Official Scottie Barnes Thread 2

Scott Hall · Post #1821 » by **Scott Hall** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:10 pm

WuTang_CMB · Post #1822 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:22 pm

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brownbobcat · Post #1823 » by **brownbobcat** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 3:25 pm

lobosloboslobos wrote:I definitely think Cade could pull it out but I sense the tide turning to Scottie. Yesterday Bill Simmons picked him on his podcast and Chad Ford picked him too. Jarrett Allen's injury has torpedoed Mobley's chances.

I would tend to think that Evan Mobley's injury torpedoes Mobley's chances, but I honestly don't think voters will be scrutinizing this as much as fans are. They tend to be more narrative driven and for whatever reason, that seems to be in Mobley's favour - don't think much changes that over the next few games.

blastttOFF · Post #1824 » by **blastttOFF** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:17 pm

https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-30-edition

recent NBA rookie ladder, even after Mobley's bad week and injury...

1.) Mobley 2.) Cunningham 3.) Barnes

LBJKB24MJ23 · Post #1825 » by **LBJKB24MJ23** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:22 pm

blastttOFF wrote:https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-30-edition

recent NBA rookie ladder, even after Mobley's bad week and injury...

1.) Mobley 2.) Cunningham 3.) Barnes

I would be okay if they gave it to Barnes and Mobley as co-winners.

that would be probably be the best thing to recognize the best rookies on a playoff team considering both teams were in the lottery last year.

Post #1826 » by **Reeko** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:23 pm

What I want to happen is for Scottie to win, what probably will happen is Mobley will win, what should happen is for them to be Co ROTY.

Madhouse · Post #1827 » by **Madhouse** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:32 pm

blastttOFF wrote:https://www.nba.com/news/kia-rookie-ladder-march-30-edition

recent NBA rookie ladder, even after Mobley's bad week and injury...

1.) Mobley 2.) Cunningham 3.) Barnes

If they had him 3rd last week, there was no need to change now as his last 5 games were meh.

Either way, his odds right now are down to 2/1 and 3/1, so he has a good chance to win if he gets back to good consistent performances.

Kingsway_fan · Post #1828 » by **Kingsway_fan** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:34 pm

He needs to finish strong.... fill the stats sheet... play solid D

DangerZone13 · Post #1829 » by **DangerZone13** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:36 pm

Reeko wrote:What I want to happen is for Scottie to win, what probably will happen is Mobley will win, what should happen is for them to be Co ROTY.

Exactly this. Cade has been playing well, taking nothing away from him, but if he wins over Scottie and Mobley who are making their production on playoff teams, it would be wrong.

With Mobley out, and teams in seed jockeying mode, Scottie should have some opportunities to enhance his case, and Nurse will likely look to build his confidence before the playoffs. Go get it Scottie ROY!

OakleyDokely · Post #1830 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:45 pm

If Cade wins, he will have the worst TS% among rookie of the year winners since Michael Carter-Williams.

LoveMyRaps · Post #1831 » by **LoveMyRaps** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:46 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:If Cade wins, he will have the worst TS% among rookie of the year winners since Michael Carter-Williams.

I highly doubt he wins tbh even though I think he'll be the best player from this draft.

OakleyDokely · Post #1832 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:51 pm

LoveMyRaps wrote:
OakleyDokely wrote:If Cade wins, he will have the worst TS% among rookie of the year winners since Michael Carter-Williams.

I highly doubt he wins tbh even though I think he'll be the best player from this draft.

Especially in the playoffs, I think bigs like Barnes/Mobley will be more impactful than a 6'5 guard. The way the league is going, you need a dominant, do-it-all wing/big. The players who truly dominate in the playoffs are guys like KD, Giannis, Kawhi, Lebron etc. The only guy who doesn't fit this mold is the greatest shooter of all-time.

Cade's really good, but I'd still take Mobley and Barnes over him because they can impact the game in so many different ways from an offensive and defensive standpoint.

AbC? · Post #1833 » by **AbC?** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 5:54 pm

It’s a tough ask for a rookie, but really hope we get more stable defensive performances from him going into the playoffs. He was awful against the Celtics. His lows need to be not as low.

HumbleRen · Post #1834 » by **HumbleRen** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:06 pm

It’s now or never. Whole team galvanized around FVV to get him that all star spot. I hope they do the same for Scottie.

His usage drops off a cliff when the starting 5 are all healthy so hopefully they make more of an effort to involve him in the offence. I doubt it though.

Madhouse · Post #1835 » by **Madhouse** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:14 pm

will be tough for anyone to match Barnes from this draft longterm. Raptors development has not kicked in yet and already overachieved expectations this season. Same goes for Precious...

everdiso · Post #1836 » by **everdiso** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:15 pm

Read on Twitter

OakleyDokely · Post #1837 » by **OakleyDokely** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:17 pm

If Barnes (or Mobley) played on a tanking team, it would be crazy to think what their raw stats would look like with higher usage rates. When winning and efficiency don't matter, it's a lot easier to put numbers.

WuTang_CMB · Post #1838 » by **WuTang_CMB** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:24 pm

OakleyDokely wrote:If Barnes (or Mobley) played on a tanking team, it would be crazy to think what their raw stats would look like with higher usage rates. When winning and efficiency don't matter, it's a lot easier to put numbers.

which is why this cade roy talk doesnt make any sense.

Madhouse · Post #1839 » by **Madhouse** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:39 pm

The newest reason for Barnes not winning ROY is now we are simply too good. :lol:

Madhouse · Post #1840 » by **Madhouse** » Wed Mar 30, 2022 6:44 pm

Madhouse wrote:The newest reason for Barnes not winning ROY is now we are simply too good.

6 months earlier