Trade Deadline Rumours & Discussion Thread III (Thurs Feb 9 3pm)

[Boogie!]

I'll take it a step further.
He's hot and being fed the ball right now, over time will normalize.
But his defense issues are real. That ain't no cold streak we're seeing out there.

Again I'm not sure why every player needs to be evaluated on defense. Not every player has to be some 2 way threat. Like I've already pointed out many times we literally built a team based around supposed elite defenders and our defense still sucks. People are far too obsessed with defense. It's weird that every offensive player has to be discredited by their defense. If the guy is Michael Jordan offensively but a sieve defensively someone will talk about "do not want he doesn't play defense." But it it's someone like fvv his offense can be absolutely abysmal, but someone will find a way to point out how hie defense makes up for it. Defense is not more important than offense. At some point people need to realize it's okay to have some players that are not 2 way specialists. That's why it's a team sport.

I'm pretty sure Steph Curry isn't a defensive savant...but hey lets **** on him as well.

Exactly. I don't even care about cam Thomas. I don't give a **** if they target him or not. I just find the boards obsession with defense to be much especially at the expense of **** offense. At this point in the season with the way the raptors are playing I'd welcome any change.

I'm not sure why people still don't understand that we suck defensively anyway, so idk why people are obsessed with getting only defensive players. Do people really enjoy watching us play? I'd rather just have Young players lighting it up for entertainment value.

[TheWave]

DeMar sitting out tonight with hip soreness. Where's he going?

Toronto along with Kyle. Bringing it back

jks

[HumbleRen]

This Orlando/Knicks game is nuts.

Recap please

They've going bucket for bucket.

Brunson/Fultz putting on a show.

[WuTang_CMB]

CP3 true definition of a PG

[bboyskinnylegs]

Suggs and Isaac combining for 5pts on 9 FGAs.

[HumbleRen]

Can confirm that rooting for a young team with talent >>> a directionless team who's 2 best players are about to turn 29

[Boogie!]

Also jj Redick averaged 18 points for the sixers as their starting 2. The team that almost eliminated us from the playoffs if it wasn't for the kawhi shot and legitimately was a championship contender.

Everyone knows jj Redick isn't a good defender. There's a place for every type of player as long as there's a semblance of balance and proper roster construction.

Imagine disregarding a 40% shooter from 3 just because he doesn't play defense. But this is exactly rhe problem with this t3ams philosophy and nurse as well.

[mtcan]

Again I'm not sure why every player needs to be evaluated on defense. Not every player has to be some 2 way threat. Like I've already pointed out many times we literally built a team based around supposed elite defenders and our defense still sucks. People are far too obsessed with defense. It's weird that every offensive player has to be discredited by their defense. If the guy is Michael Jordan offensively but a sieve defensively someone will talk about "do not want he doesn't play defense." But it it's someone like fvv his offense can be absolutely abysmal, but someone will find a way to point out how hie defense makes up for it. Defense is not more important than offense. At some point people need to realize it's okay to have some players that are not 2 way specialists. That's why it's a team sport.

I'm pretty sure Steph Curry isn't a defensive savant...but hey lets **** on him as well.

Exactly. I don't even care about cam Thomas. I don't give a **** if they target him or not. I just find the boards obsession with defense to be much especially at the expense of **** offense. At this point in the season with the way the raptors are playing I'd welcome any change.

I'm not sure why people still don't understand that we suck defensively anyway, so idk why people are obsessed with getting only defensive players. Do people really enjoy watching us play? I'd rather just have Young players lighting it up for entertainment value.

Amen.

People have bought into the Nick Nurse BS where he is always talking about how he's all about defence and how we bring in defence-first players and yet...we keep losing games. We are losing because our defence sucks and our defence-first players aren't stopping opponents...and yet those defence-first players are absolutely USELESS on offence.

So we suck at both.

People have drank the position less basketball and defence first propaganda.

Would anyone object to getting Steph Curry even though he's not a great defender?

[Brinbe]

only guy i'd want out of phoenix is bridges and they'd never trade him

[NoBias]

Also jj Redick averaged 18 points for the sixers as their starting 2. The team that almost eliminated us from the playoffs if it wasn't for the kawhi shot and legitimately was a championship contender.

Everyone knows jj Redick isn't a good defender. There's a place for every type of player as long as there's a semblance of balance and proper roster construction.

