Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search.

[Spates]

I've seen enough. Jordi it is!!! Let's get it!

Not so fast, I never trust anything from Sacramento after the Sacramento Screw Job. Why is this guy trying to pawn Jordi off on us? What's in it for them? Unless that's what they want us to think...

Nah it's legit. OP's right about Sabonis and Jordi also helped with Denver's offense that we're seeing today.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/22/jordi-fernandez-nuggets-assistant/

Fernandez’s job this summer was to teach the Nuggets’ style of play — spacing the floor and playing through their big men on offense, along with protecting the paint and defending the 3-point line on defense. But he relished his return to concocting his own practice structure and quickly blending players into a team, a flashback to his G League days.

During one of those early sessions, Fernandez reviewed an offensive set and the proper defense to counter it. That was an opportunity for Fernandez to subconsciously dip back into his sports psychology research about how a play’s effectiveness can be determined by the team’s behavioral patterns before the shot goes up.

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

[sidsid]

Not so fast, I never trust anything from Sacramento after the Sacramento Screw Job. Why is this guy trying to pawn Jordi off on us? What's in it for them? Unless that's what they want us to think...

Nah it's legit. OP's right about Sabonis and Jordi also helped with Denver's offense that we're seeing today.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/22/jordi-fernandez-nuggets-assistant/

Fernandez’s job this summer was to teach the Nuggets’ style of play — spacing the floor and playing through their big men on offense, along with protecting the paint and defending the 3-point line on defense. But he relished his return to concocting his own practice structure and quickly blending players into a team, a flashback to his G League days.

During one of those early sessions, Fernandez reviewed an offensive set and the proper defense to counter it. That was an opportunity for Fernandez to subconsciously dip back into his sports psychology research about how a play’s effectiveness can be determined by the team’s behavioral patterns before the shot goes up.

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

[traps#10]

Nah it's legit. OP's right about Sabonis and Jordi also helped with Denver's offense that we're seeing today.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/22/jordi-fernandez-nuggets-assistant/

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

[lolwut]

Nah it's legit. OP's right about Sabonis and Jordi also helped with Denver's offense that we're seeing today.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/22/jordi-fernandez-nuggets-assistant/

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

A year ago, that would be satire.

[pharring]

I would be happy with a Jordi hire. And I do think he fits what I think Masai would be looking for, which is someone to be "under his thumb" as opposed to a coach with status sufficient to start pushing back.

My one remaining concern with Jordi is that he is not an ex-NBA player. I do think current NBA players tune in more to ex-NBA players as coaches than they do non-former players (with noted exceptions of Greg P, Eric S). I think Jordi would need to be paired with a solid ex-NBA player on the bench. A respected voice. Has there been someone like that in Jordi's path thus far? I'm not a fan of when Front Offices just hand their HC a set of assistants (though I would of course accept Kyle in that role immediately!)

[Spates]

Nah it's legit. OP's right about Sabonis and Jordi also helped with Denver's offense that we're seeing today.

https://www.denverpost.com/2018/07/22/jordi-fernandez-nuggets-assistant/

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

The inside-out hub centric offense is growing in favour. And it's quite brilliant when structured well. I think Scottie can be a better version of Sabonis with perimeter skills. I'd be happy with Jordi.

[Boardbreaker]

I would be happy with a Jordi hire. And I do think he fits what I think Masai would be looking for, which is someone to be "under his thumb" as opposed to a coach with status sufficient to start pushing back.

My one remaining concern with Jordi is that he is not an ex-NBA player. I do think current NBA players tune in more to ex-NBA players as coaches than they do non-former players (with noted exceptions of Greg P, Eric S). I think Jordi would need to be paired with a solid ex-NBA player on the bench. A respected voice. Has there been someone like that in Jordi's path thus far? I'm not a fan of when Front Offices just hand their HC a set of assistants (though I would of course accept Kyle in that role immediately!)

Tbh I think this is why guys like Nash and JJ have been interviewed. I feel like the team is sending out feelers whether they would be willing to come in as assistants for a less tenured head coaching choice.

[Rumi]

I won't be disappointed with any names we've been liked with.

I'm a tad bit apprehensive about Nash but feel he is too bright an offensive mind. He would need a strong lead assistant to implement good defensive schemes.

[ItsDanger]

If your players will only respond to a former player as coach, you should probably get rid of them. Concentrate on getting those 2-3 players that can form your core and their attitude can direct the team's course.

[ruckus]

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

Can we stop with the Jokic comparisons? That's just creating unrealistic expectations for a guy that doesn't have the elite court vision and passing ability that the best player in the league does.

If we run our offense through Scottie as the primary playmaker, we're gonna have a bad time. A more reasonable comparison is Sabonis who is the secondary playmaker to Fox.

[sidsid]

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

A year ago, that would be satire.

Very true! Shows what the importance of a changing structure can make.

Our bench mob year structure vs. any other year in the last decade is just night and day. It's why I initially had high hopes for Nurse when he was linked to it. Important lesson there is that there are no guarantees.

[traps#10]

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

Can we stop with the Jokic comparisons? That's just creating unrealistic expectations for a guy that doesn't have the elite court vision and passing ability that the best player in the league does.

If we run our offense through Scottie as the primary playmaker, we're gonna have a bad time. A more reasonable comparison is Sabonis who is the secondary playmaker to Fox.

And who’s the primary playmaker? FVV? Lmao

[Duffman100]

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

Can we stop with the Jokic comparisons? That's just creating unrealistic expectations for a guy that doesn't have the elite court vision and passing ability that the best player in the league does.

If we run our offense through Scottie as the primary playmaker, we're gonna have a bad time. A more reasonable comparison is Sabonis who is the secondary playmaker to Fox.

