Official NBA General Discussion 2024-25 V2.0

[SFour]

If only Siakam showed up in the bubble playoffs....would've had another ECF appearance and likely a finals matchup against Lakers. Take me to the timeline where covid never happened.

[douggood]

As I was saying before, the Pacers doing this well is going to have Masai feeling confident in the move he made for Ingram and what he's been building here in general. The strength in numbers approach without a real true #1 option has worked out really well for the Pacers.

that being said we still face the problem from the fvv/og/siakam era. all our core players are playing 1 tier too high. we need a true #1 to drop everyone to the correct tiers.

[TakeYourHeart]

Siakam even over 30 now has those fresh legs not needing to play extremely heavy minutes or carry an entire offense and you see him sprinting down the floor for easy buckets again like he did earlier in his career. Even his defense looks like it's back to a better level now.

He looks better conditioned than OG. OG looks gassed by the end of games.

[SnotoriousBIG]

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[mdenny]

As I was saying before, the Pacers doing this well is going to have Masai feeling confident in the move he made for Ingram and what he's been building here in general. The strength in numbers approach without a real true #1 option has worked out really well for the Pacers.

that being said we still face the problem from the fvv/og/siakam era. all our core players are playing 1 tier too high. we need a true #1 to drop everyone to the correct tiers.

Seems like Ingram trade was an attempt to do just that no?

[sidsid]

Siakam even over 30 now has those fresh legs not needing to play extremely heavy minutes or carry an entire offense and you see him sprinting down the floor for easy buckets again like he did earlier in his career. Even his defense looks like it's back to a better level now.

He looks better conditioned than OG. OG looks gassed by the end of games.

The Thibs/Nurse awful minutes coaching effect. The anti-Pops. Too incompetent to figure out a functional offense and proper rotations in the regular season so they just overplay their talent.

They're doing better than last year at this point, where they were dropping like flies one by one. Now half the roster is just noticeably limping all game. Progress!

[djsunyc]

God damn..I wish we could of made OG/Barnes/Pascal work in TO.

if dame said ok to toronto, it mightve but i would like to know what happened around that porzingis deal.

[Los_29]

Pacers are legitimately an excellent basketball team. They are very dangerous and have tons of guys that can contribute.

If you look at all the best players left, only Ant and Chet were top 10 picks.
- Haliburton, Bridges, Pascal, SGA, OG, Jdubs, Turner, Brunson, Gobert. Then you have lots of great supporting pieces like Nesmith, Nembhard, Caruso etc.

Gone are the days where you can have a couple of superstars and expect to win on that alone. You need a complete team with contributions from a lot of players to win.

Knicks are in a big hole here. It’s very tough to beat Indiana on their home court.

[djsunyc]

As I was saying before, the Pacers doing this well is going to have Masai feeling confident in the move he made for Ingram and what he's been building here in general. The strength in numbers approach without a real true #1 option has worked out really well for the Pacers.

that being said we still face the problem from the fvv/og/siakam era. all our core players are playing 1 tier too high. we need a true #1 to drop everyone to the correct tiers.

imho, you try to build your team with as many 2 way guys you can, hope they have chemistry and then see if you can become or land a lead scorer. ingram automatically knocks everyone else down 1 slot.

[djsunyc]

Pacers are legitimately an excellent basketball team. They are very dangerous and have tons of guys that can contribute.

If you look at all the best players left, only Ant and Chet were top 10 picks.
- Haliburton, Bridges, Pascal, SGA, OG, Jdubs, Turner, Brunson, Gobert. Then you have lots of great supporting pieces like Nesmith, Nembhard, Caruso etc.

Gone are the days where you can have a couple of superstars and expect to win on that alone. You need a complete team with contributions from a lot of players to win.

Knicks are in a big hole here. It’s very tough to beat Indiana on their home court.

there is no more gm blueprint. you can build a team so many different ways.

