2019-20 Season: Draft, Trades, and FA Ideas Thread V2

[Morse Code]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

[Zeno]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

[Psubs]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

I couldn't find single team that really needed a SG with a draft pick in the 20's.

Maybe Denver trades Gary Harris and 2021 1st pick for Buddy Hield and 2021 2nd pick?

PG Murray - Morris - Campazzo
SG Hield - Barton - Morris
SF MPJr - Barton - Hampton
PF JaMychalG - MPJr - Nnaji
C Jokic - BolBol/Nnaji

I think this team could take #1 in the West.

[douggood]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

I couldn't find single team that really needed a SG with a draft pick in the 20's.

Maybe Denver trades Gary Harris and 2021 1st pick for Buddy Hield and 2021 2nd pick?

PG Murray - Morris - Campazzo
SG Hield - Barton - Morris
SF MPJr - Barton - Hampton
PF JaMychalG - MPJr - Nnaji
C Jokic - BolBol/Nnaji

I think this team could take #1 in the West.

nuggets dont need more scoring, they need defense, harris is better at defense.

[Morse Code]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

Yeah I wouldn’t sacrifice our cap flexibility next year either. Hadn’t considered contracts cuz I don’t know everyone’s salary but if there’s no other way to match salary without losing Pascal or OG, then it’s a no go. I’d trade Fred for him though once he can be traded.

[douggood]

Buddy Hield anyone? Kings seeking picks.

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

Yeah I wouldn’t sacrifice our cap flexibility next year either. Hadn’t considered contracts cuz I don’t know everyone’s salary but if there’s no other way to match salary without losing Pascal or OG, then it’s a no go. I’d trade Fred for him though once he can be traded.

he signed a 4 year $94 million extension that starts this year.

[Zeno]

Forgetting about the player and the picks, we are trying to preserve capspace so unless you trade at least an equivalent in salary on the books for next year, we are blowing up our plans. So it's either Siakam for Hield which is a crazy strong no thank you. Or it's OG and Norm for Hield and that is also a very uber strong no thank you. Or as I said it's blowing up our future cap plans for Buddy Hield with a package of Norm,McCaw, Stanley and a protected 1st which is also a super strong no thank you. We did not let Ibaka walk for this.

Yeah I wouldn’t sacrifice our cap flexibility next year either. Hadn’t considered contracts cuz I don’t know everyone’s salary but if there’s no other way to match salary without losing Pascal or OG, then it’s a no go. I’d trade Fred for him though once he can be traded.

he signed a 4 year $94 million extension that starts this year.

Exactly, that means minimum of Fred and Norm have to go to maintain max space for the following year. And it would be super tight so I don't think you'd be able to keep any guys in addition to him,OG, Pascal maybe Flynn. I would do Heild for Fred in a vacuum anyway but definitely not with our capspace plans.

[tecumseh18]

Yeah I wouldn’t sacrifice our cap flexibility next year either. Hadn’t considered contracts cuz I don’t know everyone’s salary but if there’s no other way to match salary without losing Pascal or OG, then it’s a no go. I’d trade Fred for him though once he can be traded.

he signed a 4 year $94 million extension that starts this year.

Exactly, that means minimum of Fred and Norm have to go to maintain max space for the following year. And it would be super tight so I don't think you'd be able to keep any guys in addition to him,OG, Pascal maybe Flynn. I would do Heild for Fred in a vacuum anyway but definitely not with our capspace plans.

There's a veteran poster (VooDoo7) on the Bucks board who purports to have inside info that Giannis is extending with them. Announcement may be tonight.

FELLAS!!!

If VooDoo7 gets this right we need a graphic in his honor like the one with Batman and the BuckPack-signal.

When it's announced, some will believe me, some will say I was just BSing. I honestly don't care. I just see people here freaking out when they don't need to be. So that's why I'm saying what I know...which is it's a damn done deal.

So ... yeah, this Heild guy may be worth a look if he can play defence. But why would the Kings trade him after refusing to match on Bogdan? Oh right, they're the Kings.

[Son Goku 25]

Damn

[Zeno]

he signed a 4 year $94 million extension that starts this year.

Exactly, that means minimum of Fred and Norm have to go to maintain max space for the following year. And it would be super tight so I don't think you'd be able to keep any guys in addition to him,OG, Pascal maybe Flynn. I would do Heild for Fred in a vacuum anyway but definitely not with our capspace plans.

There's a veteran poster (VooDoo7) on the Bucks board who purports to have inside info that Giannis is extending with them. Announcement may be tonight.

If VooDoo7 gets this right we need a graphic in his honor like the one with Batman and the BuckPack-signal.

When it's announced, some will believe me, some will say I was just BSing. I honestly don't care. I just see people here freaking out when they don't need to be. So that's why I'm saying what I know...which is it's a damn done deal.

So ... yeah, this Heild guy may be worth a look if he can play defence. But why would the Kings trade him after refusing to match on Bogdan? Oh right, they're the Kings.

Hield isn’t much on defence. I don’t think I’d trade Norm, McCaw, Stanley and a 1st for him because I’d probably rather extend Norm at 13 million per, use our first and let the others walk if we give up on capspace.

