Hollinger: League wide speculation that POR will trade Simons + #3 for “elite forward”

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[islandboy53]

JRoy what are you doing man... you just jump around board to board arguing with other fanbases that are thinking of trades with your team? No one cares if you personally would not trade Sharpe or #3 - your FO looks like they will. Go complain to Blazers fans instead of acting like the authority on trades

Only thing I'm going to jump in on with this fun little back and forth JRoy has going with all of you is, the bolded part is inaccurate. The Blazers have said that Sharpe is off the table. This has been known locally for quite a while, and was reported nationally about a week ago (can't remember who reported it off hand). While it is likely that Portland will trade the #3 pick (and some of us non JRoy Blazers fans are looking forward to hopefully going all in with Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges), they are not trading Shaedon Sharpe.

Unless they get the right offer. The perspective that league sources were sharing several weeks ago were very early days in the offseason. Things become very fluid in this part of the season, and proposals that were flatly rejected in May become open for discussion in late June/early July. That said, I don't think a Sharpe trade is likely, but I will not be surprised if it is discussed seriously in the coming weeks.

[Bruin]

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[Tha Cynic]

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Makes sense. You don't know who Zion will impregnate next and deal with law issues, when his next injury will happen and whether he will continue to work on his weight issues. There are way too many issues.

I would cut my losses with this guy and try to get some real value for him before it all implodes.

[ItsDanger]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

[TorontoBarneys]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

[Godaddycurse]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

The only way that is true is if siakam agrees to a 2 year extend and trade under the new CBA (120% of salary), which still gives him a max contract and lets him enter FA again after 10 yrs when he is eligible for 35% of cap

[YogurtProducer]

JRoy what are you doing man... you just jump around board to board arguing with other fanbases that are thinking of trades with your team? No one cares if you personally would not trade Sharpe or #3 - your FO looks like they will. Go complain to Blazers fans instead of acting like the authority on trades

Only thing I'm going to jump in on with this fun little back and forth JRoy has going with all of you is, the bolded part is inaccurate. The Blazers have said that Sharpe is off the table. This has been known locally for quite a while, and was reported nationally about a week ago (can't remember who reported it off hand). While it is likely that Portland will trade the #3 pick (and some of us non JRoy Blazers fans are looking forward to hopefully going all in with Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges), they are not trading Shaedon Sharpe.

I am pretty sure it said Sharpe was not available in conjunction with #3, not that Sharpe is off the table completely.

Either way - that is all posturing. If the Blazers are trading #3 to go all in with Dame they are 100% not gonna make Sharpe untouchable and be weirdly stuck between two eras.

[YogurtProducer]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

If we get #3 from Portland, he was right. There was no way we were getting a top 3 pick in March.

[anotherhomer]

is this our annual trade pascal thread

first it was Golden state's offer of Kuminga, Wiseman and picks for Pascal
in hindsight, good thing we didn't take this offer

[Red_Claw]

JRoy what are you doing man... you just jump around board to board arguing with other fanbases that are thinking of trades with your team? No one cares if you personally would not trade Sharpe or #3 - your FO looks like they will. Go complain to Blazers fans instead of acting like the authority on trades

Only thing I'm going to jump in on with this fun little back and forth JRoy has going with all of you is, the bolded part is inaccurate. The Blazers have said that Sharpe is off the table. This has been known locally for quite a while, and was reported nationally about a week ago (can't remember who reported it off hand). While it is likely that Portland will trade the #3 pick (and some of us non JRoy Blazers fans are looking forward to hopefully going all in with Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges), they are not trading Shaedon Sharpe.

I am pretty sure it said Sharpe was not available in conjunction with #3, not that Sharpe is off the table completely.

Either way - that is all posturing. If the Blazers are trading #3 to go all in with Dame they are 100% not gonna make Sharpe untouchable and be weirdly stuck between two eras.

I think Portland will need to decide between Sharpe and the #3 pick to improve their roster. Im bias but i think Sharpe shows a ton of potential but still needs some developing years. If Portland can land Scoot, i think he's ready to help now plus, once Portland's 3 year plan of competing is over, they move on from Lillard and rebuild with Scoot.

[YogurtProducer]

is this our annual trade pascal thread

first it was Golden state's offer of Kuminga, Wiseman and picks for Pascal
in hindsight, good thing we didn't take this offer

Pretty sure the offer reported package was Wiggins / 7 / 11 and Wiseman. (those picks became Kuminga and Wiseman).

[grimlock]

Waiting on the mastermind Masai to deliver us a Bargnani Miracle.