JJ is one of the greatest shooters/off ball players ever. Cam needs the ball in his hands to score. I see him in the mold of a Jamal Crawford/Lou Will

[Brinbe]

Suggs and Isaac combining for 5pts on 9 FGAs.

fultz is the dude to get there

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[TheRaptor!]

even Cam's fts look so smooth

I cant believe the Net's bench is more entertaining than the Raptors and are going neck to neck with a fully healthy Suns team

[HumbleRen]

Also jj Redick averaged 18 points for the sixers as their starting 2. The team that almost eliminated us from the playoffs if it wasn't for the kawhi shot and legitimately was a championship contender.

Everyone knows jj Redick isn't a good defender. There's a place for every type of player as long as there's a semblance of balance and proper roster construction.

It's the propaganda that the Raps FO/Media have leaned into.

Anyone with mediocre defence and great offence = unplayable.

Anyone with mediocre offence and good defence = untradeable

[PhilBlackson]

Suggs and Isaac combining for 5pts on 9 FGAs.

But what about all that defence!!!

Why would the Magic wanna trade their top 5 pick just a year later with all that talent?!?? lol

[TheWave]

I'm pretty sure Steph Curry isn't a defensive savant...but hey lets **** on him as well.

Exactly. I don't even care about cam Thomas. I don't give a **** if they target him or not. I just find the boards obsession with defense to be much especially at the expense of **** offense. At this point in the season with the way the raptors are playing I'd welcome any change.

I'm not sure why people still don't understand that we suck defensively anyway, so idk why people are obsessed with getting only defensive players. Do people really enjoy watching us play? I'd rather just have Young players lighting it up for entertainment value.

Amen.

People have bought into the Nick Nurse BS where he is always talking about how he's all about defence and how we bring in defence-first players and yet...we keep losing games. We are losing because our defence sucks and our defence-first players aren't stopping opponents...and yet those defence-first players are absolutely USELESS on offence.

So we suck at both.

People have drank the position less basketball and defence first propaganda.

Would anyone object to getting Steph Curry even though he's not a great defender?

Nurse has taken defense a bit too far. I agree with that.

[OakleyDokely]

This Orlando/Knicks game is nuts.

Recap please

They've going bucket for bucket.

Brunson/Fultz putting on a show.

Fultz has transformed himself into a player

[Boogie!]

Also jj Redick averaged 18 points for the sixers as their starting 2. The team that almost eliminated us from the playoffs if it wasn't for the kawhi shot and legitimately was a championship contender.

Everyone knows jj Redick isn't a good defender. There's a place for every type of player as long as there's a semblance of balance and proper roster construction.

JJ is one of the greatest shooters/off ball players ever. Cam needs the ball in his hands to score. I see him in the mold of a Jamal Crawford/Lou Will

Lmao I'm not comparing jj Redick to cam Thomas I said I don't care about him. I'm talking sbout how defense is not always the most important thing. Did you not read anything else in my post

[PhilBlackson]

Exactly. I don't even care about cam Thomas. I don't give a **** if they target him or not. I just find the boards obsession with defense to be much especially at the expense of **** offense. At this point in the season with the way the raptors are playing I'd welcome any change.

I'm not sure why people still don't understand that we suck defensively anyway, so idk why people are obsessed with getting only defensive players. Do people really enjoy watching us play? I'd rather just have Young players lighting it up for entertainment value.

Amen.

People have bought into the Nick Nurse BS where he is always talking about how he's all about defence and how we bring in defence-first players and yet...we keep losing games. We are losing because our defence sucks and our defence-first players aren't stopping opponents...and yet those defence-first players are absolutely USELESS on offence.

So we suck at both.

People have drank the position less basketball and defence first propaganda.

Would anyone object to getting Steph Curry even though he's not a great defender?

Nurse has taken defense a bit too far. I agree with that.

Build him a statue! Remember?!

[WuTang_CMB]

FVV and Fultz is nice fit if Banchero and Wagner explode

[OakleyDokely]

Also jj Redick averaged 18 points for the sixers as their starting 2. The team that almost eliminated us from the playoffs if it wasn't for the kawhi shot and legitimately was a championship contender.

Everyone knows jj Redick isn't a good defender. There's a place for every type of player as long as there's a semblance of balance and proper roster construction.

It's the propaganda that the Raps FO/Media have leaned into.

Anyone with mediocre defence and great offence = unplayable.

Anyone with mediocre offence and good defence = untradeable

I thought Redick was an underrated defender. Like Curry, he was smart and tried hard.