[tecumseh18]

Damn

Well, VooDoo7 is just one guy (although long-timer PaulPressy seems to agree with him). But, everyone agrees this is taking WAY too long. With training camp starting, it's now or never (or next year).

It's funny to lurk on the Bucks board. The depressive fatalism is familiar to me as a long time Raps fan, but the Raps didn't screw up nearly as many times with lottery picks as the Bucks did. I feel for those guys, and part of me hopes that Giannis does re-sign. We've had our fun.

My personal take - there's just no way Bucks' management would have given up so much for Jrue without a commitment from Giannis. It basically forces them to trade Giannis now if he doesn't re-up to recover all that draft capital. They don't want to spent years at the bottom of the standings without draft picks.

[Psubs]

If I was Giannis, I would sign a 2 + 1. If things don't work out after 2 more seasons leave and would be 28 to sign a 4 year max. Also if accepts his 3rd year would give him 10 years in the league for Supermax. Also the 2+1 keeps the organization on it's toes.

[YogurtProducer]

Harden sounds like he really wants out. His mom said he wants to win a ring.

Let’s just **** get the guy. He improves our team so much and if it’s possible take the sure thing over the Giannis maybe. Hell, I’m sure Giannis would squash the beef and join James if it meant being on a great team

[Raptors_128]

Harden sounds like he really wants out. His mom said he wants to win a ring.

Let’s just **** get the guy. He improves our team so much and if it’s possible take the sure thing over the Giannis maybe. Hell, I’m sure Giannis would squash the beef and join James if it meant being on a great team

A trade will be tough. You either move Siakam+ or OG++ and the ++ will probably include Lowry. I don’t think they’ll move Fred after just signing him either.

Lowry + OG + picks for Harden + Tucker is the only trade that makes sense in my opinion but I don’t know why Houston would want Lowry at his age and contract status.

If we didn’t care about optics I would move Fred + OG + TD + picks in a heartbeat.

Lowry/Harden/Tucker/Siakam/Baynes is so nasty.

[TheAlchemist]

Harden sounds like he really wants out. His mom said he wants to win a ring.

Let’s just **** get the guy. He improves our team so much and if it’s possible take the sure thing over the Giannis maybe. Hell, I’m sure Giannis would squash the beef and join James if it meant being on a great team

It'd be something like Lowry + Norm + TD + SJ + multiple picks for Harden, PJ Tucker, Mclemore

You roll with a lineup of;

FVV / McCaw
Harden / Mclemore
PJ Tucker / OG
Siakam / Booshay
Baynes / Len

We'd need a couple more trades for depth, but that's a hell of a lineup.

[TheAlchemist]

Harden sounds like he really wants out. His mom said he wants to win a ring.

Let’s just **** get the guy. He improves our team so much and if it’s possible take the sure thing over the Giannis maybe. Hell, I’m sure Giannis would squash the beef and join James if it meant being on a great team

A trade will be tough. You either move Siakam+ or OG++ and the ++ will probably include Lowry. I don’t think they’ll move Fred after just signing him either.

Lowry + OG + picks for Harden + Tucker is the only trade that makes sense in my opinion but I don’t know why Houston would want Lowry at his age and contract status.

If we didn’t care about optics I would move Fred + OG + TD + picks in a heartbeat.

Lowry/Harden/Tucker/Siakam/Baynes is so nasty.

Honestly, that's the trade I'd go for as well. Houston would be super happy with that too. But we'd have to pull that off at the trade deadline, since we can't trade FVV right away.

[DAcReator]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but what we think about Blake Griffin next year as a possible consolidation prize for failing to land Giannis? I know he has his baggage and can be more flash than product at times but I think he could also benefit from a disciplined coach and program. He’s also matured since his years in Detroit

[Psubs]

Not sure if this has been brought up yet, but what we think about Blake Griffin next year as a possible consolidation prize for failing to land Giannis? I know he has his baggage and can be more flash than product at times but I think he could also benefit from a disciplined coach and program. He’s also matured since his years in Detroit

He is not going to opt out of his $29 million player option for 2021/2022.

[Raptors_128]

What do y’all think of this trade? If I take my emotions out of it, it kind of makes sense to me.

Toronto gets: James Harden + PJ Tucker
Houston gets: Paul George + Terence Davis + Lou Williams + 2021 Raptors 1st
Clippers get: Kyle Lowry + Norman Powell

FVV/Harden/OG/Siakam/Baynes
Flynn/Thomas/Watson/Tucker/Boucher

Wall/Gordon/PG/House/Wood
Williams/Davis/Nwaba/Caboclo/Cousins

Lowry/Powell/Leonard/Morris/Ibaka
Beverly/Kennard/Batum/Patterson/Zubac

[wayoftheroad]

Hey guys I have a question and I'm pretty sure I know the answer.

Could we not have offered Serge a 1 year $20M deal? I know we didn't want to go 2 years to maintain a max spot but he got a 2 year deal of the MLE total almost $20M.

Same situation with Marc, couldn't we just have given them the 2 year total but instead a 1 year term.
Or were we over the salary cap?