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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1841 » by ATLTimekeeper » Sat Dec 21, 2024 2:53 pm

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Bruin wrote:He’s not draft eligible this year


It's the same question, though. On average 1 top 10 RSCI player becomes a top 20. Doesn't matter what draft they end up in.



I do think for something like that you need a very large sample size. Also, there could be a lot of variance where you go 2-3 years without any top 10 RSCI guys being a top 30 player ever in their careers and you could also end up with 4 guys another year all being top 15 guys.


I went back 20 classes and the most in any one class was 2 top 20 NBA players within the top 10 ranked RSCI candidates. Going back even further might add more, but that was a league where it was very rare for a top 20 player to come from outside the US.
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Post#1842 » by Psubs » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:53 pm

Rutgers at home just lost to Princeton.

Harper shot 50% but had 2 assists to 3 tos but 1 for 6 from deep.
Bailey had a double double but had 2 ast to 4 tos and shot 37.5% (1 for 5 from deep)

I guess Xaivian Lee should be strongly considered with the Portland pick...

21pts, 11 ast (4tos), 6 rebs and 3 stls, though only shot 31.8%. On the season 43/40/74 poor man's Jakucionus. Maybe more like a Jeremy Lin 2.0. Probably more like an UDFA or late 2nd pick like Shead.

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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1843 » by UnbelievablyRAW » Sat Dec 21, 2024 7:58 pm

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Post#1844 » by Syd-TK3 » Sat Dec 21, 2024 9:31 pm

Im already fully aboard the tank but everytime I see dylan harper play the passion gets even stronger
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Post#1845 » by Mr.Raptorsingh » Sat Dec 21, 2024 11:56 pm

Yea Dylan Harper is going to be good, reminds me of a lefty SGA
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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1846 » by CoinTossRoss31 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:44 am

Xavian Lee Canadian combo guard gotta think he's on our 2nd round list.
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Post#1847 » by DelAbbot » Sun Dec 22, 2024 12:46 am

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That shamgod was like in slow motion. His feet look heavy, similar to Scottie. But his craftiness makes up for it in a Brandon Roy type way. But do his heavy feet impede on defense?

scouting report says

Weaknesses: Isn’t an incredibly explosive leaper or possess high-level quickness. While he scores a lot in the paint, he’s usually not finishing above the rim. May struggle defending quicker players on the perimeter at the next levels. Gets beat on closeouts at times
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Post#1848 » by Indeed » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:37 am

CoinTossRoss31 wrote:Xavian Lee Canadian combo guard gotta think he's on our 2nd round list.


He was undrafted before the season and thought we can have him there, and now played so well to be in the 2nd round, we might need another 2nd round pick for him. I think his offense will fit our system, while defense isn't horrible even not a POA defender. He can probably play next to Shead for the packup PG/SG spots.
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Post#1849 » by Indeed » Sun Dec 22, 2024 1:56 am

Psubs wrote:Rutgers at home just lost to Princeton.

Harper shot 50% but had 2 assists to 3 tos but 1 for 6 from deep.
Bailey had a double double but had 2 ast to 4 tos and shot 37.5% (1 for 5 from deep)

I guess Xaivian Lee should be strongly considered with the Portland pick...

21pts, 11 ast (4tos), 6 rebs and 3 stls, though only shot 31.8%. On the season 43/40/74 poor man's Jakucionus. Maybe more like a Jeremy Lin 2.0. Probably more like an UDFA or late 2nd pick like Shead.



I was hoping we can get Lee with a lower pick, as I feel there may not be that much value for PG/SG spot in most teams.
My priority with the Portland pick would be a SF, someone like Catchings, Penda or anyone who drops.
And we also have a need at C
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Post#1850 » by deeps6x » Sun Dec 22, 2024 2:04 am

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I looked for Lee in the Harper highlights above. He was only defending him on the last make, after Harper beat three other players.

So... that's something I guess. I'll keep an eye on Lee.

Harper sure is starting to look like a first overall pick. Lots of games to go though.
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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1851 » by Reeko » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:00 am

Only sure things in this draft are Harper and Flagg, who are both likely future all stars. Everyone else is a roll of the dice where you hope they have the mentality to work hard and improve, and enough untapped potential, while being the right team to develop them and unlock their full potential.
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Post#1852 » by Indeed » Sun Dec 22, 2024 4:23 am

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UnbelievablyRAW wrote:


I looked for Lee in the Harper highlights above. He was only defending him on the last make, after Harper beat three other players.

So... that's something I guess. I'll keep an eye on Lee.

Harper sure is starting to look like a first overall pick. Lots of games to go though.

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Post#1853 » by billy_hoyle » Sun Dec 22, 2024 5:59 am

Reeko wrote:Only sure things in this draft are Harper and Flagg, who are both likely future all stars. Everyone else is a roll of the dice where you hope they have the mentality to work hard and improve, and enough untapped potential, while being the right team to develop them and unlock their full potential.

I'll take the field.
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Post#1854 » by Basketball_Jones » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:09 am

Lee reminded me a lot of Quickley and I felt he probably could have been drafted last year. Main concern is physical strength at the next level but I see some rare Trae Young type of skills with him that may help him succeed at the nba level despite his smaller stature.
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Post#1855 » by LoveMyRaps » Sun Dec 22, 2024 6:11 am

Lee is fun, but I really like Proctor.

