2025 NBA Draft Prospect Part 2

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The guy is new to basketball and already has a pretty good feel for the game. He's also a multisport athlete so if you get Poeltl (Poeltl only has a 7'1 wingspan)with a jumpshot as a high end outcome that's an all star and a very valuable piece.

I cannot buy into the upside of a center who took his 2pt% from .500 to .519. If he can't score the ball remotely efficiently he's going to have problems and the FT% and 3pt sample is sketchy. There is zero reason to buy into him having any kind of reliable jumpshot going forward with his 3pt volume and FT%.

He’s gone from bench to starter with increased minutes and has made micro improvements at nearly every facet of his game. So there is steady growth.

He’s also pulled out advanced moves and passes, not sure anyone projected in the first round has displayed better instinctive playmaking chops.

Add that to him being late to the game and there’s a lot of upside here. He should be thought of as a project.

Scrubs like Kalkbrenner and Ballo who can only pull off simplistic moves have very limited upside. It’s like Mogbo, great efficiency in college, but a lot of it was done on dunks and lay-ups. How well do you think that’s translating to the NBA?

His playmaking will not matter much if he cant shoot or score at a respectable level. Calling Kalkbrenner a scrub is naive.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I love how people use injuries to excuse players just being flat out bad in certain regards. Last year it was done with Cody Williams among others.

[RoteSchroder]

I love how people use injuries to excuse players just being flat out bad in certain regards. Last year it was done with Cody Williams among others.

If you’re talking about Kasp, he went from knocking down step backs to shooting 14%. So either his first 70% of games were flukes, he’s in a slump, his injury somehow affected his shooting, or a fourth reason.

Speculating on the reasoning behind his shooting woes isn’t the same as “using excuses”.

[Troubadour]

Give me VJ Edgecombe or give me death

[RoteSchroder]

I cannot buy into the upside of a center who took his 2pt% from .500 to .519. If he can't score the ball remotely efficiently he's going to have problems and the FT% and 3pt sample is sketchy. There is zero reason to buy into him having any kind of reliable jumpshot going forward with his 3pt volume and FT%.

He’s gone from bench to starter with increased minutes and has made micro improvements at nearly every facet of his game. So there is steady growth.

He’s also pulled out advanced moves and passes, not sure anyone projected in the first round has displayed better instinctive playmaking chops.

Add that to him being late to the game and there’s a lot of upside here. He should be thought of as a project.

Scrubs like Kalkbrenner and Ballo who can only pull off simplistic moves have very limited upside. It’s like Mogbo, great efficiency in college, but a lot of it was done on dunks and lay-ups. How well do you think that’s translating to the NBA?

His playmaking will not matter much if he cant shoot or score at a respectable level. Calling Kalkbrenner a scrub is naive.

His shooting/scoring is still a major question mark. Raw projects aren’t supposed to be great scorers, that’s why they’re raw and projects.

Kalkbrenner is likely a back-up level C with zero star potential

[earthtone]

Hornets basically have no choice but to draft Maluach now if they outside the top 4

I mean, I have Sorber and Condon ahead of him, maybe others too.

I could be wrong, he does have a lot of potential. I just think he's too far away and busts far too often to be a lottery pick. (70-80% bust risk)

What outcome would you call a bust for Maluach?

[canada_dry]

I have dreams of selecting jaku at 5th or 6th after he falls there and he's running our second unit , bench mob 2.0 next season, while obviously also getting some run with the starters.

[Yallbecrazy]

Hornets basically have no choice but to draft Maluach now if they outside the top 4

I mean, I have Sorber and Condon ahead of him, maybe others too.

I could be wrong, he does have a lot of potential. I just think he's too far away and busts far too often to be a lottery pick. (70-80% bust risk)

What outcome would you call a bust for Maluach?

Any player that in their prime can't crack the rotation (top 8/9 players) of most contending teams (top 6-8).

Basically if you're never good enough to get any playoff minutes on a championship level team.

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He’s gone from bench to starter with increased minutes and has made micro improvements at nearly every facet of his game. So there is steady growth.

He’s also pulled out advanced moves and passes, not sure anyone projected in the first round has displayed better instinctive playmaking chops.

Add that to him being late to the game and there’s a lot of upside here. He should be thought of as a project.

Scrubs like Kalkbrenner and Ballo who can only pull off simplistic moves have very limited upside. It’s like Mogbo, great efficiency in college, but a lot of it was done on dunks and lay-ups. How well do you think that’s translating to the NBA?

His playmaking will not matter much if he cant shoot or score at a respectable level. Calling Kalkbrenner a scrub is naive.

His shooting/scoring is still a major question mark. Raw projects aren’t supposed to be great scorers, that’s why they’re raw and projects.

Kalkbrenner is likely a back-up level C with zero star potential

I think Kalk's ceiling is Luke Kornet (who I want with the MLE in the summer, also making the Celtics weaker).

[Indeed]

If Masai is serious about trading for Ingram and finishing outside the top 5 I can only assume he's locked in on Malauch

I also think Masai is dead set on Maluach.

Been saying this for quite some time, but it becomes more and more obvious with each passing day.

Some report has Sorber having a similar wingspan to Maluach, so I am not sure it is locked in / dead set.

[Indeed]

Hornets basically have no choice but to draft Maluach now if they outside the top 4

I mean, I have Sorber and Condon ahead of him, maybe others too.

I could be wrong, he does have a lot of potential. I just think he's too far away and busts far too often to be a lottery pick. (70-80% bust risk)

What outcome would you call a bust for Maluach?

