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2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3

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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1821 » by tdotrep2 » Tue Mar 11, 2025 6:49 pm

Mark_83 wrote:Edgecombe is perfect for this team. He fits our player type, and he has that dawg in him. Him and Scottie would be tearing it up at Caribana. :lol:

start looking at prospects in teh 7-9 range :lol:
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1822 » by WuTang_CMB » Tue Mar 11, 2025 8:02 pm

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Edgecombe could easily end up a Top 3 player from this class. Only players I think are a lock to be better than him are Harper and Cooper.


he may end up better than Harper too. He has really stepped up in the 2nd half of the season.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1824 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:05 pm

Why is Fears mocked higher than Jase? Height?
"Above average role player is now being paid like a superstar from one good playoff series. This will end up as one of the worst contracts in the league." paulbball on Pascal Siakam
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1825 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:07 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
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I already told you guys man.

Edgecombe could easily end up a Top 3 player from this class. Only players I think are a lock to be better than him are Harper and Cooper.


His halfcourt Rim FG% is pretty bad considering how athletic he is

Other than that he’s a good mix of a plus defender and offensive player. Could either be a more athletic Caruso or Victor Oladipo with more defensive tenacity
"Above average role player is now being paid like a superstar from one good playoff series. This will end up as one of the worst contracts in the league." paulbball on Pascal Siakam
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1826 » by Lukeem » Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:28 pm

Danny Wolf could really be the perfect fit - basically just Jokic with better driving, and defense ... I can dream
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Post#1827 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:01 pm

Lukeem wrote:Danny Wolf could really be the perfect fit - basically just Jokic with better driving, and defense ... I can dream


Or he could just bust if you overdraft him.

All the deeper numbers suggest he's not Jokic. Wolf legitimately is like a mediocre 7' PG whereas Jokic has the magic ability to essentially shapeshift between being an outstanding interior presence and a lead initiator at will. Wolf is quite poor doing "big man things" which is why I don't see the similarity even in player archetype.
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Post#1828 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:03 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
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I already told you guys man.

Edgecombe could easily end up a Top 3 player from this class. Only players I think are a lock to be better than him are Harper and Cooper.


His halfcourt Rim FG% is pretty bad considering how athletic he is

Other than that he’s a good mix of a plus defender and offensive player. Could either be a more athletic Caruso or Victor Oladipo with more defensive tenacity


It's because he doesn't play off of two feet.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1829 » by BoyzNTheHood » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:36 pm

Lukeem wrote:Danny Wolf could really be the perfect fit - basically just Jokic with better driving, and defense ... I can dream

I’d say he’s closer to Mamu than Joker, but he does have fun flashes in him. The couple of times I’ve watched him this year he’s been absolute crap, but I can see the appeal.
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Post#1830 » by WhatsaTDot » Tue Mar 11, 2025 10:55 pm

Rocco has too many red flags that have been swept under the carpet here in Aus. Had to leave the COE. Got a great big man coach at the Bullets and is just a stubborn head case whose stock fell further as the year went along. Stay away.
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Post#1831 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:02 pm

BoyzNTheHood wrote:
Lukeem wrote:Danny Wolf could really be the perfect fit - basically just Jokic with better driving, and defense ... I can dream

I’d say he’s closer to Mamu than Joker, but he does have fun flashes in him. The couple of times I’ve watched him this year he’s been absolute crap, but I can see the appeal.


He can play on Washington beside Sarr and create for others. I think his fit is ONLY beside an elite rim protector. He is thriving playing opposite huge Vladislav Goldin.

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Post#1832 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:21 pm

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote:
WuTang_OG wrote:
Read on Twitter

I already told you guys man.

Edgecombe could easily end up a Top 3 player from this class. Only players I think are a lock to be better than him are Harper and Cooper.


His halfcourt Rim FG% is pretty bad considering how athletic he is

Other than that he’s a good mix of a plus defender and offensive player. Could either be a more athletic Caruso or Victor Oladipo with more defensive tenacity


One report notes that he doesn't have any counter moves on his drives so if he's stopped it's not a good shot attempt. I think he can work on that.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/vj-edgecombe-1/splits/2025

He had a heater month of January from 3. He's probably like Oladipo as a 34% shooter from deep. Just average enough to keep defender's honest, yet not hurt the team.

He would be a taller Oladipo or a bouncier, more powerful Jakobe Walter.
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Post#1833 » by Psubs » Tue Mar 11, 2025 11:33 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25168649-2025-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-and-pro-comparisons


Queen at #6? :noway:

Demin really dropped. Jak too.

What makes Ben Saraf a better prospect than Noah Penda?

Hugo Gonzalez makes more sense at #28 than mid 1st.

Rasheer Fleming is the only player with 50 threes and 50 dunks. :nod:

Wolf at #29 makes sense but Queen at #6 doesn't. :noway:

Alex Condon at #40? :crazy:
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Post#1834 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:07 am

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WuTang_OG wrote:https://bleacherreport.com/articles/25168649-2025-nba-mock-draft-full-2-round-predictions-and-pro-comparisons


Queen at #6? :noway:

Demin really dropped. Jak too.

What makes Ben Saraf a better prospect than Noah Penda?

Hugo Gonzalez makes more sense at #28 than mid 1st.

