Team Canada Basketball Thread V3.0

[ItsDanger]

There is a clear difference between hockey and basketball players when representing your country, whether people want to admit it or not. All these excuses are just that, excuses.

[InfraRedshaw]

quick reminder that other stars for other countries are also sitting out - there is no need to overreact to this, don't forget he suited up for at pan am games before he was even at UK

[vagelis]

With Murray out, is there a possibility that Wiggins will be called to play for Canada?

And what is the case that Wiggins doesn't play for the national team of Canada?

[TrueNorth31]

There is a clear difference between hockey and basketball players when representing your country, whether people want to admit it or not. All these excuses are just that, excuses.

Given that we haven't had NHL players in the Olympics since 2014 and in the World Hockey championships , having premium NHL players NOT show up is more often the case - I don't think you know what you're talking about.

[ItsDanger]

There is a clear difference between hockey and basketball players when representing your country, whether people want to admit it or not. All these excuses are just that, excuses.

Given that we haven't had NHL players in the Olympics since 2014 and in the World Hockey championships , having premium NHL players NOT show up is more often the case - I don't think you know what you're talking about.

Worlds in hockey occur every year, Canada can send their G level team and still win, as we saw this past spring, thats how deep they are. Olympics didnt happen for various reasons and all the players are complaining about it.

Truth hurts but there just is a clear difference. Hence why the bench should lean towards younger NBA guys. No reason Nembhard isn't on this team.

[WaltFrazier]

I can't fault Murray for this necessarily, but it points up the mistake of not including another NBA guard like Nembhard this summer. Or Mathurin or Sharpe. They were too inflexible with the 3 year commitment thing.

[TrueNorth31]

"Canada can send their G level team and still win, as we saw this past spring, thats how deep they are."

That's exactly the point ! Canada has over 400 potential NHL players, so when 7 of our NBA players show up out of 20-25 NBA players, it's a similar ratio to NHL participation - Truth Hurts.

[ItsDanger]

"Canada can send their G level team and still win, as we saw this past spring, thats how deep they are."

That's exactly the point ! Canada has over 400 potential NHL players, so when 7 of our NBA players show up out of 20-25 NBA players, it's a similar ratio to NHL participation - Truth Hurts.

You don't get it. If the commitment is soft, then you need to have a plan B. Not having PG depth is stupid. Denying the commitment is soft is just ignoring the facts. Now way too much of ball handling duties is on SGA.

Better adjust next summer in case it happens again.

[steadysoul]

I can't fault Murray for this necessarily, but it points up the mistake of not including another NBA guard like Nembhard this summer. Or Mathurin or Sharpe. They were too inflexible with the 3 year commitment thing.

They basically told anyone not in the core to not bother this summer. Again, this was a bad idea.

[TrueNorth31]

"Canada can send their G level team and still win, as we saw this past spring, thats how deep they are."

That's exactly the point ! Canada has over 400 potential NHL players, so when 7 of our NBA players show up out of 20-25 NBA players, it's a similar ratio to NHL participation - Truth Hurts.

You don't get it. If the commitment is soft, then you need to have a plan B. Not having PG depth is stupid. Denying the commitment is soft is just ignoring the facts. Now way too much of ball handling duties is on SGA.

Better adjust next summer in case it happens again.

They'll be fine . I notice BTW the way you've shifted your argument from NHL players always show up - to Canada doesn't have any depth , which is something totally different. Nice try though....

[bozothepope]

Let this be a reminder: Never ever get your hopes up for Team Canada basketball.

[KL78192020]

With his injury history and their long run in the playoffs its really not a surprise he's not playing. Should've added one of the other younger Canadians.

[bozothepope]

"Canada can send their G level team and still win, as we saw this past spring, thats how deep they are."

That's exactly the point ! Canada has over 400 potential NHL players, so when 7 of our NBA players show up out of 20-25 NBA players, it's a similar ratio to NHL participation - Truth Hurts.

You don't get it. If the commitment is soft, then you need to have a plan B. Not having PG depth is stupid. Denying the commitment is soft is just ignoring the facts. Now way too much of ball handling duties is on SGA.

