The Gradey Dick Thread Part 2

[PerfectJab]

Still not completely sold due to how early it is (NBA Teams will adjust) but he's definitely a lot better than I thought he'd be.

To be able to suck so bad and come back is a very huge thing. It's something that's rare especially so early in a player's career.

[pingpongrac]

In his recent 18-point performances, Gradey is averaging just 22 MPG despite shooting a combined ~70% from the field and behind the arc in those 3 games. He should probably be playing more than 20 minutes most nights, especially on nights where he is making plays all over the court like against the Pacers, but I think he's going to explode for 30+ where he's hot and Darko eventually gives him some extra minutes.

I never wavered on Gradey becoming a good player eventually, but it's extremely surprising how drastically he turned his rookie season around and it seems like he's only going to keep getting better the rest of the season and the rest of his career. It's hard to see him being a bust with so much basketball smarts and awareness in addition to possessing a high-level skill in shooting.

[djsunyc]

In his recent 18-point performances, Gradey is averaging just 22 MPG despite shooting a combined ~70% from the field and behind the arc in those 3 games. He should probably be playing more than 20 minutes most nights, especially on nights where he is making plays all over the court like against the Pacers, but I think he's going to explode for 30+ where he's hot and Darko eventually gives him some extra minutes.

I never wavered on Gradey becoming a good player eventually, but it's extremely surprising how drastically he turned his rookie season around and it seems like he's only going to keep getting better the rest of the season and the rest of his career. It's hard to see him being a bust with so much basketball smarts and awareness in addition to possessing a high-level skill in shooting.

nothing is surprising once you accept the fact that we just drafted what will be the greatest shooter in nba history.

[Spates]

At this rate Ben Taylor or J Kyle Mann will be dropping a video on Gradey in a few weeks.

[Chalky_White]

In his recent 18-point performances, Gradey is averaging just 22 MPG despite shooting a combined ~70% from the field and behind the arc in those 3 games. He should probably be playing more than 20 minutes most nights, especially on nights where he is making plays all over the court like against the Pacers, but I think he's going to explode for 30+ where he's hot and Darko eventually gives him some extra minutes.

I never wavered on Gradey becoming a good player eventually, but it's extremely surprising how drastically he turned his rookie season around and it seems like he's only going to keep getting better the rest of the season and the rest of his career. It's hard to see him being a bust with so much basketball smarts and awareness in addition to possessing a high-level skill in shooting.

More mins is risky cause we dont know if he has the strength and stamina to hold up for more than 22mins. Let him thrive in his current workload for now and then loosen the strings next year.

[metafisical]

In his recent 18-point performances, Gradey is averaging just 22 MPG despite shooting a combined ~70% from the field and behind the arc in those 3 games. He should probably be playing more than 20 minutes most nights, especially on nights where he is making plays all over the court like against the Pacers, but I think he's going to explode for 30+ where he's hot and Darko eventually gives him some extra minutes.

I never wavered on Gradey becoming a good player eventually, but it's extremely surprising how drastically he turned his rookie season around and it seems like he's only going to keep getting better the rest of the season and the rest of his career. It's hard to see him being a bust with so much basketball smarts and awareness in addition to possessing a high-level skill in shooting.

nothing is surprising once you accept the fact that we just drafted what will be the greatest shooter in nba history.

That should be our expectation of him next season when he is a sophomore. I don't want to see his 3pt% drop any lower than 99% next season. The only misses he makes should be during practice. During games, he better have stats like 10/10 every game. If you think about it, scoring an NBA 3 isn't that hard. It's 100% will power.

[TGM]

[quote="Duffman100"][quote="Reeko"]I'll be honest, I didn't think he would be there at 13 I thought he was pretty much a lock to go top 10. I was ecstatic when the Magic took Jett Howard at 11 because I figured for sure they would take Gradey given that they needed shooters. When time for our selection came I was praying for one of Dick, Hawkins or Bufkin, and when they selected Gradey I cheered from my couch because he was my favourite player in the draft.

After a few months of him struggling, I had to go back and look at some of his videos again because I didn't understand what I had missed "Was he really this bad?" I mean I've been wrong about prospects before but I felt like he was for sure an NBA player and a good shooter. How the tables have turned, already as a rookie he's making plays that stars make, and it's so clear that he understands and reads the game at a higher level than most of the vets on our team.

We are going to have a really fun end to the season and next year is going to be way better in my opinion. I've got to tip my hat to the FO, they really turned it around. The season started off with the team looking so stale but after the trades they made and the development of Gradey over the course of the season, things are looking very much on the upswing.[/quote]

Has a shooter of his pedigree ever failed at shooting at the NBA level?[/quote]

Jimmer Fredette comes to mind.

[Appostis]

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That's...nuts

[Madhouse]

Still not completely sold due to how early it is (NBA Teams will adjust) but he's definitely a lot better than I thought he'd be.

To be able to suck so bad and come back is a very huge thing. It's something that's rare especially so early in a player's career.

if I remember Klay Thompson was similar and then averaged 18 in his last 30 games of the rookie season. Must be a shooter thing.

[maternal85]

Still not completely sold due to how early it is (NBA Teams will adjust) but he's definitely a lot better than I thought he'd be.

