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Re: Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search. 

Post#1981 » by ArthurVandelay » Mon May 29, 2023 11:18 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:
Too much smoke with Jordi now.

Hire him already.

Pretty sure Masaijust waiting for this thread to hit 100 pages

We close

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Embarrassing…so this is how aToronto beat writers feel

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Post#1982 » by PushDaRock » Mon May 29, 2023 11:18 pm

If I were to guess what is taking so long, it's likely in getting the right mix to the coaching staff. Whoever is getting hired probably isn't getting anywhere close to autonomy in hiring their staff, so management is probably mixing and matching to put together what they feel is a well rounded staff and they probably have some assistants they want to hire and are trying to figure out who fits best with them among their top candidates.
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Re: Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search. 

Post#1983 » by Raptors_128 » Mon May 29, 2023 11:20 pm

ArthurVandelay wrote:
ArthurVandelay wrote:
Raptors_128 wrote:
Too much smoke with Jordi now.

Hire him already.

Pretty sure Masaijust waiting for this thread to hit 100 pages

We close

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He got hired?!?
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Re: Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search. 

Post#1984 » by Ranger One » Mon May 29, 2023 11:33 pm

Is it true that Becky Hammond said in an interview that she has ZERO interest in the Raptors coaching position? Just heard it mentioned on the radio. It does make sense to me as this Raptors coaching position is amongst the least desirable ones in the league. I mean, who would you rather go goach, teams who are actually trying to win with superstar talent like Joel Embiid, Giannis, KD etc, or go goach a potentially rebuilding team featuring Scottie...and uh..FVV? Yeah....Masai needs to be humbled if he thinks people are lining up to coach here lmao.
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Post#1985 » by ItsDanger » Mon May 29, 2023 11:38 pm

Masai needs more time to evaluate.

Patience.
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Post#1986 » by Ackshun » Mon May 29, 2023 11:42 pm

ItsDanger wrote:Masai needs more time to evaluate.

Patience.


Should be able to get some good interviews in at Summer League
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Post#1987 » by TNRaps4life » Mon May 29, 2023 11:42 pm

ForeverTFC wrote:
mtcan wrote:Would it be weird if the Raptors end up hiring Doc Rivers?


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Re: Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search. 

Post#1988 » by Spates » Mon May 29, 2023 11:51 pm

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Spates wrote:This is a headache. I'm stuck in an argument I don't want to have. Where can we agree to disagree?

I'll move away from the unnecessary. Ball screens are an important part of the game. They open up a variety of options for teams to move defenses, get players into space, create matchup advantages, etc. What I'm contesting is that losing Fred is a huge issue regarding ball screen usage. Losing the primary handler in a bad shooting offense isn't a tragedy. He shot terribly and had a pretty bad assist to usage ratio. Democratize the ball screens and adapt your play initiation.

You really need to move away from this PG argument. Typically when a teams best player is a non-big, that player will be using the most ball screens whether pg, sg, or sf. Tatum and Butler use the most ball screens for their teams. Jokic creates most looks for his team and he barely uses at ball screens.


Those best players using screens (non-big) the most are typically playing 'the point' in those sets. I'm not sure how you can acknowledge that these really great players all run this action and also come up with "democratize the ball screens." I think Fred's assist ratio with Poeltl was close to 30, so... that's pretty high. Prior was like 26, which is also good.

Typically when a player is using an on-ball screen we call them a ball handler or initiator, it doesn't have much to do with position. It most common with guards, but not inherent to the position. If any player can step in to play the point in a set then sometimes FVV is a wing and sometimes OG is a PG.

You democratize the ball screens for the Raptors because no one excels at using them. But they're mandatory as you say. I mentioned assist to usage, not assist ratio. I'm highlighting the fact that consider Fred's usage he doesn't score or assist at a high rate. As a matter of you could argue that strategically, especially given last year's results, the team should have leveraged Fred more frequently as a catch and shoot play finisher and increased Pascal's ball screen usage.
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Post#1989 » by bobbyp3588 » Mon May 29, 2023 11:52 pm

Ranger One wrote:Is it true that Becky Hammond said in an interview that she has ZERO interest in the Raptors coaching position? Just heard it mentioned on the radio. It does make sense to me as this Raptors coaching position is amongst the least desirable ones in the league. I mean, who would you rather go goach, teams who are actually trying to win with superstar talent like Joel Embiid, Giannis, KD etc, or go goach a potentially rebuilding team featuring Scottie...and uh..FVV? Yeah....Masai needs to be humbled if he thinks people are lining up to coach here lmao.


Give your head a shake.

There are only 30 NBA head coaching gigs. To be clear.... 30 people, in the entire world, (at any given time) get to be an NBA head coach. Even the least desirable NBA head coaching position is among the 30 most desirable in the whole world.

Everyone who has agreed to interview for the position is lining up for it. Thousands more would if they could. How humbling!
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Post#1990 » by WaltFrazier » Tue May 30, 2023 12:00 am

I posted in the Nurse thread, poor Bud will be without a job. I forgot Monty. Maybe we hire Monty now after all and one of the assistant candidates as his top assistant
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Post#1991 » by ItsDanger » Tue May 30, 2023 12:04 am

A good pick and roll PG has a floater game. Fred has never had that in his arsenal. Let alone the other obvious issues. Get rid of him.
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Re: Woj: Raptors begin wide ranging coaching search. 

Post#1992 » by Ranger One » Tue May 30, 2023 12:11 am

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Ranger One wrote:Is it true that Becky Hammond said in an interview that she has ZERO interest in the Raptors coaching position? Just heard it mentioned on the radio. It does make sense to me as this Raptors coaching position is amongst the least desirable ones in the league. I mean, who would you rather go goach, teams who are actually trying to win with superstar talent like Joel Embiid, Giannis, KD etc, or go goach a potentially rebuilding team featuring Scottie...and uh..FVV? Yeah....Masai needs to be humbled if he thinks people are lining up to coach here lmao.


Give your head a shake.

There are only 30 NBA head coaching gigs. To be clear.... 30 people, in the entire world, (at any given time) get to be an NBA head coach. Even the least desirable NBA head coaching position is among the 30 most desirable in the whole world.

Everyone who has agreed to interview for the position is lining up for it. Thousands more would if they could. How humbling!


Lol what? Are you actually that clueless? Of course higher profile coaches have preferences on where they want to coach. Thats the reality of the sport. And im sure there are thousands of nobodies lining up to coach the Raptors, but what exactly does that say about this organization when even a potential fringe candidate like Hammond has no interest in coming here?
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Post#1993 » by pharring » Tue May 30, 2023 12:36 am

My understanding was that Hammon had no interest in the NBA at this time, given her current run with the Aces. I was also left with the impression by Koreen that her recent disciplinary action may have bumped her to the bottom of the list for now.

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