And Then There Was One: Thank Nation 2. Raps pick 23rd

[ash_k]

Well maybe Skal has some developing to do and he has looked better than a 28th pick. Siakam has developed well even tho Skal has the higher celling they're about even right now. Actually Siakam has done better so far but I'd chalk that up to Skal being stuck on the Kings.

Looking back to the Poetl pick it made sense because we didn't have a backup C available. So Masai used the #9 pick to draft for need over ceiling. I don't mind that Poetl was a good pick looks very promising as a high level role player eventually. I maintain Poetl as a good pick.

So I guess you can argue that we should have taken Skal over Siakam but then at point we'd have too many young Centers on a playoff team . Also there's a reason so many teams passed on Skal the bust potential is very strong. It's too early to judge that right now. But we'll see.

Basically what I'm saying is that Masai hasn't done anything yet to lose my trust in his drafting. There some other things I don't like about Masai such as keeping Casey or signing an injured Caroll. But as of now I'm fine with the drafting.

No Poetl was hands down BPA. Pay attention.

Poetl was seen as the guy with the higher floor but lower celing. Which is what I meant by BPA.

That BPA stuff doesnt really mean anything...is your GM a good talent evaluator or not? or does he follow Chad Ford and DraftX?

That BPA stuff got a GM to draft Kelly Olynyk (and Anthony Bennett) over Giannis.

[HeadtopChunes]

No Poetl was hands down BPA. Pay attention.

Poetl was seen as the guy with the higher floor but lower celing. Which is what I meant by BPA.

That BPA stuff doesnt really mean anything...is your GM a good talent evaluator or not? or does he follow Chad Ford and DraftX?

That BPA stuff got a GM to draft Kelly Olynyk (and Anthony Bennett) over Giannis.

Good point i guess its just debating semantics.

[OAKLEY_2]

Poetl was seen as the guy with the higher floor but lower celing. Which is what I meant by BPA.

That BPA stuff doesnt really mean anything...is your GM a good talent evaluator or not? or does he follow Chad Ford and DraftX?

That BPA stuff got a GM to draft Kelly Olynyk (and Anthony Bennett) over Giannis.

Good point i guess its just debating semantics.

Well since Chad Ford proved year after year he was complicit hyping questionable prospects I hope no GM and staff worth their salt follows him. Last year's draft proved our scouting diverged significantly from Chad Ford's up to the witching hour mock 10.0 drafts. BPA really means choosing not to draft players based on positional needs. It "is" what it doesn't mean.

[Syd-TK3]

Realistically speaking if JVs time here is done how high a pick could we even get for him?
Which team would be high enough on him

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[HeadtopChunes]

Realistically speaking if JVs time here is done how high a pick could we even get for him?
Which team would be high enough on him

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Not super high I think playoffs aren't helping his value right now. Maybe we can get late lottery if we're lucky but 15-19 seems right to me

[OAKLEY_2]

Realistically speaking if JVs time here is done how high a pick could we even get for him?
Which team would be high enough on him

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Not super high I think playoffs aren't helping his value right now. Maybe we can get late lottery if we're lucky but 15-19 seems right to me

Which is why he will be sold for cap space. BC will grab him with such a massive question mark in Embid. We are going to end up with Stauskas and a couple second rounders this draft. Book it.

[BoyzNTheHood]

Realistically speaking if JVs time here is done how high a pick could we even get for him?
Which team would be high enough on him

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Not super high I think playoffs aren't helping his value right now. Maybe we can get late lottery if we're lucky but 15-19 seems right to me

Which is why he will be sold for cap space. BC will grab him with such a massive question mark in Embid. We are going to end up with Stauskas and a couple second rounders this draft. Book it.

I can see BC doing something like that. If JV loses weight his value increases tremendously. The idiotic staff who made him add weight when he was younger should all be fired.

[Dalek]

I think he focuses too much on defense when the league is about pace and space offense. The next pick has to add better versatility. I'd love Draymond Green type of pick. A do it all SF/PF who is a leader.

Too bad Miles Bridges is going back to Michigan State.

Damn, also Villanova's Mikal Bridges going back to school.

Even in limited minutes a SF that shoots 70% FG, 40% 3pt and 90%FT while gets 4.5 rebs, 2 ast, 1.7stls and 0.9 blks would get a 1st round promise in the early 20's for sure.

That's a shame about Mikal Bridges, but there are other interesting guys:

Justin Jackson (the Canadian one from Maryland Terps) The kid looks like a beast physically (proported 7-3 wingspan) and is a good shooter (+40%).
Sindarius Thornwell (top two way player in College)
Jordan Bell (more of a PF but interesting player)
Terrance Ferguson (US player in Austrailia reminds me of Terrence Ross)

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

Canadian Justin Jackson kind of reminds me of Wilson Chandler.

[JYD]

Which is why he will be sold for cap space. BC will grab him with such a massive question mark in Embid. We are going to end up with Stauskas and a couple second rounders this draft. Book it.

Um no. He got a lottery pick for Bargs, he's not gonna firesale JV. I would agree in this draft he might be worth a late lotto. If we can package something like 2 picks and Joseph for a guy we really like in the draft, could be worth it.

[CoachJReturns]

Which is why he will be sold for cap space. BC will grab him with such a massive question mark in Embid. We are going to end up with Stauskas and a couple second rounders this draft. Book it.

Um no. He got a lottery pick for Bargs, he's not gonna firesale JV. I would agree in this draft he might be worth a late lotto. If we can package something like 2 picks and Joseph for a guy we really like in the draft, could be worth it.

