ESPN: Teams inquiring about Bargnani, Calderon

JunkYardSubs · Post #21 » by **JunkYardSubs** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:14 am

Why would we need a PG in return?

Let us play our **** point guards until the offseason

knickerbocker2k2 · Post #22 » by **knickerbocker2k2** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:17 am

I'm against trading Jose. You will never get equal value. The biggest problem with Jose is his salary. But after this season he will only have one season left, hardly dead salary. Plus, if we get rid of him for expiring, what do you think we will do with his $10M? This team is not FA player. Capspace is useless. Jose is solid starting PG + great player off the bench. I think we would be able to resign him for MLE type of salary at end of his contract.

Bargs on the hand I would be willing to entertain trade ideas because I think his value is at all time high. Not convinced he would be able to replicate his current form for the whole season. If you are going to pull the trigger this would be the best time to do it.

rapsrealm · Post #23 » by **rapsrealm** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:18 am

JunkYardSubs wrote:Why would we need a PG in return?

Let us play our **** point guards until the offseason

And then what? Sign Raymond Felton?

U_Mad · Post #24 » by **U_Mad** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:20 am

Not surprised Brags is wanted...he really turned heads this season with his much improved D and great O...how good of a deal would do you think it take to part ways with him?

JunkYardSubs · Post #25 » by **JunkYardSubs** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:21 am

rapsrealm wrote:
JunkYardSubs wrote:Why would we need a PG in return?

Let us play our **** point guards until the offseason

And then what? Sign Raymond Felton?

Wouldnt any point guard we'd get in return be of lower quality anyways?

Post #26 » by **FluLikeSymptoms** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:25 am

dagger wrote:
pass first wrote:
raptor21_85 wrote:what teams do you think are interested in Bargs??? contenders???

Orlando - Stan Van Gundy LOVES Bargs, Otis is desperate, Dwight + Bargs = best front court in the league

Houston - McHale is desperate for size

could be more, but those two I'm quite certain are interested

We sometimes underestimate our, it's pretty de rigueur for this board. I'd guess lots of teams would like to have Bargnani (and his friendly contract). Even teams with good but older power forwards like the Lakers or Spurs would do well to switch now to a younger guy who offers similar production to their current guy, again at much less financial cost. Who does Denver have at the 4? Wouldn't you rather have Bargnani than David Lee at Golden State? Similar money, but I'd take Bargnani any day if I was the Warrior GM. I can keep on going, there could be a dozen teams, maybe more, who would be better off with Bargnani. That doesn't mean a dozen teams are phoning up with trade offers. Some don't have assets we'd want.

Say it, dagger! The Lakers would give up Pau for Bargnani!

pass first · Post #27 » by **pass first** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:28 am

U_Mad wrote:Not surprised Brags is wanted...he really turned heads this season with his much improved D and great O...how good of a deal would do you think it take to part ways with him?

Multiple picks or same caliber player as Bargs but younger. Anything less is pointless.

Bargs plus for upgrade, I can't see that happening. Raptors aren't really in the position for it imo.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #28 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:29 am

3 or 4-team deal needed for Calderon imo. I think he becomes a Laker when it's all said and done, and I'm guessing the hold up is on our end, because I'm not so sure if we're ready accept the 2 1st rd'rs yet, maybe at the deadline when attempts at getting more via a 3rd or 4th team fails.

Ahmed1212 · Post #29 » by **Ahmed1212** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:30 am

No to trading Bargs.
But hear is how I'd deal with Calderon and the PG situation:

Trade Calderon For a Mid round pick.
Then Sign Arenas. (Total gamble, apparently he's back to the 06 Arenas and has had a change of heart)
Then Package Bayless and that pick for a Lottery pick.

Draft Kabongo and Barnes.

2012-2013 Line up

Areans- Kabongo
Derozan- Barbosa (Resign)
Harrison Barnes- James Johnson
Andrea- Ed Davis- Gray
Val- Amir Johnson- Gray

That's a LOT of potential.

DreamTeam09 · Post #30 » by **DreamTeam09** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:38 am

i'd trade jose for felton & a pick asap. Target Marshall with that 2nd pick and then bring back jose at 4-5mill per...

Pseudonym · Post #31 » by **Pseudonym** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:39 am

Bargnani's value has to be at an all-time high. Consequently, it'll be extremely unlike that BC moves him. Calderon on the other is different. Since we're soooooo convinced that Bayless is not a PG, AND that he can't develop his PG skills, stupidly requiring another PG back in moving him, he'll be very hard to move. The teams interested in him have nothing that we should be interested.

I'd love to get Eric Biedsoe though, somehow as far as young PGs go.

Al_Oliver · Post #32 » by **Al_Oliver** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 2:49 am

Ahmed1212 wrote:No to trading Bargs.
But hear is how I'd deal with Calderon and the PG situation:

Trade Calderon For a Mid round pick.
Then Sign Arenas. (Total gamble, apparently he's back to the 06 Arenas and has had a change of heart)
Then Package Bayless and that pick for a Lottery pick.

Draft Kabongo and Barnes.

2012-2013 Line up

Areans- Kabongo
Derozan- Barbosa (Resign)
Harrison Barnes- James Johnson
Andrea- Ed Davis- Gray
Val- Amir Johnson- Gray

That's a LOT of potential.

who's giving up a mid-round pick for Jose? lay off the sauce...

highness · Post #33 » by **highness** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:02 am

When is the trade deadline? Expect a move then.

nowayguy · Post #34 » by **nowayguy** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:16 am

I'd love to see Bargnani and Calderon get traded provided Colangelo can get fair value. Any ideas who the Raps could get their hands on?

bboyskinnylegs · Post #35 » by **bboyskinnylegs** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:23 am

I can't see us getting equal value for Bargs in a deal right now, and given his decent contract I probably wouldn't want to move him.

As for Jose, if we can get expirings and a pick or prospect, or perhaps include Ed, Bayless, and/or our protected 2013 pick along with Jose to get an upgrade at PG, then I'd be ok with that. Otherwise we're probably better off holding onto him for now.

Post #36 » by **5DOM** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:24 am

I'd be in no rush to trade Bargs. Would like to know who we pick with our draft pick first.

vergogna · Post #37 » by **vergogna** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:25 am

NBA Wiretap Headlines
Source: Rose Endorses Bulls Trading For Gasol
Kobe Seeks Resolution To Gasol Situation
Kupchak Responds To Comments From Kobe, Gasol

somehow I guess there's something involving Gasol

Spicy P · Post #38 » by **Spicy P** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:37 am

why22 wrote:Dunno but would Houston do a deal around Flynn for Jose? He can be awesome as a 6th man for them

Houston has Lowry and Dragic. They don't need a $10 million 3rd string point guard

Post #39 » by **Schad** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:41 am

Pseudonym wrote:Bargnani's value has to be at an all-time high. Consequently, it'll be extremely unlike that BC moves him.

He used to specialize in ballsy, franchise-defining moves, though his hand was forced to some extent with Kidd. With Toronto, not so much.

Houston has Lowry and Dragic. They don't need a $10 million 3rd string point guard

Plus, Flynn is utterly appalling.

Leolovinliberal · Post #40 » by **Leolovinliberal** » Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:44 am

why22 wrote:Dunno but would Houston do a deal around Flynn for Jose? He can be awesome as a 6th man for them

I swear our fan base has an obsession with other teams 12th men; it's absurd. Flynn sucks.