2024-25 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V1.0

[CazOnReal]

Some quick and dirty trade frameworks for a backup center - or at least someone who could be considered big enough to be a backup 5 in a pinch:






I did have a WCJ trade in mind but the more I think about it, the more I don't see Goga or Wendell being moved by the Magic. Future Fox News host Johnathan Isaac? Sure but he's basically salary filler at this stage. Orlando has got their own issues at center to solve and are poised for a consolidation trade to fix that with the salaries they've got on the books. Shame about the lack of picks, mind, but I can see them making a move to get Nic Claxton instead of gambling on the Wendell Carter Jr. experience every night because he is remarkably inconsistent.

Zeke Nnaji's contract is awful so there's an argument to be made that this isn't enough to get off of said deal for Denver so feel free to add in a 2nd rounder or two (A first-round swap might be a bit indulgent). Either way, I would not be surprised if - with the addition of CMB - Johnathan Mogbo is potentially moved if for no other reason than turning him into a second rounder would get the Raptors right under the luxury tax. This move is more of a long-term bet on rehabbing Zeke Nnaji but if he can't play well with Jokic...well that's what DaRon Holmes is there for. Not the biggest center and is more of a tweener but his profile on offense is a perfect fit for what we want out of our backup 5. Plus if you're a big believer in his shot, he could potentially soften the blow of losing Mamu in the offseason (Please just pay the tax and give him the TPMLE Ed).

I only included a 2nd for the Queta trade because of the Division Tax™ because, aside from him being injured right now, we haven't traded with the Celtics in a long time albeit we did allegedly call them about Jrue/White in the offseason. Frankly i'm only including him because I got to support my fellow Portuguese so shoutout to Neemias.

Sharpe still remains the most likely target in my eyes. Yes the Nets are division rivals but the Raptors have shown a willingness to trade with them far more than the other Atlantic teams i.e. the Schroder deal two seasons ago. Only hesitation I have is...well basically every deal we've made with the Nets has sucked. So this might be considered optimistic. That said, Sharpe can very well become a free agent this offseason so there's plenty of risk he might leave for nothing so maybe 1-2 seconds is enough given that context. Something something Scottie's friend. The real reason I think he's the most likely target is nothing to do with their friendship; Sharpe was one of the guys we were rumored to be going after at last year's trade deadline.

[TGM]

[quote="CazOnReal"][quote="MiamiSPX"][quote="Thaddy"]Markannen might be the guy. A stretch 7 footer would be insane for our forwards to play with.

I would guess it takes 2 of IQ, RJ and Poeltl just because of how the cap is.

IQ or Poeltl, RJ, Agbaji and 2 firsts to a third team and Markannen and Kessler to Toronto.

Poeltl / Kessler
Markkanen / Mamu
Barnes / CMB / Battle
Ingram / Dick / Agbaji
Shead / Walter / Hepburn

We get bigger with size and more shooting.[/quote]

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Congratulation to Danny Ainge for ensuring Lauri Markkanen will be an Utah lifer and waste his career away on a non-playoff team.[/quote]

Maybe Holland and Ivey but no picks would probably be about right.

[Spida888]

Some quick and dirty trade frameworks for a backup center - or at least someone who could be considered big enough to be a backup 5 in a pinch:

Spoiler:

I did have a WCJ trade in mind but the more I think about it, the more I don't see Goga or Wendell being moved by the Magic. Future Fox News host Johnathan Isaac? Sure but he's basically salary filler at this stage. Orlando has got their own issues at center to solve and are poised for a consolidation trade to fix that with the salaries they've got on the books. Shame about the lack of picks, mind, but I can see them making a move to get Nic Claxton instead of gambling on the Wendell Carter Jr. experience every night because he is remarkably inconsistent.

Zeke Nnaji's contract is awful so there's an argument to be made that this isn't enough to get off of said deal for Denver so feel free to add in a 2nd rounder or two (A first-round swap might be a bit indulgent). Either way, I would not be surprised if - with the addition of CMB - Johnathan Mogbo is potentially moved if for no other reason than turning him into a second rounder would get the Raptors right under the luxury tax. This move is more of a long-term bet on rehabbing Zeke Nnaji but if he can't play well with Jokic...well that's what DaRon Holmes is there for. Not the biggest center and is more of a tweener but his profile on offense is a perfect fit for what we want out of our backup 5. Plus if you're a big believer in his shot, he could potentially soften the blow of losing Mamu in the offseason (Please just pay the tax and give him the TPMLE Ed).

I only included a 2nd for the Queta trade because of the Division Tax™ because, aside from him being injured right now, we haven't traded with the Celtics in a long time albeit we did allegedly call them about Jrue/White in the offseason. Frankly i'm only including him because I got to support my fellow Portuguese so shoutout to Neemias.

