr, Topic or Risacher under the assumption that they might not be available at 3?


Nope.

I’d only use a future first if I felt like I had a chance to draft a superstar or at least a pick I’m fully confident will be a star. I give each guy an outside chance but right now none of them scream obvious star player at the next level.

I could very easily see this being draft where the top player doesn’t even go in the top 4. There’s no obvious star so I’d rather stand pat see if our scouts spot the diamond in the rough and keep our future assets. You never know how high that pick might be with Hali’s health and an aging Pascal eating up so much cap space (knowing Hali will get super maxed). It’s within the realm of possibility that they could miss a Playoffs if either guys health or Pascal’s case age might effect his game. All that aside again I just don’t give up future assets unless I think I see a bonafide star, none of those guys are that imo.
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Post#1804 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:26 am

TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/


Only player listed with one of their skillset strength as being Playmaking is ..... Carlton Carrington! Not even Topic, he just gets Ball-Handling.
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Post#1805 » by Mark_83 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:26 am

TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Really hoping for Da Silva right at that spot. The dream of Sears at pick 31 or UDFA looks like it's officially over. lol
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Post#1806 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 3:29 am

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CazOnReal wrote:So let's say the Raptors land 3rd, 4th or stay at 6th in the lottery.

Would you be opposed to trading the Pacer 2026 1st, the 2024 Pacers pick (assuming it conveys since it is Top 3 protected and the Pacers have fallen back to the play-in) or another future pick (has to be 28 or beyond) to move up and select Sarr, Topic or Risacher under the assumption that they might not be available at 3?


Nope.

I’d only use a future first if I felt like I had a chance to draft a superstar or at least a pick I’m fully confident will be a star. I give each guy an outside chance but right now none of them scream obvious star player at the next level.

I could very easily see this being draft where the top player doesn’t even go in the top 4. There’s no obvious star so I’d rather stand pat see if our scouts spot the diamond in the rough and keep our future assets. You never know how high that pick might be with Hali’s health and an aging Pascal eating up so much cap space (knowing Hali will get super maxed). It’s within the realm of possibility that they could miss a Playoffs if either guys health or Pascal’s case age might effect his game. All that aside again I just don’t give up future assets unless I think I see a bonafide star, none of those guys are that imo.


Scout well and find the Scottie. Ya, don't move up, just don't let Haliburton pass you like the Pistons and Knicks did.

Actually Haliburton wasn't really that athletic in college but shot crazy %'s like Reed Sheppard.
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Post#1807 » by Reeko » Thu Apr 4, 2024 4:40 am

TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Yeah but still dumb enough to put Knecht over Risacher.
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Post#1808 » by CazOnReal » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:01 am

I guess i'm an outlier in being open to trading up - or out of this draft - if the right draft or player respectively is available. But yeah, a first-round outright is a hard sell. Maybe a swap in 2028?
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Post#1809 » by RoteSchroder » Thu Apr 4, 2024 5:43 am

Salaun, Ivisic and KyShawn George have been on my "do not draft" list for a while now, but I would consider Ivisic if we can see more games from him and he shows he can stay on the court consistently.

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Post#1810 » by grant101 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 11:41 am

CazOnReal wrote:I guess i'm an outlier in being open to trading up - or out of this draft - if the right draft or player respectively is available. But yeah, a first-round outright is a hard sell. Maybe a swap in 2028?


I hate the idea of trading up in this draft (i just don't see good-bet franchise-changers outside of possibly Sarr), but if some team is stupid enough to trade us future draft pick(s) with potential to be better than the ones we're trading out of, I'm all for it!

That said, selfishly I want at least some infusion of new blood with decent potential on this team. It's been a rough season.
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Post#1811 » by islandboy53 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 12:08 pm

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This is MLSE meaning if the pick conveys watch it get packaged with Brown or like asset to accellerate the process especially for more of the 24 year old timeline.