If we draft a guard in the second round, I'd strongly consider Proctor.
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Post#1856 » by Mark_83 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 9:11 am

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I wasn't super high on him coming into the year due to his inconsistent shooting and lack of explosiveness, but the more I see him, the more I think he's going to be the #1 pick, unless a team chooses to go for roster fit. He just controls the game so well. He's not quick, but somehow he looks like he's playing (or at least thinking) the game at a faster pace than everyone else on the floor. James Harden is the obvious, and maybe lazy comparison offensively, but I also see a bit of Luka in his game.
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Post#1857 » by Brinbe » Sun Dec 22, 2024 10:32 am

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I wasn't super high on him coming into the year due to his inconsistent shooting and lack of explosiveness, but the more I see him, the more I think he's going to be the #1 pick, unless a team chooses to go for roster fit. He just controls the game so well. He's not quick, but somehow he looks like he's playing (or at least thinking) the game at a faster pace than everyone else on the floor. James Harden is the obvious, and maybe lazy comparison offensively, but I also see a bit of Luka in his game.

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But as for our 2nd rounder, I think they'll have some interesting choices available to them in terms, especially Cs like Sorber, Ivisic twins, Kalkbrenner, Wolf and potentially big wings like Mgbako, Theiro, Penda, Carter Bryant, Fleming. Lee is obviously the local guy and will def be in the mix too.
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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1858 » by Spates » Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:24 am

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Spates wrote:An intriguing draft class for sure. I'd be pleased if we walked away with Collin Murray-Boyles and Alex Karaban. Those are winning players.

Not gonna lie. I'd be upset with those draft results lol.

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Scoot Henderson, Cam Whitmore, Anthony Black, Jarace Walker, Jett Howard, Kobe Bufkin, Keyonte George. Every year this board pumps uncreative selections, players flop and everyone is surprised. Time and time again Rap's FO freaks everyone out with a surprise selection and it turns out they're right. I don't get the fixation on mock draft adherence.
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Post#1859 » by PhilBlackson » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:21 am

I still want one of Flagg, Demin or Bailey the most...

Look at where so many of our players started coming out of college...OG, Pascal, Fred, Norm...now Scottie, Gradey, JaKobe. Imagine what they could do with those guys?!? Not saying that I wouldn't be extremely happy with Harper or Jasp because they're way more NBA ready & I'm confident both guys will be REALLY good but that's the point. Once our developmental staff brings those guys more on par with them skillwise, those guys would arguably be just as valuable, if not more so because of course of the added rebounding and MUCH needed added defensive versatility (just to get it out of the way - Bailey prob being the least likely).

But I said it before but some of you guys need to look at the Conference and who will be our competition over the next 5+ years and every one of the best teams have LENGTH. Whether it's Brown/Tatum/Porz, Paolo/Franz/Isaac, Mobley/Allen...with whatever's left of Giannis & Embiid. We can't just keep overloading on guards.

I think Harper & Jasp are closer to their ceilings than the forward prospects are but if (or when) they catch up, they would be better overall players and positionally EXACTLY what we need -- then get a back up C with potential to space the floor in the 2nd ie/ Tomislav (favorite), Big Z or Wolf and I think we'd pretty much have the foundation ready to truly compete and the IND pick next year could end up being a serious cherry on top.
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Re: 2025 NBA DRAFT PROSPECTS 

Post#1860 » by RoteSchroder » Mon Dec 23, 2024 2:59 am

PhilBlackson wrote:I still want one of Flagg, Demin or Bailey the most...

Look at where so many of our players started coming out of college...OG, Pascal, Fred, Norm...now Scottie, Gradey, JaKobe. Imagine what they could do with those guys?!? Not saying that I wouldn't be extremely happy with Harper or Jasp because they're way more NBA ready & I'm confident both guys will be REALLY good but that's the point. Once our developmental staff brings those guys more on par with them skillwise, those guys would arguably be just as valuable, if not more so because of course of the added rebounding and MUCH needed added defensive versatility (just to get it out of the way - Bailey prob being the least likely).

But I said it before but some of you guys need to look at the Conference and who will be our competition over the next 5+ years and every one of the best teams have LENGTH. Whether it's Brown/Tatum/Porz, Paolo/Franz/Isaac, Mobley/Allen...with whatever's left of Giannis & Embiid. We can't just keep overloading on guards.

I think Harper & Jasp are closer to their ceilings than the forward prospects are but if (or when) they catch up, they would be better overall players and positionally EXACTLY what we need -- then get a back up C with potential to space the floor in the 2nd ie/ Tomislav (favorite), Big Z or Wolf and I think we'd pretty much have the foundation ready to truly compete and the IND pick next year could end up being a serious cherry on top.


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Flagg 11.2
Demin 10.1
Bailey 0.3
Harper 9.8
Kasparas 10.2

OG 8 / 8.9
Pascal 5.5 / 8.2
Fred 3.8 / 9.8 / 11.9 / 10.2
Norm 1.5 / 1.5 / 6.5 / 6.2
Scottie 7.9
Gradey 7.7
JaKobe 5.8

Going for unproven college players is like playing the lotto. Sure, you may have a 0.1% chance of lucking out (e.g. if you drafted Norm as a freshman/sophomore), but it's probably a better idea to play the odds.

For older college players who start off poorly, then improve, you now have a certainty that they can and have improved. Whereas if you go in blind on a struggling freshman, you're essentially gambling. Ace has a decent foundation of shooting and length/height, but I would think it's a good idea not to gamble with a top 6 pick. If he improves drastically in-season, that's a different story.

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