I also have Sorber who might have the same wingspan in the 7'5 range.
Sorber maybe more capable of creating his ownshot in faceup and make the pass.

A bust would be not becoming a starter. Particularly, if someone drafted below him may have a far better impact

[GoRapstheoriginal]

Someone create the next thread plz/thx.

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Anthony Bennett was not tall enough as a tweener. Is Rasheer Fleming's floor a taller fitter Anthony Bennett with a high motor?

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I think more likely he's DaRon Holmes 2.0.

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[DreamTeam09]

Anthony Bennett was not tall enough as a tweener. Is Rasheer Fleming's floor a taller fitter Anthony Bennett with a high motor?

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I think more likely he's DaRon Holmes 2.0.

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Flemming is more slender than both Holmes and Bennett. I feel he's more of a 4/3 rather than a 4/5.. I'm really high on Flemming, his 3pt shot is legit

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Flemming is more slender than both Holmes and Bennett. I feel he's more of a 4/3 rather than a 4/5.. I'm really high on Flemming, his 3pt shot is legit

Possibly like a 1 inch taller OG?

I was thinking, Condon is newish to the sport like Pascal Siakam. Condon seems like he could be the 6'11 Pascal that can already pass and shoot 3's now. Pascal shot 38% last season and now 40% from 3, WTF?!?!?!? A Pascal that can play C.

If the Raptors don't move into the top 4, I would be willing to trade down. Maybe trade our pick and Portland 2nd to Orlando for
#15 Rasheer Fleming
#25 Alex Condon

PG IQ - Shead/Jakobe
SG Barrett - Dick/Jakobe
SF Ingram - Agbaji/Mogbo - Battle
PF Scottie - Boucher - Rasheer
C Poeltl - Wiseman/Condon - Chomche

G-Leage - Battle, Rasheer, Condon, Chomche

I'm wondering if they have enough with Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and 1st picks for Joel Embiid?

[DreamTeam09]

Flemming is more slender than both Holmes and Bennett. I feel he's more of a 4/3 rather than a 4/5.. I'm really high on Flemming, his 3pt shot is legit

Possibly like a 1 inch taller OG?

I was thinking, Condon is newish to the sport like Pascal Siakam. Condon seems like he could be the 6'11 Pascal that can already pass and shoot 3's now. Pascal shot 38% last season and now 40% from 3, WTF?!?!?!? A Pascal that can play C.

If the Raptors don't move into the top 4, I would be willing to trade down. Maybe trade our pick and Portland 2nd to Orlando for
#15 Rasheer Fleming
#25 Alex Condon

PG IQ - Shead/Jakobe
SG Barrett - Dick/Jakobe
SF Ingram - Agbaji/Mogbo - Battle
PF Scottie - Boucher - Rasheer
C Poeltl - Wiseman/Condon - Chomche

G-Leage - Battle, Rasheer, Condon, Chomche

I'm wondering if they have enough with Poeltl, Barrett, Dick and 1st picks for Joel Embiid?

I must say I'm not familiar with Condon, I usually wait for names to pop here and then go do some eval so I guess he's up next.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

His playmaking will not matter much if he cant shoot or score at a respectable level. Calling Kalkbrenner a scrub is naive.

His shooting/scoring is still a major question mark. Raw projects aren’t supposed to be great scorers, that’s why they’re raw and projects.

Kalkbrenner is likely a back-up level C with zero star potential

I think Kalk's ceiling is Luke Kornet (who I want with the MLE in the summer, also making the Celtics weaker).

Probably one of the few player comps I've seen you make over the years that I agree with. That's what we've been going with for a while is Luke Kornet.

Kalkbrenner is a winner and a genuinely huge dude who really knows how to play the game of basketball and has proven it beyond all doubt. He will probably be way up there on league TS% leaderboard. High end rotation players in most drafts end up deserving late lotto in redrafts.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

I love how people use injuries to excuse players just being flat out bad in certain regards. Last year it was done with Cody Williams among others.

If you’re talking about Kasp, he went from knocking down step backs to shooting 14%. So either his first 70% of games were flukes, he’s in a slump, his injury somehow affected his shooting, or a fourth reason.

Speculating on the reasoning behind his shooting woes isn’t the same as “using excuses”.

Oh no Kasparas just sucks, doesn't have the handle, shot creation or athleticism to be anything of substance in the NBA. I was very hopeful for him earlier in the year and the film and production has been incredibly underwhelming. Not only is his handle sloppy and he's prone to lost ball turnovers but he carries little driving gravity, most of his passing is overhead swing passes along the perimeter. Really overhyped player. Topic last year clears him easily.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

Anthony Bennett was not tall enough as a tweener. Is Rasheer Fleming's floor a taller fitter Anthony Bennett with a high motor?

Watch on YouTube

I think more likely he's DaRon Holmes 2.0.

Watch on YouTube

Flemming is more slender than both Holmes and Bennett. I feel he's more of a 4/3 rather than a 4/5.. I'm really high on Flemming, his 3pt shot is legit

Fleming's 3 point shot is not legit at all. He's a tweener. His 8.9 BPM is against 1.09 SOS. I was scavenging through +++ WS players last month hoping to find gold and Fleming underwhelmed. I don't think he's a guy at all.

[REJECTEDBYCLARK]

In terms of the marketplace of what NBA teams are actually going to do I'd want to target VJ early-mid lotto if Raps can't get Flagg. If VJ isn't there I'd trade down and take Carter Bryant who is a genuine stud wing. I would also love to line up Braden Smith on the cheap with Jamal and let them duke it out.