Snapbacks and Handshakes: The 2017 Draft (Raps pick #23)

[HeadtopChunes]

Holy ****

Yeah that's very sad to hear. Career over before it begun

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Some team with multiple 2nd rounders will draft him. If he's OK to play, he'll be a steal.

I don't think he'll be approved by league doctors to play.

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[LonZoBallin]

If MU lands Dennis smith JR he'll go down as the Goat GM.

[PhilBlackson]

If MU lands Dennis smith JR he'll go down as the Goat GM.

Right after he tanks for Wiggins he'll be sure to do that.

[S.W.A.N]

I really want us to get a second round pick to get two of these guys.

Semi,Lydon,Bolden Hart, Iwundu, Bell, Motley, Jackson

[jindy20]

Sign me up for Josh Hart. NBA sleeps on seniors and he will be the next. I'm all in on Hart.

[OAKLEY_2]

Sign me up for Josh Hart. NBA sleeps on seniors and he will be the next. I'm all in on Hart.

We really are not that far away from being able to land Donovan Mitchell or OG. The question is how expensive would it be to move up to the 10-15 range? In the past Masai has said it was too costly to move up but if Valancuinas and a lotto protected future first could get us the King's 10th or Piston's 12th and some bodies, this draft is more interesting. It becomes apparent we do not have that many tradable assets and if we don't what right do we have to go into the tax and cry poor all at the same time? This is a draft to be very aggressive to move up. Where Boston is at with first overall mandates pulling out all stops. The question is what are we willing to pay? Do we haven the assets?

Valancuinas and Demar are pretty much our only tradable assets. Trading any of the youth core is bad management. DSJ, Mitchell or OG would be my targets. I cringe at the thought of giving up Norm and 23 for _____.

[ATLTimekeeper]

So Jeanne is out of the question. Anigbogu isn't working out for anyone and has a torn meniscus. I'm feeling less comfortable with the talent that might be available to us.

[ATLTimekeeper]

Right now I'm leaning:

1. Hartenstein
2. Ferguson
3. Bolden
4. Ojeleye
5. Leaf
6. Thornwell

[CoachJReturns]

So Jeanne is out of the question. Anigbogu isn't working out for anyone and has a torn meniscus. I'm feeling less comfortable with the talent that might be available to us.

It's the 23rd pick. By that point the talent available is always pretty thin to say the least. Teams are essentially hoping to be one of the lucky ones because it's basically a crapshoot outside the lottery. Heck, it can be a crapshoot outside the top 5-10 some years.

[Patman]

So Jeanne is out of the question. Anigbogu isn't working out for anyone and has a torn meniscus. I'm feeling less comfortable with the talent that might be available to us.

It's the 23rd pick. By that point the talent available is always pretty thin to say the least. Teams are essentially hoping to be one of the lucky ones because it's basically a crapshoot outside the lottery. Heck, it can be a crapshoot outside the top 5-10 some years.

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

[Tortiglioni]

So Jeanne is out of the question. Anigbogu isn't working out for anyone and has a torn meniscus. I'm feeling less comfortable with the talent that might be available to us.

It's the 23rd pick. By that point the talent available is always pretty thin to say the least. Teams are essentially hoping to be one of the lucky ones because it's basically a crapshoot outside the lottery. Heck, it can be a crapshoot outside the top 5-10 some years.

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

The talent at #23 in this draft is basically lottery-level in most drafts, and there are a ton of 2nd-rounders who will be NBA rotation players. That said, I have zero confidence in Masai drafting at #23.

[CoachJReturns]

So Jeanne is out of the question. Anigbogu isn't working out for anyone and has a torn meniscus. I'm feeling less comfortable with the talent that might be available to us.

It's the 23rd pick. By that point the talent available is always pretty thin to say the least. Teams are essentially hoping to be one of the lucky ones because it's basically a crapshoot outside the lottery. Heck, it can be a crapshoot outside the top 5-10 some years.

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

I can't criticize anyone because I follow prospects year round and never stop discussing the draft. I just try to keep some perspective about it, otherwise I'll be disappointed year after year. After picks like Hoffa, Bargs, Ross, Michael Bradley, Radjovic I've learned to keep calm.

[LonZoBallin]

I like Tony Bradley

[Patman]

It's the 23rd pick. By that point the talent available is always pretty thin to say the least. Teams are essentially hoping to be one of the lucky ones because it's basically a crapshoot outside the lottery. Heck, it can be a crapshoot outside the top 5-10 some years.

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

The talent at #23 in this draft is basically lottery-level in most drafts, and there are a ton of 2nd-rounders who will be NBA rotation players. That said, I have zero confidence in Masai drafting at #23.

If this is true, that will be unprecedented. We'll see. There are always sleepers that are drafted way later than they should have (i.e. Draymond Green). But what you're saying is that there are 2 dozen lottery talents (non-sleepers) in this draft? And about 40 players in all that should be rotation players? Or are you counting on a number of teams bungling their pick so that a higher-rated player falls to us?

[HeadtopChunes]

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

The talent at #23 in this draft is basically lottery-level in most drafts, and there are a ton of 2nd-rounders who will be NBA rotation players. That said, I have zero confidence in Masai drafting at #23.