Yeah, Masai doesn't throw guys away. His entire tenure here has been one of winning his trades. He tried to trade JV for Drummond, so at a minimum we should expect he'll look for a piece that has some value. In this draft JV is probably worth a pick in the teens. Where exactly, I have no idea.

[PhilBlackson]

Hopefully after CLE had another good laugh at us Masai stops using PER to draft and start taking a chance on upside and not let the RAWEST player of all time (Bruno) be his barometer.

I would look at Kyle Kuzma, Jonah Bolden if OG Anunoby isn't available and Mikal Bridges doesn't declare.

Semi, Blossomgame etc just scream role player at best.

[T_RAPS_FOR_LIFE]

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[Throwback24]

What SF's are there we can draft?

[HeadtopChunes]

What SF's are there we can draft?

OG Anunonoby
Semi Ojeleye (might be more PF than SF)
Justin Jackson
Terrence Ferguson
Wesley Iwundu
Devin Robinson
Jonah Bolden (probably more of a PF)
Rodions Kurucs (more of a stash guy wouldn't play immediately)
Tylor Lyndon
Jaron Blossomgame
Dwayne Bacon.

I think that's everyone. Not a particularly impressive group Anunoby is the only one that gets me excited and he may go way before we pick. Bolden could be interesting but he's more of a PF than anything.

[Mr.Raptorsingh]

What SF's are there we can draft?

Bruh Anunoby is the one to target imo. He's a toolsy prospect. Long arms, 6'8'', NBA-ready physically, just needs some fine tuning and experience. I'm not saying he's as raw as Bruno for instance, but as with any prospect, there's some things he can work on and be more consistent in, like his jumpshot, consistency, etc.

[CoachJReturns]

What SF's are there we can draft?

OG Anunonoby
Semi Ojeleye (might be more PF than SF)
Justin Jackson
Terrence Ferguson
Wesley Iwundu
Devin Robinson
Jonah Bolden (probably more of a PF)
Rodions Kurucs (more of a stash guy wouldn't play immediately)
Tylor Lyndon
Jaron Blossomgame
Dwayne Bacon.

I think that's everyone. Not a particularly impressive group Anunoby is the only one that gets me excited and he may go way before we pick. Bolden could be interesting but he's more of a PF than anything.

Anunoby is probably the best fit of the bunch, but he'll be gone before our pick in all likelihood, unless injuries totally scare off teams from picking him. I guess that's possible. He's good, but hasn't done anything to suggest he'll be head and shoulders above the other guys, so some may prefer a safer pick. I wouldn't mind Ferguson or Robinson either. I suppose an argument could be made for Kurucs as well for draft and stash reasons and he's more of a skilled player than most of these guys though less of an athlete.

[HeadtopChunes]

What SF's are there we can draft?

OG Anunonoby
Semi Ojeleye (might be more PF than SF)
Justin Jackson
Terrence Ferguson
Wesley Iwundu
Devin Robinson
Jonah Bolden (probably more of a PF)
Rodions Kurucs (more of a stash guy wouldn't play immediately)
Tylor Lyndon
Jaron Blossomgame
Dwayne Bacon.

I think that's everyone. Not a particularly impressive group Anunoby is the only one that gets me excited and he may go way before we pick. Bolden could be interesting but he's more of a PF than anything.

Anunoby is probably the best fit of the bunch, but he'll be gone before our pick in all likelihood, unless injuries totally scare off teams from picking him. I guess that's possible. He's good, but hasn't done anything to suggest he'll be head and shoulders above the other guys, so some may prefer a safer pick. I wouldn't mind Ferguson or Robinson either. I suppose an argument could be made for Kurucs as well for draft and stash reasons and he's more of a skilled player than most of these guys though less of an athlete.

Yeah Anunoby is drafting based on potential more than anything. Whats the deal with Robinson? I dont know much about him

[Syd-TK3]

My ideal draft is having one of OG or Terrence Ferguson fall to our pick

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[BoyzNTheHood]

What SF's are there we can draft?

OG Anunonoby
Semi Ojeleye (might be more PF than SF)
Justin Jackson
Terrence Ferguson
Wesley Iwundu
Devin Robinson
Jonah Bolden (probably more of a PF)
Rodions Kurucs (more of a stash guy wouldn't play immediately)
Tylor Lyndon
Jaron Blossomgame
Dwayne Bacon.

I think that's everyone. Not a particularly impressive group Anunoby is the only one that gets me excited and he may go way before we pick. Bolden could be interesting but he's more of a PF than anything.

Anunoby is probably the best fit of the bunch, but he'll be gone before our pick in all likelihood, unless injuries totally scare off teams from picking him. I guess that's possible. He's good, but hasn't done anything to suggest he'll be head and shoulders above the other guys, so some may prefer a safer pick. I wouldn't mind Ferguson or Robinson either. I suppose an argument could be made for Kurucs as well for draft and stash reasons and he's more of a skilled player than most of these guys though less of an athlete.

To me it's OG or Justin Jackson (Maryland). OG for obvious reasons outside of the knee issues. And then Jackson because he's not only Canadian, but he's just as toolsy as OG.

If Justin is able to develop properly he can be scary. I keep going back to Kawhi with him. Not saying he'll be as good, but eerily similar in terms of tools/personality. No one expected Kawhi to be as good as he is (not even the Spurs), and if you said he'd be an all-star one day, much less and MVP candidate you'd be in for one hell of an argument.