Official Scottie All Star Barnes Thread 9

[YogurtProducer]

Good luck finding one. I too wish for delusional things.

Are you ever not a **** ****?

I literally started this convo by saying:

Likely not happening until next season at the earliest, and if I am being honest might not ever happen. Just gotta keep internally building and hope the stars align.

[HumbleRen]

Good luck finding one. I too wish for delusional things.

Are you ever not a **** ****?

I literally started this convo by saying:

Likely not happening until next season at the earliest, and if I am being honest might not ever happen. Just gotta keep internally building and hope the stars align.

I’m just laughing at how dismissive you are about Ingram like he didn’t save Scottie, IQ and RJ from embarrassment on offence.

Maybe give him more grace instead of saying dumb **** like we don’t need him.

[YogurtProducer]

Sure, but a decade of prior performance takes precedence in my mind.

That, and for the first 18 games, he was at 58.5%, which is +0.2% rTS.

So, as Humble noted, we're talking about a shooting slump and likely nothing else, so judging him on that seems... premature and hasty.

A decade of precedence that tells you what? That he is a league average efficiency scorer? His ftr and 3pt% is low. Other than that, he is playing exactly how he has his entire career.

Lowry averaged 20+ ppg in two seasons, and only once more averaged more than 17.9 ppg (in the 2020 shortened season). And he was under 58% TS in that first 20+ ppg season. Just so we're on the same page of particulars.

He averaged 19.7ppg on 59.8TS% between 2015 and 2018.

But either way. 17.9ppg is such a cherry picked thing when if you change it to 17.7ppg it goes from 3 occasions to 5, and at 17.0 goes to 6 lol

"Plenty" is a strong word, remembering that he's a guy who is extremely adept at attacking with a live dribble. Those guys are less common, and less realistic targets..

So are a lot of players.

Ingram has put up a putrid 0.83ppp on iso's this year. One of the worst among high isolation rate players.
In 2024 it was 0.96. In 2023 it was 0.94.

He is a fine player, and plays a style we desperately need. But he more Demar than Kawhi. Fine transitional piece in ours eras, but he is never going to be here when we are a serious team.

I'd take Booker over Ingram as well, but he isn't an option. Mitchell, too, but Cleveland would laugh in your face trying to acquire him with our assets. So he also isn't a reasonable point of discussion. I doubt Boston's going to give up Brown, but prior to this season, no one was saying he was a better scorer than someone like Ingram because he was rocking 23.5 ppg on 100 TS+ the past 6 seasons, which is very similar to Ingram.

Again, never said any of those guy were obtainable. Just that I would prefer them.

But if a trade for a guy like that comes available - you are willing to move Ingram without 2nd thought. I was just replying to Humble who suggested an improvement over Ingram = Kawhi. my point being there is a lot of guys better than Ingram, worse than Kawhi.

[YogurtProducer]

Good luck finding one. I too wish for delusional things.

Are you ever not a **** ****?

I literally started this convo by saying:

Likely not happening until next season at the earliest, and if I am being honest might not ever happen. Just gotta keep internally building and hope the stars align.

I’m just laughing at how dismissive you are about Ingram like he didn’t save Scottie, IQ and RJ from embarrassment on offence.

Maybe give him more grace instead of saying dumb **** like we don’t need him.

Do you read my posts? Like in real life do you keep your mouth shut long enough to even listen to others? To quote myself AGAIN:

I have no misconceptions that we need his skill set, but we don’t need Ingram.

Ingram needs to be the next to go. His best games you can see the vision of this future team, Ingram just isn't consistent enough to be that guy. But the next time a scorer comes up we need to be offering Ingram + every pick we got to get a core of IQ/Barnes/STUD as I legit think that could be a top 3 worth building around.

Like don't respond to me if you're gong to just to be an asshat, and completely disregard what is being said.

Can't wait for us to win a few games in a row so you don't come around again for a while.

Warned. Personal attack

[Duffman100]

Are you ever not a **** ****?

I literally started this convo by saying:

I’m just laughing at how dismissive you are about Ingram like he didn’t save Scottie, IQ and RJ from embarrassment on offence.

Maybe give him more grace instead of saying dumb **** like we don’t need him.

Do you read my posts? Like in real life do you keep your mouth shut long enough to even listen to others? To quote myself AGAIN:

I have no misconceptions that we need his skill set, but we don’t need Ingram.

Ingram needs to be the next to go. His best games you can see the vision of this future team, Ingram just isn't consistent enough to be that guy. But the next time a scorer comes up we need to be offering Ingram + every pick we got to get a core of IQ/Barnes/STUD as I legit think that could be a top 3 worth building around.

Like don't respond to me if you're gong to just to be an asshat, and completely disregard what is being said.

Can't wait for us to win a few games in a row so you don't come around again for a while.

Warned. Personal attack

Alright let's take a breath and stop with the personal attacks. Maybe take the night away from each other.

[HumbleRen]

Are you ever not a **** ****?

I literally started this convo by saying:

I’m just laughing at how dismissive you are about Ingram like he didn’t save Scottie, IQ and RJ from embarrassment on offence.

Maybe give him more grace instead of saying dumb **** like we don’t need him.

Do you read my posts? Like in real life do you keep your mouth shut long enough to even listen to others? To quote myself AGAIN:

I have no misconceptions that we need his skill set, but we don’t need Ingram.

Ingram needs to be the next to go. His best games you can see the vision of this future team, Ingram just isn't consistent enough to be that guy. But the next time a scorer comes up we need to be offering Ingram + every pick we got to get a core of IQ/Barnes/STUD as I legit think that could be a top 3 worth building around.

Like don't respond to me if you're gong to just to be an asshat, and completely disregard what is being said.

Can't wait for us to win a few games in a row so you don't come around again for a while.

Warned. Personal attack

You’re being dismissive and already can’t wait to replace him lol. Maybe take your own advice when you defend IQ when people say he should traded and apply it with BI.

Dude was inactive for basically an entire year and you won’t even give him grace when he’s in a slump. Hilarious.