If this is true, that will be unprecedented. We'll see. There are always sleepers that are drafted way later than they should have (i.e. Draymond Green). But what you're saying is that there are 2 dozen lottery talents (non-sleepers) in this draft? And about 40 players in all that should be rotation players? Or are you counting on a number of teams bungling their pick so that a higher-rated player falls to us?

Just seems higher quality than usual. Far more likely to find rotation/role players late in this draft than other ones.

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[HeadtopChunes]

This. I'm wondering if any other fanbase gets this excited about a late first round pick.

The talent at #23 in this draft is basically lottery-level in most drafts, and there are a ton of 2nd-rounders who will be NBA rotation players. That said, I have zero confidence in Masai drafting at #23.

If this is true, that will be unprecedented. We'll see. There are always sleepers that are drafted way later than they should have (i.e. Draymond Green). But what you're saying is that there are 2 dozen lottery talents (non-sleepers) in this draft? And about 40 players in all that should be rotation players? Or are you counting on a number of teams bungling their pick so that a higher-rated player falls to us?

Just seems higher quality than usual. Far more likely to find rotation/role players late in this draft than other ones.

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[LonZoBallin]

Would you trade next years 1st round pick if you know you're signing Lowry and Ibaka?

Like why not? I'm full team tank but what I'm not is stay in the middle. If you are signing Ibaka and Lowry I promise your 1st round pick next year is 17 at the lowest. Who cares about losing the 17th pick!!!!

For once in this franchises history can we think ahead please. If you are going to tank, Tank! If you're going to keep it together? trade 23 and your 1st next year, any prospect not in the rotation for a real player.

Pick a direction and stop treadmilling with these Bruno, Dwright, Pascal, #23 players....we've been down this road.

[HeadtopChunes]

Would you trade next years 1st round pick if you know you're signing Lowry and Ibaka?

Like why not? I'm full team tank but what I'm not is stay in the middle. If you are signing Ibaka and Lowry I promise your 1st round pick next year is 17 at the lowest. Who cares about losing the 17th pick!!!!

For once in this franchises history can we think ahead please. If you are going to tank, Tank! If you're going to keep it together? trade 23 and your 1st next year, any prospect not in the rotation for a real player.

Pick a direction and stop treadmilling with these Bruno, Dwright, Pascal, #23 players....we've been down this road.

That's not how we do things and Im pretty happy with that. I'd rather be like the Spurs and build through the draft while winning over the Clippers who traded all their picks and have no assets or promising young players. Wouldn't mind trading them but only for the right thing.

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[LonZoBallin]

Would you trade next years 1st round pick if you know you're signing Lowry and Ibaka?

Like why not? I'm full team tank but what I'm not is stay in the middle. If you are signing Ibaka and Lowry I promise your 1st round pick next year is 17 at the lowest. Who cares about losing the 17th pick!!!!

For once in this franchises history can we think ahead please. If you are going to tank, Tank! If you're going to keep it together? trade 23 and your 1st next year, any prospect not in the rotation for a real player.

Pick a direction and stop treadmilling with these Bruno, Dwright, Pascal, #23 players....we've been down this road.

That's not how we do things and Im pretty happy with that. I'd rather be like the Spurs and build through the draft while winning over the Clippers who traded all their picks and have no assets or promising young players. Wouldn't mind trading them but only for the right thing.

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Build through the draft?

A) MU has shown no ability to build through the draft...to compare the raptors drafting to the Spurs is laughable. Just no

B) The Spurs traded up for Kawhi and hit at 15. Which is hard to hit at 15. Again though, they've had a history of hitting. MU hasn't! The two players they got late in Manu and Parker was just them being ahead of the rest of the league in international scouting. That time is in the past. The chances you getting anything real late in the draft is next to none.

[HeadtopChunes]

Would you trade next years 1st round pick if you know you're signing Lowry and Ibaka?

Like why not? I'm full team tank but what I'm not is stay in the middle. If you are signing Ibaka and Lowry I promise your 1st round pick next year is 17 at the lowest. Who cares about losing the 17th pick!!!!

For once in this franchises history can we think ahead please. If you are going to tank, Tank! If you're going to keep it together? trade 23 and your 1st next year, any prospect not in the rotation for a real player.

Pick a direction and stop treadmilling with these Bruno, Dwright, Pascal, #23 players....we've been down this road.

That's not how we do things and Im pretty happy with that. I'd rather be like the Spurs and build through the draft while winning over the Clippers who traded all their picks and have no assets or promising young players. Wouldn't mind trading them but only for the right thing.

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Build through the draft?

A) MU has shown no ability to build through the draft...to compare the raptors drafting to the Spurs is laughable. Just no

B) The Spurs traded up for Kawhi and hit at 15. Which is hard to hit at 15. Again though, they've had a history of hitting. MU hasn't! The two players they got late in Manu and Parker was just them being ahead of the rest of the league in international scouting. That time has pasted. The chances you getting anything real late in the draft is next to none.

You are comparing 3 years of Masai drafting to 20 years of Spurs drafting. It's not the same quality sure but it's a different level. Either way building through the draft is the best approach. I'd prefer Masais drafting to no drafting

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