[djsunyc]

i know knicks fans hate thibs but imho, thibs is maximizing the knicks output.

[mihaic]

Is it me or is the TNT commentator super annoying (biased for Knicks too).

I think I recognize Stan VG voice, he is actually quite good.

[Boardbreaker]

Is it me or is the TNT commentator super annoying (biased for Knicks too).

I think I recognize Stan VG voice, he is actually quite good.

Harlan? He’s probably the best around currently. Reggie’s there too but I don’t think he’d be biased for the Knicks.

[bballsparkin]

Normally I would agree with you, but he actually lives in the GTA in the offseason, which is extremely rare and a first. Mind you, the offseason is when the weather is not so terrible but still. Wife is local too. That is why some of us think there is a chance; albeit slim.

Don't you live mostly in Florida. I mean it's almost June and I don't even want to get out of bed. I don't know if I need to bring a scarf with me when I go outside. The birds I feed on my balcony are eating it all up because it's so cold there are hardly no insects. **** I'm thinking maybe it's time I take a big pay loss and move back West. The offseason is enough!

[mdenny]

Pacers are legitimately an excellent basketball team. They are very dangerous and have tons of guys that can contribute.

If you look at all the best players left, only Ant and Chet were top 10 picks.
- Haliburton, Bridges, Pascal, SGA, OG, Jdubs, Turner, Brunson, Gobert. Then you have lots of great supporting pieces like Nesmith, Nembhard, Caruso etc.

Gone are the days where you can have a couple of superstars and expect to win on that alone. You need a complete team with contributions from a lot of players to win.

Knicks are in a big hole here. It’s very tough to beat Indiana on their home court.

That's actually amazing. I wonder if there is a general trend wherein draft prognosis' are actually getting worse?

I know that draft selection and expected outcome used to be much more correlated in 80s and early 90s. But I'm guessing that is mostly due to the fact that almost every top 10 pick is a one and down college players nowadays.

It will be interesting if the financial incentives developing for college athletes have a huge impact on this correlation going forward. If Cooper flagg can make millions of dollars in merchandise and endorsements than he might stay in college for 3 years.

And if all the top prospects start remaining in college for 3 years.....then it suggests the draft will trend back into the direction where the top 10 picks bear more resemblance to redrafts 5 to 10 years later. Like it was back in the 80s/early 90s.

That would mean top 10 picks greatly increase in value because they are less of a crapshoot.

[bballsparkin]

He's definitely not giving up 100 million to play in Toronto. He will sign the supermax for sure. Our chance is for him to request a trade after the cap catches up with them and they lose all their depth.

Can't remember how much kawhi gave up in not signing with us. Was it like 20 or 30 million?

And we are entering new terrain with these crazy huge contracts. I've noticed while watching SGA these playoffs although he's strong he's slim. Westbrook whacked his hand good and Shai felt that. What are consecutive playoff runs going to do to his health? That's partly what makes guys like LBJ so impressive. The ongoing success. I don't see OKC parting ways with him either.

[sidsid]

God damn..I wish we could of made OG/Barnes/Pascal work in TO.

if dame said ok to toronto, it mightve but i would like to know what happened around that porzingis deal.

Porzingis is the one that would have made this "what if" a lot of fun. But he was constantly injured so I keep thinking it just doesn't change much of the dynamics.

I'd do it now for RJ if we could swing it. Again, just to see what it would look like.

[Son Goku 25]

"Masai over rates his players"

Wonder how Masai feels right now.. hopefully proud.

[Son Goku 25]

God damn..I wish we could of made OG/Barnes/Pascal work in TO.

if dame said ok to toronto, it mightve but i would like to know what happened around that porzingis deal.

Refresh my memory, I remember Porzingis liked Toronto but what was the deal?

[Pointgod]

Knicks are absolutely cooked. But honestly not a bad result for a team playing together in their first year. They can use the offseason to add some more depth.