Official Scottie Barnes Thread - Part 6

[Tha Cynic]

the fast break merchant running the pnr like luka doncic... hmm

He's getting very good at reading the pnr and he's playing with the worst shooters in the league lol. At some point Masai is going to have to decide to get shooters and then we'll really see how he operates with the defense unable to cheat.

I was told barnes can't run a pick and roll tho because he has no pull up shooting.
Garbage time or not he was displaying a lot of good reads tonight

I hope Darko has realized that Barnes needs someone with half a brain and someone who can set picks for him when he plays with the bench (Poeltl).

[Clementine9]

Scottie is so much smarter than everyone else on the team. It's painful. We've built a team of athletes that don't know how to play basketball.

Do you know how many of his turnovers are from trying to pass to the spot a teammate should be in? Just willing them to be a foot or two closer to where they need to be. A bunch of his other turnovers are from guys who have terrible **** hands.

Please just build a team of basketball players again.

[Vampirate]

If Barnes shot is on, he jumps tiers as a player.

[sbsat]

If Barnes shot is on, he jumps tiers as a player.

I hope he stays aggressive driving to the net like he did today. Long strides,.floaters and deliberate misses to grab the board and finish are all good in my book and will work even of his jumper is off!

[TorontoBarneys]

Scottie is so much smarter than everyone else on the team. It's painful. We've built a team of athletes that don't know how to play basketball.

Do you know how many of his turnovers are from trying to pass to the spot a teammate should be in? Just willing them to be a foot or two closer to where they need to be. A bunch of his other turnovers are from guys who have terrible **** hands.

Please just build a team of basketball players again.

His handle isn't even that bad anymore. He had 1 possession where he genuinely turned it over because of his handles. He should probably be trusted more to actually create. He's ready.

[anotherhomer]

Scottie is so much smarter than everyone else on the team. It's painful. We've built a team of athletes that don't know how to play basketball.

Do you know how many of his turnovers are from trying to pass to the spot a teammate should be in? Just willing them to be a foot or two closer to where they need to be. A bunch of his other turnovers are from guys who have terrible **** hands.

Please just build a team of basketball players again.

raptors should definitely invest in a scottie barnes core....
he'll need a sidekick/scorer for sure

[LoveMyRaps]

[Scase]

As much as Barnes shooting has fallen, tbh, him still being at .340 from 3 on 5.3 attempts a game is an 'i'll gladly take that 10 games into the season'.

He's clearly shown that while his three point shot can grow very cold, it can also heat up. It's not league average, but I believe it's heading in the right direction.

Tbh his mid range atm is probably his best weapon looking at the stats.

Him shooting .623 at the rim and .422 from 3-10 feet will most likely improve with time.

His shooting from 16-3P will fall of by quite a bit (to what, I don't know) but his shooting from 10-16 feet should improve.

Barnes shows 3 point shooting to start every year

Rookie year after 9 attempts in October, shot 40% and 36% in Nov/Dec
last year shot 52% from 3 in October
This year came out flying in October

Seems to me his fundamentals slip as the year goes on

Looks like he bounced back tonight, and I don't mean that cause he hit all his threes, but much like you and I discussed (last week I think) his shot tonight looked like how it was in the first 7-8 games. Hopefully it's not a slip like the last couple years, and just a hiccup.

[Scase]

Scottie is so much smarter than everyone else on the team. It's painful. We've built a team of athletes that don't know how to play basketball.

Do you know how many of his turnovers are from trying to pass to the spot a teammate should be in? Just willing them to be a foot or two closer to where they need to be. A bunch of his other turnovers are from guys who have terrible **** hands.

Please just build a team of basketball players again.

Scottie sees the play develop before it develops, he's proactive and the rest of this roster is reactive. That's our problem (other than shooting) the BBIQ on this team is shockingly low.

[MiamiSPX]

We basically have a 20/10/5 guy who is only 22 and the entire basketball world knows should be surrounded by shooters and guys that can cut.

Can we please go and get said players?

[Scase]

We basically have a 20/10/5 guy who is only 22 and the entire basketball world knows should be surrounded by shooters and guys that can cut.

Can we please go and get said players?

Who also puts up 1.7/1.6 stocks, like please can we build around him yet.

[sidsid]

the fast break merchant running the pnr like luka doncic... hmm

He's getting very good at reading the pnr and he's playing with the worst shooters in the league lol. At some point Masai is going to have to decide to get shooters and then we'll really see how he operates with the defense unable to cheat.

I was told barnes can't run a pick and roll tho because he has no pull up shooting.
Garbage time or not he was displaying a lot of good reads tonight

He looks very comfortable taking the mid-range off the drive. Something Siakam hasn't gotten used to yet. Barnes hasn't had the reps playing around the elbows where Siakam has setup shop for years now and maybe that's why he's just fallen into that rhythm more easily

I keep thinking about how Harden C&S 3s look so alien to him, likely because he's just been a heliocentric player so long he might not be able to change his programming. I don't think that applies to Siakam, but I'm also hoping we keep giving Barnes a mixed diet of high post scoring along with the drives to build that versatile muscle memory.