Sharpe still remains the most likely target in my eyes. Yes the Nets are division rivals but the Raptors have shown a willingness to trade with them far more than the other Atlantic teams i.e. the Schroder deal two seasons ago. Only hesitation I have is...well basically every deal we've made with the Nets has sucked. So this might be considered optimistic. That said, Sharpe can very well become a free agent this offseason so there's plenty of risk he might leave for nothing so maybe 1-2 seconds is enough given that context. Something something Scottie's friend. The real reason I think he's the most likely target is nothing to do with their friendship; Sharpe was one of the guys we were rumored to be going after at last year's trade deadline.

Sharpe or Queta would be good. Is it not a team option on Sharpe's contract next year?
The Nets have cap space too. Can be a suiter to absorb Temple's contract to get under the tax.
If we convert a two way to a min contract to get to 14 min players, I believe it should be less than Temple's contract and we would still be slightly under the tax.

[PushDaRock]

Ochai and Dick for Lopez and Paul

you should be banned from this board.

It’s not too bad of a trade and I get the logic behind. Brooks stats might look like crap but that’s cause he isn’t getting minutes. He can be a good depth veteran piece. Paul likewise can still play quality minutes. Really depends how high you are on Dick. I think he can be a 15-18 ppg guy, but not sure his game goes beyond that. Ochai is not a significant piece one way or the other pretty replaceable in my mind.

I'm curious what gives you the idea that Chris Paul can still give you quality mins?

The Clippers are 5-13 and playing guys like Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kris Dunn and Kobe Sanders in front of him.

Lopez isn't just not getting mins, he's not getting mins on a 5-13 team lol

Both these guys are cooked.

[Raptors_128]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

[bballsparkin]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

I don't think he will be available for cheap. Dallas can simply rest him this year and acquire a high 2026 pick. Then look to move him in the off-season when a large contract like his is more manageable to move.

[Tripod]

you should be banned from this board.

It’s not too bad of a trade and I get the logic behind. Brooks stats might look like crap but that’s cause he isn’t getting minutes. He can be a good depth veteran piece. Paul likewise can still play quality minutes. Really depends how high you are on Dick. I think he can be a 15-18 ppg guy, but not sure his game goes beyond that. Ochai is not a significant piece one way or the other pretty replaceable in my mind.

I'm curious what gives you the idea that Chris Paul can still give you quality mins?

The Clippers are 5-13 and playing guys like Bogdan Bogdanovic, Kris Dunn and Kobe Sanders in front of him.

Lopez isn't just not getting mins, he's not getting mins on a 5-13 team lol

Both these guys are cooked.

I 100% admit I have not seen either play this year....lol.

[causal_fan]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

NO thank you - Since 2018 AD has played 65+ games once and his salary is astronomical 54.1 this year, 58.4 & 62.8 (player option) he isn't Jokic.

[Raptorfan2012]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

AD intrigues me but the guy makes $54M a season; we will have to trade RJ and one of IQ or Jak to make it work. That will probably be a NO for me; we don't have enough trash salaries to give up.

[CazOnReal]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

Issue with AD is that even at his "cheapest", you bare minimum have to include two of our starters because we have zero middle of the pack contracts and Davis is making over $54 million - and this is before you factor in him wanting an extension (Though fun fact: He's got the same agency as Brandon Ingram in Klutch!). It's either rookie contract or starter money. In fact i'm pretty sure if it's RJ & Poeltl, you would need to include Ochai & Dwight Powell to make it work for both teams.

I will say i've resigned myself to the fact that we're probably going to be the team that trades for Anthony Davis because Bobby Webster loves him a good buy-low on talent. My guess is it'll be something like this:

Sharpe or Queta would be good. Is it not a team option on Sharpe's contract next year?
The Nets have cap space too. Can be a suiter to absorb Temple's contract to get under the tax.
If we convert a two way to a min contract to get to 14 min players, I believe it should be less than Temple's contract and we would still be slightly under the tax.

Yeah I forgot it's a TO and not a player option. Still, my point stands that his current contract is Kuminga-like in that it's meant to be torn up & re-negotiated in the offseason for a longer team deal. In either case, it's not as long as it would seem before he could be lost in free agency for nothing.

[Thaddy]

Ochai for Sharpe. That's a good small deal. We need a 3rd string center for sure. If we could get back a pick, maybe even early 2nd that'd be ideal. I want to have a C free agent and 2 C big man picks for next season.