I miss peak Masai (2:50 mark for the good stuff)

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[aroc23]

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JRoy what are you doing man... you just jump around board to board arguing with other fanbases that are thinking of trades with your team? No one cares if you personally would not trade Sharpe or #3 - your FO looks like they will. Go complain to Blazers fans instead of acting like the authority on trades

Only thing I'm going to jump in on with this fun little back and forth JRoy has going with all of you is, the bolded part is inaccurate. The Blazers have said that Sharpe is off the table. This has been known locally for quite a while, and was reported nationally about a week ago (can't remember who reported it off hand). While it is likely that Portland will trade the #3 pick (and some of us non JRoy Blazers fans are looking forward to hopefully going all in with Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges), they are not trading Shaedon Sharpe.

I am pretty sure it said Sharpe was not available in conjunction with #3, not that Sharpe is off the table completely.

Either way - that is all posturing. If the Blazers are trading #3 to go all in with Dame they are 100% not gonna make Sharpe untouchable and be weirdly stuck between two eras.

You are exactly right. It is crazy how people do not exercise their reading comprehension some times en masse. We are all guilty of this once in a while, but it seems like 90% of people who read the quote did not comprehend the very careful wording:

"Trail Blazers officials have left inquiring teams with the impression that Shaedon Sharpe, the No. 7 pick in last year's draft, is off limits in any dialogue regarding the No. 3 pick."

They did not say Sharpe was off limits period. They said in discussions regarding the 3rd pick. To be fair this could mean he is off limits period, or it could mean they realize they need multiple pieces to contend and cannot package the 3rd pick and Sharpe together because there are no players realistically available worth both so they will explore separate deals. I think the latter makes more sense otherwise why bother adding the last part of that sentence.

I am also a huge Sharpe fan by the way and would love to pair him with Scottie, but I think the fans likely value him higher than the FO. When he was playing next to Dame and they were trying to win he looked like a raw rookie with some flashes. The Blazers FO must know how rare it is to contend with a 20 year old as your 3rd or 4th best player when that player did not even make an All-Rookie team.

[YogurtProducer]

Spoiler:

Only thing I'm going to jump in on with this fun little back and forth JRoy has going with all of you is, the bolded part is inaccurate. The Blazers have said that Sharpe is off the table. This has been known locally for quite a while, and was reported nationally about a week ago (can't remember who reported it off hand). While it is likely that Portland will trade the #3 pick (and some of us non JRoy Blazers fans are looking forward to hopefully going all in with Jaylen Brown or Mikal Bridges), they are not trading Shaedon Sharpe.

I am pretty sure it said Sharpe was not available in conjunction with #3, not that Sharpe is off the table completely.

Either way - that is all posturing. If the Blazers are trading #3 to go all in with Dame they are 100% not gonna make Sharpe untouchable and be weirdly stuck between two eras.

You are exactly right. It is crazy how people do not exercise their reading comprehension some times en masse. We are all guilty of this once in a while, but it seems like 90% of people who read the quote did not comprehend the very careful wording:

"Trail Blazers officials have left inquiring teams with the impression that Shaedon Sharpe, the No. 7 pick in last year's draft, is off limits in any dialogue regarding the No. 3 pick."

They did not say Sharpe was off limits period. They said in discussions regarding the 3rd pick. To be fair this could mean he is off limits period, or it could mean they realize they need multiple pieces to contend and cannot package the 3rd pick and Sharpe together because there are no players realistically available worth both so they will explore separate deals. I think the latter makes more sense otherwise why bother adding the last part of that sentence.

Yeah to me I always assumed they want to go for a player with #3, and another player with Sharpe.

[KINGTHANOS]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

If we get #3 from Portland, he was right. There was no way we were getting a top 3 pick in March.

And to add to that, if we do that trade at the deadline, we improve Portland and they likely get out of the lottery or have a back of lottery pick instead of #3.

[Tacoma]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

If we get #3 from Portland, he was right. There was no way we were getting a top 3 pick in March.

The talk was about trading FVV and GTJ at the deadline since their contracts expire and we'd get more at the deadline than a S&T over the summer. OG was also mentioned because of rumors he wanted out. Siakam's name rarely came up. Getting Poeltl and trading Siakam at the same time at the deadline would not have made sense.

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Zion is a Top 10 player when healthy, but that "when" is so strong, I feel like Pascal ends up having more value.

[Zeno]

Masai might get outbid in the market. But he could always get the same deal in the offseason, or so he said . . . .

One of the biggest lines we read around the trade deadline was that it made more sense to trade Pascal in the offseason because his value would be higher. Curiously, I haven't seen that repeated even once now that we are actually in the offseason.

If we get #3 from Portland, he was right. There was no way we were getting a top 3 pick in March.

Exactly, no one in this lottery was trading their Wemby odds. So basically zero lottery picks were available until after that lotto was decided.