I don't think anyone, including the Raptors, sees this group as being at the point where you can trade away a top six pick. They need to be patient, add talent via picks and FA this year, accumulate additional draft capital, and let the current group continue to grow. They traded away 2 of their best players to rebuild the team the right way, and I'll be shocked if they do otherwise.


If the pick conveys it won't be top 6 next year is what I am saying unless, we have taken further steps back, and/or... we actively tank the second half of the season. It could very well be Gradey Dick #13 position next year. Raps are playing not to convey it and are rolling the dice to get a shot at Sarr or Topic. If they keep #6 then Reed Sheppard or Castle or Cody Williams should all be there.


I think finishing in the late lottery next year is realistic. If we convey the pick this year, we'll still need that pick to keep building the talent base, so, again, I don't think we trade it.
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Post#1812 » by ATLTimekeeper » Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:13 pm

Indy pick I am okay with Edey, Furphy, Carter, Knecht.

Ron Holland if he slides.
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Post#1813 » by Psubs » Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:45 pm

ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indy pick I am okay with Edey, Furphy, Carter, Knecht.

Ron Holland if he slides.


Knect solidified himself to go around #5-13 with the tournament play.

I liked Furphy but feel that he tops out at a glue guy starter but not like he'll develop better than Tristan DaSilva so not wasting money and time on Furphy and get the more advanced player now to go with Scottie.

What if Cody Williams is available and #6, and OKC would like to nab Jalen's brother? They did make a trade moving up 2 spaces to get Cason Wallace.

#6 and McDaniels for #12, Ousmane Dieng and 2025 1st pick (top 4 protected)? OKC would still have Houston's 1st pick next year.

Or expand the trade to send Poeltl and get Jaylin Williams? I really liked Jaylin Williams pre-draft. Now he shoots 80% FTs and shoots the 3 better than Pascal already. He's a great backup PF/C with an A/T of over 2. OKC needs a bigger C now, so Chet can play PF.
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Post#1814 » by Saul Goodman » Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:53 pm

Let’s say the raptors win the number one pick… would you do this deal ? Considering the mystery of the draft would I think I’d love 3 swings in the upper half of the 1st round


#1 pick
#31 pick

For Portland for

#6
#13


Pick Matas Buzelis Isiah collier and Zach Edey
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Post#1815 » by T-d0t » Thu Apr 4, 2024 1:54 pm

TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Castle that high though?
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Post#1816 » by WuTang_CMB » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:25 pm

Salun wingspan listed 7'1" here not 7'4" , still +4
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Post#1817 » by BoyzNTheHood » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:31 pm

T-d0t wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Castle that high though?

Castle is amazing
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Post#1818 » by grant101 » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:39 pm

Saul Goodman wrote:Let’s say the raptors win the number one pick… would you do this deal ? Considering the mystery of the draft would I think I’d love 3 swings in the upper half of the 1st round


#1 pick
#31 pick

For Portland for

#6
#13


Pick Matas Buzelis Isiah collier and Zach Edey


No. I have Sarr >> Matas, and I think there's a decent chance Collier is there at the Pacers pick. I don't think there are many teams in that range looking to add a ball-dominant score-first combo-guard with shooting questions (I'm actually a fan btw).
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Post#1819 » by TimeForChange » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:43 pm

T-d0t wrote:
TimeForChange wrote:New Ringer big board.

Finally someone smart enough to realize Risacher should not be a top pick.

https://nbadraft.theringer.com/

Castle that high though?

smart teams draft defense.

in this draft, I could see him going top-5 for sure.
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Post#1820 » by TimeForChange » Thu Apr 4, 2024 2:46 pm

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ATLTimekeeper wrote:Indy pick I am okay with Edey, Furphy, Carter, Knecht.

Ron Holland if he slides.


Knect solidified himself to go around #5-13 with the tournament play.

a 23 year old scorer who can't play any defense going top-10 is amazing to me but this draft is so bad, what can you do.

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