[Shams] Masai Ujiri is out as Vice Chairman and President of the Toronto Raptors

[OakleyDokely]

First user I've ever put ignore.

I love trolling, but you gotta be funny.

[SFour]

Unless they're hiring Sam Presti or Brad Stevens, it doesn't make any sense to bring in an outsider at this point. Just give Webster and Tolzman the shot they worked for the past 12 years and evaluate the team in 3 years. If it's not going anywhere, hire someone new and clean house.

Promoting Webster to President would just confirm that letting go of Masai was because of him being too expensive......you can't say it's a results based decision otherwise Webster should've also been fired, not extended and then promoted.

[ItsDanger]

You guys got to stop whining about nepotism constantly. That's just a fact of life. You would do the same for your kids. Otherwise, just makes you look bitter and angry.

[Randle McMurphy]

First user I've ever put ignore.

I love trolling, but you gotta be funny.

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[Randle McMurphy]

You guys got to stop whining about nepotism constantly. That's just a fact of life. You would do the same for your kids. Otherwise, just makes you look bitter and angry.

Aren't most billionaires in the world nepo babies anyway?

Not sure how it makes Ed any better or worse of an owner if he got his money through his father's business as it is.

[OakleyDokely]

You guys got to stop whining about nepotism constantly. That's just a fact of life. You would do the same for your kids. Otherwise, just makes you look bitter and angry.

Whining about whining.

[ItsDanger]

You guys got to stop whining about nepotism constantly. That's just a fact of life. You would do the same for your kids. Otherwise, just makes you look bitter and angry.

Whining about whining.

Bitter and angry is the comment.

[OakleyDokely]

You guys got to stop whining about nepotism constantly. That's just a fact of life. You would do the same for your kids. Otherwise, just makes you look bitter and angry.

Whining about whining.

Bitter and angry is the comment.

Dude have some self reflection

You haven't made a positive post here in your entire time here

[ItsDanger]

Whining about whining.

Bitter and angry is the comment.

Dude have some self reflection

You haven't made a positive post here in your entire time here

Yes I have. Your reply just solidifies my original comment and you're avoiding it like usual.

[OakleyDokely]

Bitter and angry is the comment.

Dude have some self reflection

You haven't made a positive post here in your entire time here

Yes I have. Your reply just solidifies my original comment and you're avoiding it like usual.

Bitter and angry is actually a good user name for you.

You didn't quote me by the way. Why am I obligated to respond to your worthless post?

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

It’s been tough few days for all - let’s all try to remember how much a gift to oneself gratefulness is, find your reason and it’s okay to let some one be wrong on the internet for your own peace of mind, brothers and sisters, we’re in this together.

[ItsDanger]

Dude have some self reflection

You haven't made a positive post here in your entire time here

Yes I have. Your reply just solidifies my original comment and you're avoiding it like usual.

Bitter and angry is actually a good user name for you.

You didn't quote me by the way. Why am I obligated to respond to your worthless post?

You're not obligated to reply ever. In fact, that's my preference.

[OakleyDokely]

Yes I have. Your reply just solidifies my original comment and you're avoiding it like usual.

Bitter and angry is actually a good user name for you.

You didn't quote me by the way. Why am I obligated to respond to your worthless post?

You're not obligated to reply ever. In fact, that's my preference.

Perfect. We are on the same page.

[MavCarter]

Unless they're hiring Sam Presti or Brad Stevens, it doesn't make any sense to bring in an outsider at this point. Just give Webster and Tolzman the shot they worked for the past 12 years and evaluate the team in 3 years. If it's not going anywhere, hire someone new and clean house.

Promoting Webster to President would just confirm that letting go of Masai was because of him being too expensive......you can't say it's a results based decision otherwise Webster should've also been fired, not extended and then promoted.

I mean cant we already confirm it? They gave the whole FO except masai extensions recently

[OakleyDokely]

Unless they're hiring Sam Presti or Brad Stevens, it doesn't make any sense to bring in an outsider at this point. Just give Webster and Tolzman the shot they worked for the past 12 years and evaluate the team in 3 years. If it's not going anywhere, hire someone new and clean house.

Promoting Webster to President would just confirm that letting go of Masai was because of him being too expensive......you can't say it's a results based decision otherwise Webster should've also been fired, not extended and then promoted.

I mean cant we already confirm it? They gave the whole FO except masai extensions recently

None of this makes much sense.

They like the direction of the team, they like the people in place and they believed Masai was valuable enough to be involved in the draft. Masai was responsible for all of this being the President.

They just didn't want to pay him and/or Ed has a personal vendetta against him.

[disoblige]

Unless they're hiring Sam Presti or Brad Stevens, it doesn't make any sense to bring in an outsider at this point. Just give Webster and Tolzman the shot they worked for the past 12 years and evaluate the team in 3 years. If it's not going anywhere, hire someone new and clean house.

Promoting Webster to President would just confirm that letting go of Masai was because of him being too expensive......you can't say it's a results based decision otherwise Webster should've also been fired, not extended and then promoted.

I mean cant we already confirm it? They gave the whole FO except masai extensions recently

They didn't want to sign him an extension for +15mill.

[OakleyDokely]

Promoting Webster to President would just confirm that letting go of Masai was because of him being too expensive......you can't say it's a results based decision otherwise Webster should've also been fired, not extended and then promoted.

I mean cant we already confirm it? They gave the whole FO except masai extensions recently

They didn't want to sign him an extension for +15mill.

15 mill is a rounding error for Rogers. That's about the cost of a mle contract. If Masai was a yesman like Shapiro, I think the outcome would've been different. Ownership has displayed on the Jays side that they are very willing to give a lot of time to key leadership despite inconsistent results.

[HumbleRen]

Money wasn’t the main issue. Rogers just never liked him.

We were 2 years removed from a championship and there was already heavy lobbying by Ed Rogers to not offer him a new contract in 2021.

He disliked Masai being bigger than MLSE when it came to the Raptors. He disliked Masai’s off the court political ties. As soon as Ed Rogers got his power of majority ownership last month, Masai immediately knew his days was numbered. Hence him asking if he could stay for the draft cycle at the start of the month.

Both things can be true, Masai did a horrible job over the last 3 years but at the same time Ed Rogers was never going to extend him after this current contract ran out. Whether he did an amazing job or not.

[ForeverTFC]

Yes I have. Your reply just solidifies my original comment and you're avoiding it like usual.

Bitter and angry is actually a good user name for you.

You didn't quote me by the way. Why am I obligated to respond to your worthless post?

You're not obligated to reply ever. In fact, that's my preference.

Our collective preference is for you and Randle to leave the forum. Read the room with that big brain of yours.

Can I suggest a trip to Halifax? Guy named James there that you'd all love.

[theonlyeastcoastrapsfan]

Jeepees have a snickers and chill bill