Better adjust next summer in case it happens again.

They'll be fine . I notice BTW the way you've shifted your argument from NHL players always show up - to Canada doesn't have any depth , which is something totally different. Nice try though....

The hockey Worlds take place during the NHL playoffs. It's not comparable to this tournament at all.

The Olympics on the other hand, all of our best hockey guys would kill to represent our country in that. Only nhl team owners & covid have prevented that from happening the last few times.

The only star Canadian hockey player I can remember not wanting to play in the Olympics was Patrick Roy in 2002, and only because he wasn't being promised the starting goalie spot. Luckily for us we also had Martin Brodeur and Curtis Joseph.

[ItsDanger]

Sammy Blais in NHL tore his ACL November 2021, 7 months after Jamal did. Had surgery, came back and played full season from October, 2022 onwards. Then played at Worlds in spring helping Canada win gold.

This injury management is something unique to basketball and is just an excuse not to be taken at face value.

[tms]

Canada alumni nod their heads in the group chat. Nash: “Well done, Jamal. You need to rest your back by visiting skate parks in New York.” Wennington: “Shai, we’re coming for you next.” Wiggins: “Remember, you’ll be free agents sometime between now and 2052.” Magloire: “We spent our careers giving you excuses. If they want you to play, you don't. It's simple. Don’t stomp on our legacy.” Ivan Chiriaev: “The NBA needs you.” TThompson: “If you really need to get away you can become Americans.” Fox: “Couldn't have said it better myself, boys.”

[TrueNorth31]

You don't get it. If the commitment is soft, then you need to have a plan B. Not having PG depth is stupid. Denying the commitment is soft is just ignoring the facts. Now way too much of ball handling duties is on SGA.

Better adjust next summer in case it happens again.

They'll be fine . I notice BTW the way you've shifted your argument from NHL players always show up - to Canada doesn't have any depth , which is something totally different. Nice try though....

The hockey Worlds take place during the NHL playoffs. It's not comparable to this tournament at all.

The Olympics on the other hand, all of our best hockey guys would kill to represent our country in that. Only nhl team owners & covid have prevented that from happening the last few times.

The only star Canadian hockey player I can remember not wanting to play in the Olympics was Patrick Roy in 2002, and only because he wasn't being promised the starting goalie spot. Luckily for us we also had Martin Brodeur and Curtis Joseph.

Canadian hoop players would also " kill to represent their country " , if you asked them to only make a 10 day in season commitment as in Sochi 2014. Hockey is a different sport from basketball, apples and oranges comparison.

[frumble]

So which two of P. Scrubb, TBH, and Cherry make the team?
And who is the forward cut?

[OakleyDokely]

Not really surprising regarding Murray, he's coming off a really serious injury and DEN had a really long playoff run. The fact he was there is a good sign for future participation.

[links135]

Sammy Blais in NHL tore his ACL November 2021, 7 months after Jamal did. Had surgery, came back and played full season from October, 2022 onwards. Then played at Worlds in spring helping Canada win gold.

This injury management is something unique to basketball and is just an excuse not to be taken at face value.

You mean the dude who before this last season, never played more than 40 games in the NHL? And you know, didn't even make the playoffs in his one full season?

I don't know if you could make a worse comparison.

[ItsDanger]

Sammy Blais in NHL tore his ACL November 2021, 7 months after Jamal did. Had surgery, came back and played full season from October, 2022 onwards. Then played at Worlds in spring helping Canada win gold.

This injury management is something unique to basketball and is just an excuse not to be taken at face value.

You mean the dude who before this last season, never played more than 40 games in the NHL? And you know, didn't even make the playoffs in his one full season?

I don't know if you could make a worse comparison.

Its an injury, talent isnt as relevant for the recovery. Anders Lee (very good winger for Islanders) tore his ACL, came back and played 6 months later, and everyone forgot about it. Its just a basketball thing to worry about this stuff. It certainly isnt going to be brought up 28 months later like in Murray's case.