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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1921 » by wayoftheroad » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:29 pm

Man I wish we could get Jaylen Brown
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Post#1922 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:32 pm

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TimeForChange wrote:Now that Kroenke has brought up trading Jokic,,,

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Time for Darko to finally earn his contract

Teams are looking at OKC and realizing you gotta think ahead and be proactive. Why try to force something that isn't gonna end well when you can load up on picks and slowly build up.


Because that only works when a few teams are doing it at most. If half the league tanks and "builds slow", the whole thing falls apart.

Also, it's not only insane, but also moronic, to suggest willingly trading a top 15 NBA player of all time in his prime to tank is a good strategy.
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Post#1923 » by TakeYourHeart » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:34 pm

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Post#1924 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:35 pm

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TimeForChange wrote:Now that Kroenke has brought up trading Jokic,,,

Read on Twitter


Time for Darko to finally earn his contract

Teams are looking at OKC and realizing you gotta think ahead and be proactive. Why try to force something that isn't gonna end well when you can load up on picks and slowly build up.


Because that only works when a few teams are doing it at most. If half the league tanks and "builds slow", the whole thing falls apart.

Also, it's not only insane, but also moronic, to suggest willingly trading a top 15 NBA player of all time in his prime to tank is a good strategy.

Of course that's why your try to do that as soon as possible. They literally are capped out and have no draft capital and can't really depend on internal development. It's not the perfect plan but if you can get like 8 first or more then you might have to take a look.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1925 » by bobbyp3588 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:37 pm

wayoftheroad wrote:Man I wish we could get Jaylen Brown


Let’s do it!

We’ll be missing a PG or a C afterwards though as to match salary we’re looking at IQ, RJ plus picks or RJ, Yak, min salary guy plus picks.

That said, I like the look of both options as long as we can adequately shore up the lost position.


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Post#1926 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:47 pm

We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1927 » by Zeno » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:51 pm

Not saying I want this….

Boston gets
RJ
Yak
#9
Spurs 2027 1st (via Kings)

Kings get:
IQ

Raps get:

Brown
Monk
Val
#28 from Boston
When will we just change the name of 25 of the 30 teams to the Washington Generals?

Please advise….

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Post#1928 » by ForeverTFC » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:52 pm

RaptorPride wrote:We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.


I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.
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Post#1929 » by RaptorPride » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:56 pm

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RaptorPride wrote:We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.


I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.

I don't think so, me personally I don't think he has the name appeal for front offices to give multiple first for him. We also are giving them a young wing on a decent contract which is expiring soon. Other teams would offer dead weight contracts not someone young like RJ with some promise.
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Post#1930 » by Syd-TK3 » Tue Jun 24, 2025 11:57 pm

Im not expecting anything but I feel like this is clearly the perfect time for the raps to finally do a draft day trade
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1931 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:01 am

Syd-TK3 wrote:Im not expecting anything but I feel like this is clearly the perfect time for the raps to finally do a draft day trade


Get another pick! We always want it and it never happens lol
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1932 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:05 am

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RJ+9 for Derrick White+28


Now, this would be an actual upgrade for RJ that I can get on board with. White is the perfect fit in this starting lineup. Obviously would prefer him to be younger but he should have another 2-3 years at least in his prime.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1933 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:06 am

RaptorPride wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.


I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.

I don't think so, me personally I don't think he has the name appeal for front offices to give multiple first for him. We also are giving them a young wing on a decent contract which is expiring soon. Other teams would offer dead weight contracts not someone young like RJ with some promise.


I'm pretty sure every front office knows how good Derrick White is, I mean he made Team USA too lol. He's not under the radar.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1934 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:07 am

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RaptorPride wrote:We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.


I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.


No chance Boston does this without the #9 pick being involved.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1935 » by Duffman100 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:07 am

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TakeYourHeart wrote:
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RJ+9 for Derrick White+28


Now, this would be an actual upgrade for RJ that I can get on board with. White is the perfect fit in this starting lineup. Obviously would prefer him to be younger but he should have another 2-3 years at least in his prime.


I love White but feels very Colangelo esque.
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Post#1936 » by TakeYourHeart » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:08 am

wayoftheroad wrote:Man I wish we could get Jaylen Brown


I would love to what Jaylen Brown looks like on another team, especially one where he's the best player...just not anywhere near the Raptors. In my opinion, he has benefited from playing on a stacked team and would get exposed as overrated surrounded with less talent.

32.4% from 3
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Still can't dribble with his left hand
Owed $57 million

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Post#1937 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:12 am

White checks a lot of boxes on what we are missing in the starting lineup at the 2. All-NBA level POA defender, efficient high volume 3 point shooter, high IQ, doesn't need the ball in his hands to be effective. Only thing he doesn't do is generate rim pressure. The advanced metrics are off the charts good though, he's a Lowry type impact guy.

He's had a positive on court per 100 and on/off per 100 every single year in his career (+7.6 in on court per 100, +4.9 in on/off per 100). He impacts winning at a very high level, his teams are consistently winning the minutes he's on the floor and better with him on it than off.
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Post#1938 » by RaptorPride » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:12 am

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I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.

I don't think so, me personally I don't think he has the name appeal for front offices to give multiple first for him. We also are giving them a young wing on a decent contract which is expiring soon. Other teams would offer dead weight contracts not someone young like RJ with some promise.


I'm pretty sure every front office knows how good Derrick White is, I mean he made Team USA too lol. He's not under the radar.

Yea of course but he is more of an elite role player and not a star. We are lucky we got young players on deals that we can trade for him. Most contenders are already locked in with their main guys. I don't see teams giving up crazy offers for him unless he's their final piece. Not many rosters have a young guy like RJ on a similar contract to White they are willing to move. Boston wont want another 30 year old coming back. But of course I could be wrong. RJ is still young enough for them to take a chance on and if he fails he will be an expiring very soon.
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Re: Stein/Fischer: Toronto willing to deal RJ Barrett, IQ, Poeltl for Significant Upgrades // #9 Available 

Post#1939 » by tecumseh18 » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:12 am

PushDaRock wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:
RaptorPride wrote:We probably could get white for RJ and a second or two. That's probably best trade for us with out giving up to much of our future picks and young assets.


I’d do that in a heartbeat. But have to think someone will pay a lot more for him.


No chance Boston does this without the #9 pick being involved.


White is a finishing piece for a contending team. Not a piece we give up #9 for.
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Post#1940 » by PushDaRock » Wed Jun 25, 2025 12:13 am

Duffman100 wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
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RJ+9 for Derrick White+28


Now, this would be an actual upgrade for RJ that I can get on board with. White is the perfect fit in this starting lineup. Obviously would prefer him to be younger but he should have another 2-3 years at least in his prime.


I love White but feels very Colangelo esque.


White is right around Lowry level in impact IMO

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