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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1881 » by niQ » Fri May 10, 2024 6:08 pm

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mihaic wrote:My take is probably not popular but I think we may draft durisic


Some people are also high on Djurisic and the tape looks pretty good. Much better looking jumper form than Topic.

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Looks pretty good. Haven't seen/read anything about him. What do they say about his cons?
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1882 » by DG88 » Fri May 10, 2024 6:24 pm

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Post#1883 » by Thaddy » Fri May 10, 2024 6:50 pm

That shows we're open to smaller guards. It likely means Dillingham and Sheppard are in play if we're picking at 6th. A good back up point guard would unlock the 2 PG line up which would help Darko in implementing his system.
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Post#1884 » by Dalek » Fri May 10, 2024 6:51 pm

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Beekman is a high level defender and really made strides as scorer this year. I have been tracking him for a while. He has a college career somewhat similar to Malcolm Brogdon who also played on Virginia. He's a guy we also liked back in his draft year.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1885 » by Smalltown » Fri May 10, 2024 6:59 pm

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Beekman is a high level defender and really made strides as scorer this year. I have been tracking him for a while. He has a college career somewhat similar to Malcolm Brogdon who also played on Virginia. He's a guy we also liked back in his draft year.


I mentioned him elsewhere as a summer league invite or potential UDFA. The defensive chops make him at least worth a look to see how he stacks up against others in the draft process.
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Post#1886 » by ATLTimekeeper » Fri May 10, 2024 7:14 pm

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This post shocked me a bit and really makes me more of a KJ Simpson backer at 31. This guy pulled dribble jumper data which is a marker for self creation and he really stands out.

Reed Sheppard has elite percentages but KJ nearly doubled his shot totals and is still over 40%. Is the one inch of difference all that much between these two?


Reed can dunk more but KJ's 1st step looks elite. KJ might be better value at #31.


Neither are going to be a 1st option in the NBA, so I'd take the younger more well-rounded player.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1887 » by Jcity08 » Fri May 10, 2024 7:24 pm

Tankathon results: Keep pick 4 times, Lose pick 6 times

Keep: 1, 3, 3, 3

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Post#1888 » by MEDIC » Fri May 10, 2024 7:33 pm

Carrington's game reminds me of Gary Trent Jr.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1889 » by Dalek » Fri May 10, 2024 7:50 pm

niQ wrote:
Dalek wrote:
mihaic wrote:My take is probably not popular but I think we may draft durisic


Some people are also high on Djurisic and the tape looks pretty good. Much better looking jumper form than Topic.

Read on Twitter


Looks pretty good. Haven't seen/read anything about him. What do they say about his cons?


Good size at 6'7 and he did the Combine last year. He is a well-known prospect which works against him a bit. I think he is a late seconder.

While he looks great on film he only took a small leap in shooting this year. He is still sub-35% which is an area he needed to develop. The plus is that on Mega he is letting it fly and has had some big playoff games recently.
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1890 » by Dalek » Fri May 10, 2024 8:00 pm

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Dalek wrote:
Read on Twitter


This post shocked me a bit and really makes me more of a KJ Simpson backer at 31. This guy pulled dribble jumper data which is a marker for self creation and he really stands out.

Reed Sheppard has elite percentages but KJ nearly doubled his shot totals and is still over 40%. Is the one inch of difference all that much between these two?


Reed can dunk more but KJ's 1st step looks elite. KJ might be better value at #31.


Reed had 5/6 dunks vs KJ who had 11/15. Also a 27 FTR to 36 FTR favoring KJ. Those make me think KJ is a bigger threat at the rim.

Reed had an amazing college season like his dad did but he is a bad investment for a top ten lotto. Much rather have the older KJ at 31 but there are a number of options there.
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Post#1891 » by Rapsfan07 » Fri May 10, 2024 10:31 pm

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Dalek wrote:
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This post shocked me a bit and really makes me more of a KJ Simpson backer at 31. This guy pulled dribble jumper data which is a marker for self creation and he really stands out.

Reed Sheppard has elite percentages but KJ nearly doubled his shot totals and is still over 40%. Is the one inch of difference all that much between these two?


Reed can dunk more but KJ's 1st step looks elite. KJ might be better value at #31.


Reed had 5/6 dunks vs KJ who had 11/15. Also a 27 FTR to 36 FTR favoring KJ. Those make me think KJ is a bigger threat at the rim.

Reed had an amazing college season like his dad did but he is a bad investment for a top ten lotto. Much rather have the older KJ at 31 but there are a number of options there.


I think the same thing. I like Reed Sheppard and the team that takes him is going to be very, very happy. IMO, Sheppard and Clingan have the highest floors in the top part of the draft.

But Toronto needs to swing big with this pick, if we manage to keep it. It's going to be a long time before we get this high of pick again so we can't afford to be conservative here. We gotta go for the guy who has the greatest chance to be a star.

If that guy is not a guard, we have options later in the draft. Although I'm beginning to doubt that Carter and McCain will be available at #19, I think Collier could be and we'd also have shot at guys like Sallis and Simpson at the top of the second round.

Plan 1: #6 - wing, #19 - big , #31 - guard
Plan 2: #6 - guard, #19 - big, #31 - wing
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Re: 2024 NBA DRAFT THREAD 3 

Post#1892 » by WuTang_CMB » Fri May 10, 2024 10:44 pm

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Post#1893 » by OAKLEY_2 » Fri May 10, 2024 11:04 pm

Rapsfan07 wrote:
Dalek wrote:
Psubs wrote:
Reed can dunk more but KJ's 1st step looks elite. KJ might be better value at #31.