Rasheer Fleming is the only player with 50 threes and 50 dunks. :nod:

Wolf at #29 makes sense but Queen at #6 doesn't. :noway:

Alex Condon at #40? :crazy:


As much as people might question Queen he has the most straightforward obvious framework for being an offensive hub (on paper). A ton of his **** is unassisted, he might genuinely be close to an 80% FT shooter if you look at him dating back to 2022, he can face up and give you the triple threat and take you off the bounce from the perimeter while employing various moves to score at the hole or stop short for the middie or pass. The question is how will his athleticism affect his outcome. On skill alone he is unmatched among the 2025 Cs, has the best footwork, softest hands and best shooting markers w/ the dribble J volume to back his shot creation potential.
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Post#1835 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Wed Mar 12, 2025 1:19 am



How many centers can do this stuff. High volume of non-rim 2s + his FT% sample = good potential for effective volume 3 ball coming from C position. People dissed McCain last year for being sophomore aged freshman and perceived athletic limitations as he dunked 1 time if I remember correctly.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1836 » by Indeed » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:45 am

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How many centers can do this stuff. High volume of non-rim 2s + his FT% sample = good potential for effective volume 3 ball coming from C position. People dissed McCain last year for being sophomore aged freshman and perceived athletic limitations as he dunked 1 time if I remember correctly.


I am high on Queen, in my top 10, however, I am unsure we can hide him on defense. I am wondering if he can slim down to play the PF. I don't feel he can play C with his lateral quickness.

With him able to shoot the 3 (probably just the matter of time), he looks very good on offense. His high and quick release would be pretty hard to stop, and his passing is as good as anyone on our team.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1837 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:56 am

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How many centers can do this stuff. High volume of non-rim 2s + his FT% sample = good potential for effective volume 3 ball coming from C position. People dissed McCain last year for being sophomore aged freshman and perceived athletic limitations as he dunked 1 time if I remember correctly.


Maybe he's Zach Randolph 2.0? ZBo was 6'9 in shoes, I guess Queen is an inch taller, thus dunking a little more. Wait, is Queen really 6'10 without shoes? So 6'11 in shoes?

I guess this is how I view Condon. He's like a 6'11 Pascal Siakam. We'll see the official measurements later.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1838 » by Indeed » Wed Mar 12, 2025 3:58 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:
Rapsfan07 wrote: I already told you guys man.

Edgecombe could easily end up a Top 3 player from this class. Only players I think are a lock to be better than him are Harper and Cooper.


His halfcourt Rim FG% is pretty bad considering how athletic he is

Other than that he’s a good mix of a plus defender and offensive player. Could either be a more athletic Caruso or Victor Oladipo with more defensive tenacity


One report notes that he doesn't have any counter moves on his drives so if he's stopped it's not a good shot attempt. I think he can work on that.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/vj-edgecombe-1/splits/2025

He had a heater month of January from 3. He's probably like Oladipo as a 34% shooter from deep. Just average enough to keep defender's honest, yet not hurt the team.

He would be a taller Oladipo or a bouncier, more powerful Jakobe Walter.


He is shorter than Oladipo, Edgecomb (6'4 with 6'6 wingspan) is more a poor man's Oldaipo (6'5 with 6'9 wingspan) playing at PG.
Fears (6'4 with 6'6 wingspan) may not have the vertical and finishing, but more a PG.

Fox (6'4 with 6'6.5 wingspan) maybe a good comparison in terms of size.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1839 » by Psubs » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:10 am

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His halfcourt Rim FG% is pretty bad considering how athletic he is

Other than that he’s a good mix of a plus defender and offensive player. Could either be a more athletic Caruso or Victor Oladipo with more defensive tenacity


One report notes that he doesn't have any counter moves on his drives so if he's stopped it's not a good shot attempt. I think he can work on that.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/vj-edgecombe-1/splits/2025

He had a heater month of January from 3. He's probably like Oladipo as a 34% shooter from deep. Just average enough to keep defender's honest, yet not hurt the team.

He would be a taller Oladipo or a bouncier, more powerful Jakobe Walter.


He is shorter than Oladipo, Edgecomb (6'4 with 6'6 wingspan) is more a poor man's Oldaipo (6'5 with 6'9 wingspan) playing at PG.
Fears (6'4 with 6'6 wingspan) may not have the vertical and finishing, but more a PG.

Fox (6'4 with 6'6.5 wingspan) maybe a good comparison in terms of size.


Oladipo was shorter than 6'4 Wade.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/oladivi01.html
https://www.nba.com/stats/player/203506/career

Edgecombe might be 6'4 barefoot.

https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2013-14

6'3 1/4 without shoes and 6'4 1/4 in shoes. Oladipo did have a crazy 6'9 wingspan so can dunk easy.

Edgecombe just looks bigger.
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Re: 2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 3 

Post#1840 » by Indeed » Wed Mar 12, 2025 4:11 am

UnbelievablyRAW wrote:Why is Fears mocked higher than Jase? Height?


Some may have Richardson ahead of Fears, but many may still have Fears ahead.

Rim pressure and assist rate are elite level for Fears. Both are highly transferable to NBA.

He is the best in rim pressure among this draft class, less than 26.2% of his 159 at rim attempts are assisted, vs Richardson with 44.2% of his 73 at rim attempts being assisted. Richardson is a much better 3 point shooter and finisher.

As for assist rate, Fears (28.8%) has almost double Richardson (15.2%). Fears is a better PG.

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