[rapsincr]

He's getting very good at reading the pnr and he's playing with the worst shooters in the league lol. At some point Masai is going to have to decide to get shooters and then we'll really see how he operates with the defense unable to cheat.

I was told barnes can't run a pick and roll tho because he has no pull up shooting.
Garbage time or not he was displaying a lot of good reads tonight

He looks very comfortable taking the mid-range off the drive. Something Siakam hasn't gotten used to yet. Barnes hasn't had the reps playing around the elbows where Siakam has setup shop for years now and maybe that's why he's just fallen into that rhythm more easily

I keep thinking about how Harden C&S 3s look so alien to him, likely because he's just been a heliocentric player so long he might not be able to change his programming. I don't think that applies to Siakam, but I'm also hoping we keep giving Barnes a mixed diet of high post scoring along with the drives to build that versatile muscle memory.

yet? hes almost 30 and been in the league 8 years lol. siakam is what he is that this point dont you think?

[blastttOFF]

Giannis really worked well with a tall wing who can shoot. (Middleton)
Same thing with Simmons who had Tobias Harris.

wonder who this guy will be for the raptors, should we get a washed klay thompson lol

[MoneyBall]

Giannis really worked well with a tall wing who can shoot. (Middleton)
Same thing with Simmons who had Tobias Harris.

wonder who this guy will be for the raptors, should we get a washed klay thompson lol

Dick!

[sidsid]

I was told barnes can't run a pick and roll tho because he has no pull up shooting.
Garbage time or not he was displaying a lot of good reads tonight

He looks very comfortable taking the mid-range off the drive. Something Siakam hasn't gotten used to yet. Barnes hasn't had the reps playing around the elbows where Siakam has setup shop for years now and maybe that's why he's just fallen into that rhythm more easily

I keep thinking about how Harden C&S 3s look so alien to him, likely because he's just been a heliocentric player so long he might not be able to change his programming. I don't think that applies to Siakam, but I'm also hoping we keep giving Barnes a mixed diet of high post scoring along with the drives to build that versatile muscle memory.

yet? hes almost 30 and been in the league 8 years lol. siakam is what he is that this point dont you think?

Siakam only started taking jumpers in his 3rd year, and mostly just corner 3s. He only started seriously taking pull-ups in year 4. He's had a handful of years as a primary option.

Harden has been "the system" for more than the entirety of Siakam's career. Some of that stuff should be less ingrained.

[rapsincr]

He looks very comfortable taking the mid-range off the drive. Something Siakam hasn't gotten used to yet. Barnes hasn't had the reps playing around the elbows where Siakam has setup shop for years now and maybe that's why he's just fallen into that rhythm more easily

I keep thinking about how Harden C&S 3s look so alien to him, likely because he's just been a heliocentric player so long he might not be able to change his programming. I don't think that applies to Siakam, but I'm also hoping we keep giving Barnes a mixed diet of high post scoring along with the drives to build that versatile muscle memory.

yet? hes almost 30 and been in the league 8 years lol. siakam is what he is that this point dont you think?

Siakam only started taking jumpers in his 3rd year, and mostly just corner 3s. He only started seriously taking pull-ups in year 4. He's had a handful of years as a primary option.

Harden has been "the system" for more than the entirety of Siakam's career. Some of that stuff should be less ingrained.

i just dont see it personally.

[Tha Cynic]

It's just so odd to see Barnes parked in the corner while Flynn and Achiuwa are the decision makers with that bench unit.

And maybe it's just Darko wanting to see what Achiuwa can do since he missed a bunch of time. But we have seen him for years and know he is low IQ and shouldn't be that guy.

Get Barnes in the hub and park Achiuwa in a 3 pt spot. Of course ideally, Achiuwa and Boucher are not in the floor at the same time.

That's not the idea. The idea is that they initiate but the ball moves around and finds the best players. But, when the IQ of the players running it is low, you get a fadeaway with hand in face from Boucher and straight line drive into traffic from Aichuwa. They need smarter players.

[Harcore Fenton Mun]

It's just so odd to see Barnes parked in the corner while Flynn and Achiuwa are the decision makers with that bench unit.

And maybe it's just Darko wanting to see what Achiuwa can do since he missed a bunch of time. But we have seen him for years and know he is low IQ and shouldn't be that guy.

Get Barnes in the hub and park Achiuwa in a 3 pt spot. Of course ideally, Achiuwa and Boucher are not in the floor at the same time.

That's not the idea. The idea is that they initiate but the ball moves around and finds the best players. But, when the IQ of the players running it is low, you get a fadeaway with hand in face from Boucher and straight line drive into traffic from Aichuwa. They need smarter players.

I wonder how much of our offensive problems fall on Jama. He's suppose to be the offensive specialist.

[C-R-E-A-M-]

There’s a universe where we traded Kyle for Maxey in 2020, Siakam for Haliburton in 2022

Scottie-Maxey-Haliburton and 5 chips