Reed had 5/6 dunks vs KJ who had 11/15. Also a 27 FTR to 36 FTR favoring KJ. Those make me think KJ is a bigger threat at the rim.

Reed had an amazing college season like his dad did but he is a bad investment for a top ten lotto. Much rather have the older KJ at 31 but there are a number of options there.


I think the same thing. I like Reed Sheppard and the team that takes him is going to be very, very happy. IMO, Sheppard and Clingan have the highest floors in the top part of the draft.

But Toronto needs to swing big with this pick, if we manage to keep it. It's going to be a long time before we get this high of pick again so we can't afford to be conservative here. We gotta go for the guy who has the greatest chance to be a star.

If that guy is not a guard, we have options later in the draft. Although I'm beginning to doubt that Carter and McCain will be available at #19, I think Collier could be and we'd also have shot at guys like Sallis and Simpson at the top of the second round.

Plan 1: #6 - wing, #19 - big , #31 - guard
Plan 2: #6 - guard, #19 - big, #31 - wing


If we get in odds are that we'd place higher than 6 or the no odds 5. So we would be picking top 4. I agree long wings like Cody Williams are in abundance. Have to think if Raps are prioritizing defence then Castle would be in play and, maybe Risacher.

At 19. Yes a big even if we landed say Risacher at 3 or 4 then someone like Edey or Missi or Fillipowski or Tyler Smith or Salaun. 31st is for KJ or Carrington guards. Maybe Kolek drops or we like Spanish team Nunez.
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Post#1894 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 11, 2024 12:16 am

Carrington is overrated.

0.6 steals per 36 when you're a 6'5 guard w/ long wingspan? Pass. Not to mention his rim finishing is appalling too. His one overwhelming strength is his midrange jumpshot but there are so many red flags that despite being so young it's hard to overlook them.
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Post#1895 » by ArthurVandelay » Sat May 11, 2024 12:23 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Carrington is overrated.

0.6 steals per 36 when you're a 6'5 guard w/ long wingspan? Pass. Not to mention his rim finishing is appalling too. His one overwhelming strength is his midrange jumpshot but there are so many red flags that despite being so young it's hard to overlook them.


Add a 1.3DBPM and 3.9BPM and that is a big pass
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Post#1896 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 11, 2024 12:33 am

Just checked Carrington's HS stats and they're interesting but he played poor competition so it kinda ruined the initial wow factor. Nique Clifford also didn't play elite comp in HS but won GPOTY regardless as his production was insane.

I think the deeper I've looked into Clifford he really might be worth swinging on even as early as 19. He's risky because his development was really stunted at Colorado but he was an extremely decorated HS player, supposedly was helped by a life coach and was able to really start to show his inner talent more at CSU. He's a high-feel two-way player who moves really well.

With Nique my two questions with him are - how is he doing mentally and w/ self-confidence and can he become a more consistent shooter.

Regardless of the shooting inconsistency and whether that gets remedied or if he runs hot/cold he brings value to the floor.
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Post#1897 » by GoRapstheoriginal » Sat May 11, 2024 12:43 am

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Post#1898 » by RoteSchroder » Sat May 11, 2024 12:47 am

Players I don't like who people are high on: Saluan, Chomche, Carrington, KyShawn

I think Carrington could make it as a role player though
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Post#1899 » by REJECTEDBYCLARK » Sat May 11, 2024 12:51 am

Here are some college names that come up when you query for

USG >20
TS% >.600
ORB% >4
AST% >15
STL% >2
BPM >8

SR

NIQUE CLIFFORD
Josh Hart (best comp)
Delon Wright

JR

George Hill
David Roddy
Grant Williams
Dean Wade
Victor Oladipo
JONATHAN MOGBO

SO

Ja Morant
James Harden
Tyrese Haliburton
Brandin Podziemski
Donte DiVincenzo

FR

Zion Williamson
Collin Murray-Boyles
Greg Monroe

Granted a lot of the failed players who made the qualification as seniors played awful schedules in their particular year of production whereas Nique Clifford's SOS rating was 7.28 which is stronger than any other senior who qualified outside of Hart and Wright I believe.

There is a chance Nique is just coming into his own after wasted years at COLO and with proper development could become a talent worthy of #19 in hindsight.
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Post#1900 » by Yallbecrazy » Sat May 11, 2024 1:18 am

REJECTEDBYCLARK wrote:Here are some college names that come up when you query for

USG >20
TS% >.600
ORB% >4
AST% >15
STL% >2
BPM >8

SR

NIQUE CLIFFORD
Josh Hart (best comp)
Delon Wright

JR

George Hill
David Roddy
Grant Williams
Dean Wade
Victor Oladipo
JONATHAN MOGBO

SO

Ja Morant
James Harden
Tyrese Haliburton
Brandin Podziemski
Donte DiVincenzo

FR

Zion Williamson
Collin Murray-Boyles
Greg Monroe

Granted a lot of the failed players who made the qualification as seniors played awful schedules in their particular year of production whereas Nique Clifford's SOS rating was 7.28 which is stronger than any other senior who qualified outside of Hart and Wright I believe.

There is a chance Nique is just coming into his own after wasted years at COLO and with proper development could become a talent worthy of #19 in hindsight.



I am surprised that a MWC team had a SOS that high so I do question the numbers somewhat. He was pretty bad the rest of his collegiate career, like don't get invited to play in a top 10 European league bad so I do question how real the jump was from year 3 to year 4.
On one hand I do like to see players take jumps as it shows they are getting better, but he was really bad for 3 years despite getting significant minutes and then all of a sudden excellent after dropping down in competition. I wouldn't consider him at #19, but luckily a team could invite him for a workout and if they like what they see then #31 could be in play.

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