To be able to suck so bad and come back is a very huge thing. It's something that's rare especially so early in a player's career.

He's not that important to be making game plans to stop. Not yet anyways. And if they do that, it opens up the floor even more for our top scorers. Plus he makes good basketball plays. You can't game plan to stop cutting, spot up 3's on the fast break, etc.

[Dexjackson]

Still not completely sold due to how early it is (NBA Teams will adjust) but he's definitely a lot better than I thought he'd be.

To be able to suck so bad and come back is a very huge thing. It's something that's rare especially so early in a player's career.

if I remember Klay Thompson was similar and then averaged 18 in his last 30 games of the rookie season. Must be a shooter thing.

I have been thinking of Klay as an offensive comp for him (poor man's Klay). Klay was a monster defensively and Gradey is highly unlikely to get to that level with his athleticism. I'd be happy with Grady being an average to above average defender. Especially if his offense keeps expanding and improving.

[Chalky_White]

What are some realistic comps for him now?

-Cory Kispert?
-a taller Desmond Bane?
-Keegan Murray without the defense?

[sbsat]

What are some realistic comps for him now?

-Cory Kispert?
-a taller Desmond Bane?
-Keegan Murray without the defense?

Hes actually showing signs he will be a very decent defender and rebounder

[ConSarnit]

In his recent 18-point performances, Gradey is averaging just 22 MPG despite shooting a combined ~70% from the field and behind the arc in those 3 games. He should probably be playing more than 20 minutes most nights, especially on nights where he is making plays all over the court like against the Pacers, but I think he's going to explode for 30+ where he's hot and Darko eventually gives him some extra minutes.

I never wavered on Gradey becoming a good player eventually, but it's extremely surprising how drastically he turned his rookie season around and it seems like he's only going to keep getting better the rest of the season and the rest of his career. It's hard to see him being a bust with so much basketball smarts and awareness in addition to possessing a high-level skill in shooting.

More mins is risky cause we dont know if he has the strength and stamina to hold up for more than 22mins. Let him thrive in his current workload for now and then loosen the strings next year.

I think there is real value in playing Dick 20-22 mpg. A few reasons why:

-acclimatization and adjustment to the NBA vs largely bench players

-the jump from college (35 games) to the NBA (82 games) is pretty big and it’s probably better to bring physically underdeveloped guys like Dick along slowly

-Dick was part of the AAU system which rides the wheels off of guys (some playing 100+ games per year). A couple years of lower volume/minutes (college + rookie year) might actually be beneficial long term for Dick’s health

Play Dick 20mpg, let him develop physically in the off-season, ramp him up to high 20’s next year and so on. I don’t think that playing these young guys an extra 5-7mpg has a lot of benefit if they’re just getting worn down (SAS has taken a similar approach with Wemby and it’s paid big dividends).

[And1Skip]

What are some realistic comps for him now?

-Cory Kispert?
-a taller Desmond Bane?
-Keegan Murray without the defense?

I see a better MoPete that would be more valuable in today's era.

[ConSarnit]

Still not completely sold due to how early it is (NBA Teams will adjust) but he's definitely a lot better than I thought he'd be.

To be able to suck so bad and come back is a very huge thing. It's something that's rare especially so early in a player's career.

if I remember Klay Thompson was similar and then averaged 18 in his last 30 games of the rookie season. Must be a shooter thing.

I have been thinking of Klay as an offensive comp for him (poor man's Klay). Klay was a monster defensively and Gradey is highly unlikely to get to that level with his athleticism. I'd be happy with Grady being an average to above average defender. Especially if his offense keeps expanding and improving.

I have higher hopes for his overall offense but if Dick could be Korver/Joe Harris/Reddick + average defense (not attackable in the playoffs) that would be a big win for us. That type of player is extremely valuable. I don’t know if he’ll reach the same insane shooting of those guys but I think he has higher upside as a passer/creator than any of those guys.

[OakleyDokely]

These are the guards who've take the most 3s with zero dribbles this season:

1. K Thompson
2. B Bogdanovic
3. D DiVincenzo
4. M Strus
5. T Hardaway Jr
6. E Gordon
7. S Curry
8. M Bridges
9. C White
10. M Smart
11. B Hield
12. M Beasley
13. CJ McCollum
14. OG Anunoby
15. L Kennard
16. D White
17. L Ball
18. S Bey
19. J Hawkins
20. L Dort

[Blazing_royale]

What are some realistic comps for him now?

-Cory Kispert?
-a taller Desmond Bane?
-Keegan Murray without the defense?

Kyle Korver

[God Squad]

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Okay, now that's impressive.

[brownbobcat]

These are the guards who've take the most 3s with zero dribbles this season:

1. K Thompson
2. B Bogdanovic
3. D DiVincenzo
4. M Strus
5. T Hardaway Jr
6. E Gordon
7. S Curry
8. M Bridges
9. C White
10. M Smart
11. B Hield
12. M Beasley
13. CJ McCollum
14. OG Anunoby
15. L Kennard
16. D White
17. L Ball
18. S Bey
19. J Hawkins
20. L Dort

I think this can be a bit of a misleading stat, too. A guy that gets to stand in the corner all the time is more of a product of his team's offense and not the other way around.