And who’s the primary playmaker? FVV? Lmao

Well right now it's Pascal.

[Spates]

Tremendous. Emphasis on quality of play and generation of good looks. If you've been curious why the team and the arena has had no pep — this is it. Horrific shot quality. A general inability to work in unison to produce a good look.

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

But it would be a mistake to try and make him Jokic. Embrace his versatility and help him refine a wide berth of skills. I think teams should look at Miami. They can run sets through everyone on the floor. Never be content with players doing one thing. Scottie can hopefully show us growth as a elbow hub, a short roller, pnr handler, corner shooter. Find and develop players to complement strengths and provide productive play in areas of weakness. I.e Bufkin curling off interior screens, Jett/Hawkins as movement shooters, Jaime Jaquez as an isolation scorer, Amen/Ausar Thompson's insane rim pressure, Sidy as an off the catch attacker.

I'm just rambling. Synergistic squads with interchangeable roles is the way. Players are getting so talented, leveraged their strengths.

[WuTang_CMB]

The Nick Nurse-to-Philadelphia chatter was certainly starting to bubble in league coaching circles as Sunday night dribbled into Monday.

via stein

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

What is with the defensiveness in every thread? Everyone isn’t out to get you.

You're out to get me every time I utter a word. You involved yourself here regarding the amount of times he was booked for DUI and turn this into an argument over a technicality of what I said in my OP.

Calling someone an alcoholic with no idea about their situation is not a technicality. Grow up.

Defending people who admitted to recklessly endangering others lives multiple times is pathetic. You're a DUI sympathizer and you're the one who needs to grow up. You could have easily just said "ah yes I see that he was booked twice for DUI" after googling it, instead you bait me by changing the subject from "amount of times booked for dui" to "alcoholism" with zero acknowledgement that he did in fact get booked twice for it, looking for other ways to slam my post because I was in fact correct and then ban ME for "baiting and weird". Why is every single warning and now ban from you and directly related to challenging your abuse? You look for problems and create them instead of solving them.

Oh and nobody is saying he IS an alcoholic (as you accused me of saying which is a lie) or that he shouldn't be considered for a job, all I said is that he WAS clearly struggling with alcohol (question mark according to you even though everything points to it and you can add in the hereditary evidence as his sister was booked for DUI twice as well, remembering that you only get caught doing most things very infrequently even if you perform them routinely) and it's a blemish on his record. Thanks for the time out and "grow up" shot at me before you exercised your tyranny yet again, very professional - and good job defending a multiple DUI convict and turning this into something big when all I said is that it's a "blemish on his record". Absolute lunacy. One of my childhood friends DIED after getting hit by a drunk driver and I have zero sympathy for that BS. Onto the ignore list you go.

pmig to avoid derailing

[LoveMyRaps]

The Nick Nurse-to-Philadelphia chatter was certainly starting to bubble in league coaching circles as Sunday night dribbled into Monday.

via stein

Yeah, after he pulled out of the Bucks coaching race, I was certain he was a lock for the 76ers or Suns job.

[ruckus]

A Denver and Sac coaching tree. Hub offenses around talented passers. Motion, etc.

Best case scenario I've heard so far. Didn't have a dog in the race yet, but this is checking all the important boxes.

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

But it would be a mistake to try and make him Jokic. Embrace his versatility and help him refine a wide berth of skills. I think teams should look at Miami. They can run sets through everyone on the floor. Never be content with players doing one thing. Scottie can hopefully show us growth as a elbow hub, a short roller, pnr handler, corner shooter. Find and develop players to complement strengths and provide productive play in areas of weakness. I.e Bufkin curling off interior screens, Jett/Hawkins as movement shooters, Jaime Jaquez as an isolation scorer, Amen/Ausar Thompson's insane rim pressure, Sidy as an off the catch attacker.

I'm just rambling. Synergistic squads with interchangeable roles is the way. Players are getting so talented, leveraged their strengths.

Wasn't that the whole premise of vision 69? Similar sized players with multiple skills to maximize offensive and defensive versatility.

It sounds great in theory but as we saw this season, it's hard to maintain that level of synergy. Plus Nurse did himself no favors playing his rotations as tight as he did.

[WuTang_CMB]

The Nick Nurse-to-Philadelphia chatter was certainly starting to bubble in league coaching circles as Sunday night dribbled into Monday.

via stein

Yeah, after he pulled out of the Bucks coaching race, I was certain he was a lock for the 76ers or Suns job.

He didnt pull out. He was third. Klutch just trying to spin

[Spates]

Scottie Barnes can be used like Jokic, he should be the initiator of the offense utilizing his vision, passing ability and finishing skills down low.

But it would be a mistake to try and make him Jokic. Embrace his versatility and help him refine a wide berth of skills. I think teams should look at Miami. They can run sets through everyone on the floor. Never be content with players doing one thing. Scottie can hopefully show us growth as a elbow hub, a short roller, pnr handler, corner shooter. Find and develop players to complement strengths and provide productive play in areas of weakness. I.e Bufkin curling off interior screens, Jett/Hawkins as movement shooters, Jaime Jaquez as an isolation scorer, Amen/Ausar Thompson's insane rim pressure, Sidy as an off the catch attacker.

I'm just rambling. Synergistic squads with interchangeable roles is the way. Players are getting so talented, leveraged their strengths.

Wasn't that the whole premise of vision 69? Similar sized players with multiple skills to maximize offensive and defensive versatility.

It sounds great in theory but as we saw this season, it's hard to maintain that level of synergy. Plus Nurse did himself no favors playing his rotations as tight as he did.

Yeah, it's a great idea. You only go as far as your talent. Raptors weren't good. Swap Tatum and Brown for OG and Pascal and the results would look a little different.