Summer League Thread Part 3: Aug 11 GS @8pm TSN 4

B-Ball Freak · Post #1881 » by **B-Ball Freak** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:13 am

bon wrote:
simple_jack wrote:
bon wrote:I love armchair Summer League scouts who just started watching these players lol

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Lol I’ve been watching summer league since 03.

I’m not saying Barnes is a bad player or a terrible pick but I think we missed. It happens.

And I know watching summer league to ignore a few things like turnovers, assist, fg%, points, etc.

Games are usually sloppy because of the talent. I watch for athleticism, fluidity, court vision, and ability to score and get to the basket.

Barnes will look better in games with better spacing. But I think Suggs was the pick
You've been watching since 03 and you're STILL making definitive statements on guy's careers based on a couple of games? That's tuff

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I thought I was the only one who noticed that was weird, dudes been watching for close 20 years but he's determining how good a kids gonna be after ONE AND HALF summer league games.

Wargreymon · Post #1882 » by **Wargreymon** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:13 am

Scott Hall wrote:I'm not sold on Patrick Mutumbo

I don't like his substitution patterns thats for sure

normgod6 · Post #1883 » by **normgod6** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:13 am

i thought barnes showed great flashes driving the ball and drawing fouls. His off the dribble game looked promising. He was less active on defense than the first game but im not worried about his defense at all

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yodamaster · Post #1884 » by **yodamaster** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

RaptorPride wrote:
NBA48mins wrote:I'm sure the Raptors coaching asked flynn to be more aggressive with own shot.

Exactly who else do you want taking shots on this team right now. He's the best guy out there.

we are missing bonga. :lol:

DonDoolie · Post #1885 » by **DonDoolie** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

We have no point guard this year it's gona be a nightmare watching vanvleet and Flynn have a chuckathon every game

nobay · Post #1886 » by **nobay** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

lol I watched some of this game and noticed Barnes didn't get many touches, but he also didn't have a strong confident finish if he got bumped even with his strong body in the lane. And then I saw the Orlando game and Suggs did alright..his unathletic putback was pretty good. /s. But honestly, the bipolar nature as stated by a lot of the fans is just...wow. I'm a Suggs guy and always will be...but I think everybody has to realize this is SL and Barnes is a PROJECT. He's doesn't have a bag offensively and this is what needs to develop. As I've always said since the pick..give it 3 YEARS. In the meantime, it'll be a few rough seasons.

RapsAndJays21 · Post #1887 » by **RapsAndJays21** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

Flynn trash, Kuminga amazing... numbers basically identical lol

Los_29 · Post #1888 » by **Los_29** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

Blacklash2k4 wrote:
Los_29 wrote:It's amazing how quickly this board can turn into a toxic wasteland. My god, the things that people believe in on here is unbelievable.

You know how other NBA fans say that the Raptors are one of the most toxic fanbase? I get it! We are sometimes! We’re super passionate about our team, but we are hella toxic sometimes!

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Yeah for sure. Too many bandwagoners with horrible takes.

720 · Post #1889 » by **720** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

PT416 wrote:Gonna be a fun time developing young players with Fred VanFlynn running the offense. God help us.

That's an oxymoron.

Blacklash2k4 · Post #1890 » by **Blacklash2k4** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

supra2k8 wrote:Can't over react over summer league games, good or bad

It’s natural to overreact but one bad summer league game is not gonna define his career! Also not a reason to give up on the kid!

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Grew · Post #1891 » by **Grew** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

the unit that came in after our starters tanked this game away for us lol. Overall hard to watch from the reffing, broadcasting to the execution and rotations.

Randle McMurphy · Post #1892 » by **Randle McMurphy** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

Jenga_tDot wrote:
Young_Buc wrote:I don't know how the board went from furious that Barnes was taken over Suggs to Barnes was the right pick over Suggs. You were actually right the first time.

cognitive dissonance

Bingo.

NinjaBro · Post #1893 » by **NinjaBro** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

I don't see the Barnes/Kawhi comparisons

raptorstime · Post #1894 » by **raptorstime** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

Young_Buc wrote:I don't know how the board went from furious that Barnes was taken over Suggs to Barnes was the right pick over Suggs. You were actually right the first time.

it was coping mechanism

TOStateofMind · Post #1895 » by **TOStateofMind** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:14 am

as expected, the overreactions will be flipping and flopping game to game :lol:

720 · Post #1896 » by **720** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:15 am

Wargreymon wrote:
Scott Hall wrote:I'm not sold on Patrick Mutumbo

I don't like his substitution patterns thats for sure

Clown rotations.

Oakvillehoops · Post #1897 » by **Oakvillehoops** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:15 am

NRSV wrote:
bon wrote:
simple_jack wrote:
Lol I’ve been watching summer league since 03.

I’m not saying Barnes is a bad player or a terrible pick but I think we missed. It happens.

And I know watching summer league to ignore a few things like turnovers, assist, fg%, points, etc.

Games are usually sloppy because of the talent. I watch for athleticism, fluidity, court vision, and ability to score and get to the basket.

Barnes will look better in games with better spacing. But I think Suggs was the pick
You've been watching since 03 and you're STILL making definitive statements on guy's careers based on a couple of games? That's tuff

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Some of us just know what we’re looking at.

Bust

Why do you insist we are making assessments only off of this game. Go watch his college tape, he is zero offensive game. Most of his buckets are so awkward they would never happen vs nba players

YelloC · Post #1898 » by **YelloC** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:15 am

The histrionics on this board is a microcosm of why the pandemic has lasted so long.
People waste too much emotion on things of little importance and once they’ve staked a position, they’re too stubborn to admit they overreacted.
This place is downright disturbing.

RaptorNews · Post #1899 » by **RaptorNews** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:15 am

Randle McMurphy wrote:
bon wrote:
Randle McMurphy wrote:I’ve watched Suggs and Barnes play over a dozen times each in college. One has an offensive game in the half court and one doesn’t.

The one that does isn’t the Raptor.
You might need to watch more tape if you think Suggs was a great half court shot creator at Gonzaga

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Did I say Suggs was a great half court shot creator? No I said he had a half court offensive game. Barnes doesn’t even have a semblance of that.

It’s not like Masai and Bobby are shocked by that. They didn’t draft Barnes thinking he was a finished project

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #1900 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu Aug 12, 2021 2:15 am

We've learned so far that Barnes is best when you put the ball in his hands. I guess today's game they wanted to see what Banton could do at PG for some reason lol