[Raptorfan2012]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

Issue with AD is that even at his "cheapest", you bare minimum have to include two of our starters because we have zero middle of the pack contracts and Davis is making over $54 million - and this is before you factor in him wanting an extension (Though fun fact: He's got the same agency as Brandon Ingram in Klutch!). It's either rookie contract or starter money. In fact i'm pretty sure if it's RJ & Poeltl, you would need to include Ochai & Dwight Powell to make it work for both teams.

I will say i've resigned myself to the fact that we're probably going to be the team that trades for Anthony Davis because Bobby Webster loves him a good buy-low on talent. My guess is it'll be something like this:

Sharpe or Queta would be good. Is it not a team option on Sharpe's contract next year?
The Nets have cap space too. Can be a suiter to absorb Temple's contract to get under the tax.
If we convert a two way to a min contract to get to 14 min players, I believe it should be less than Temple's contract and we would still be slightly under the tax.

Yeah I forgot it's a TO and not a player option. Still, my point stands that his current contract is Kuminga-like in that it's meant to be torn up & re-negotiated in the offseason for a longer team deal. In either case, it's not as long as it would seem before he could be lost in free agency for nothing.

An AD deal will be very close to our Kawhi deal where if EVERYTHING works out, then it can place us in the finals. A healthy AD can be a top 10-15 player in the league; the exact type of modern big man that this team needs (block shots, shoot from the outside), but similar to Kawhi, it will involve tons of load management and buy in and some luck on our side. It really is a swing for the fences and pray type of deals.

[Mr Swagtastic]

If AD can be had for cheap like RJ + filler then that has to be the move.

We’ve seen what Alex McKechnie has done with Ingram and Kawhi. Healthy AD is easily a top-10 player.

Issue with AD is that even at his "cheapest", you bare minimum have to include two of our starters because we have zero middle of the pack contracts and Davis is making over $54 million - and this is before you factor in him wanting an extension (Though fun fact: He's got the same agency as Brandon Ingram in Klutch!). It's either rookie contract or starter money. In fact i'm pretty sure if it's RJ & Poeltl, you would need to include Ochai & Dwight Powell to make it work for both teams.

I will say i've resigned myself to the fact that we're probably going to be the team that trades for Anthony Davis because Bobby Webster loves him a good buy-low on talent. My guess is it'll be something like this:

Sharpe or Queta would be good. Is it not a team option on Sharpe's contract next year?
The Nets have cap space too. Can be a suiter to absorb Temple's contract to get under the tax.
If we convert a two way to a min contract to get to 14 min players, I believe it should be less than Temple's contract and we would still be slightly under the tax.

Yeah I forgot it's a TO and not a player option. Still, my point stands that his current contract is Kuminga-like in that it's meant to be torn up & re-negotiated in the offseason for a longer team deal. In either case, it's not as long as it would seem before he could be lost in free agency for nothing.

An AD deal will be very close to our Kawhi deal where if EVERYTHING works out, then it can place us in the finals. A healthy AD can be a top 10-15 player in the league; the exact type of modern big man that this team needs (block shots, shoot from the outside), but similar to Kawhi, it will involve tons of load management and buy in and some luck on our side. It really is a swing for the fences and pray type of deals.

Problem is Kawhi was a top 2-4 player in the league. AD was at one point and time was top 5 but he's been often injured in his last 6 seasons only 1 was over 70 games. I don't think he's the Kawhi type of move especially with the money owed. People also forget Danny Green was in the deal and he was a great addition.

[ArthurVandelay]

The problem with AD is he is not only old and injury prone, but this offseason he showed he was lazy. You’d think he’d be highly motivated after all the criticism of the Luka trade. But what does he do? He shows up to camp at 268lbs. Came in overweight (the irony considering lack of conditioning was one of the issues Nico had in Dallas with Luka).

That is tough to ignore.

[dballislife]

how good would this teams be?

jjj or sabonis
barnes
ingram
rj
quickley

[Johnston]

After watching TJ last night. Id love to have a PG like that coming off the bench for this team.

[Dennis 37]

Koloko has been waved. He would be a cheap option for a center backup.

He's number 10 in this video.

Watch on YouTube

[JCP11]

how good would this teams be?

jjj or sabonis
barnes
ingram
rj
quickley

This is not realistic. RJ or IQ would be included at least to make this work. Also i don't want too many dimensional players on this this starting 5, Sabonis is not solving that. JJJ would cost a lot but i would love it, howver i don't see them trading him. Ja would be the one who should get traded.

[JCP11]

After watching TJ last night. Id love to have a PG like that coming off the bench for this team.

I love TJ but be are good with Shead.

[ChinaManTran]

Whats yall take on "Slim Jesus" Miika Muurinen.

Seen a couple highlights, crazy bounce. According to Markkanen hes high energy in practice.

Draft him for the nickname a lone.