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Re: The answer to all our problems... JEREMY LIN 

Post#21 » by maddskizzle » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:35 pm

I think the Linsanity hype has actually made him underrated. I watched every Rockets game so far and Lin is a very impressive point guard. He can run a team very well and his shot is looking very fluid overall this year.
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Post#22 » by BAMartian » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:36 pm

maddskizzle wrote:I think the Linsanity hype has actually made him underrated. I watched every Rockets game so far and Lin is a very impressive point guard. He can run a team very well and his shot is looking very fluid overall this year.


That's the other thing. We need a PG that can actually run a team .. Lin would be good for guys like JV who thrive off PNR's.
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Post#23 » by RaptorNews » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:37 pm

Lin is a very good player but we dont need just one very good player. This team needs to be blown up.
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Post#24 » by T-d0t » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:37 pm

If you could get assets from the trade, then yes. D-Mo + J-Val make it happen!
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Post#25 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:37 pm

Amir would be a great fit on HOU, with their need for a PF and how advanced stats GM catnip a player he is. I think if we make a Lin deal Amir may as well be involved. Look learn from the Lowry situation. Now that Lowry has 1 yr left on his deal it's hard to deal him. Likewise once Amir is an expiring in 14-15 if he doesn't extend, is value is going to go down.

Furthermore I'm not sure Lowry in HOU is going to work, with him and McHale leaving on bad terms. Maybe they'd make up, I dunno.

If we could trade Lowry and Amir for Lin and HOU additive like Jones or a 1st, I think I would go for it.
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Post#26 » by Basketball_Jones » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:38 pm

Lin would kind of be like Calderon but with poor shooting, and a crap load of turnovers. He is a little more dynamic I'll give him that. But man, that contract sucks. If we can unload Gay first it wouldn't be a bad move though.
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Post#27 » by BAMartian » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:40 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Lin would kind of be like Calderon but with poor shooting, and a crap load of turnovers. He is a little more dynamic I'll give him that. But man, that contract sucks. If we can unload Gay first it wouldn't be a bad move though.


You gotta realize the idea isn't to win a championship. The point is to tank but with a team that will garner interest from fans (Lin will help fill seats regardless of what you think of the guy). Plus if we want to develop our young guys then Lowry is the wrong PG for this team because he sucks on the PNR and he's just not a good playmaker.
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Post#28 » by TheCustodian » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:40 pm

BAMartian wrote:I should point out that I'm not a fan of Lin nor do I think he's anything special in terms of talent.

Yeah, that much is obvious, and even then it's a bit of an understatement.
I'm not exactly a fan of Lin either, but he and Lowry are on the same tier. Lin's been playing better, actually.
So that wouldn't make the Raptors worse. And Houston would probably laugh at a straight up trade.
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Post#29 » by Dr Positivity » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:41 pm

Basketball_Jones wrote:Lin would kind of be like Calderon but with poor shooting, and a crap load of turnovers. He is a little more dynamic I'll give him that. But man, that contract sucks. If we can unload Gay first it wouldn't be a bad move though.


I disagree. First it's just 2 years, secondly 8.4 mil is not that bad. Same money as Jennings, Mayo, Teague got this summer. Lowry likely takes 8 mil to resign. Is Lin really worse than Lowry, Jennings and Teague?

As a player he may have been worth 5-6 last year. But add in youth and potential to improve and paying 8 for Lin is not a killer, especially if we expect to tank
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Post#30 » by Basketball_Jones » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:42 pm

BAMartian wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:Lin would kind of be like Calderon but with poor shooting, and a crap load of turnovers. He is a little more dynamic I'll give him that. But man, that contract sucks. If we can unload Gay first it wouldn't be a bad move though.


You gotta realize the idea isn't to win a championship. The point is to tank but with a team that will garner interest from fans (Lin will help fill seats regardless of what you think of the guy). Plus if we want to develop our young guys then Lowry is the wrong PG for this team because he sucks on the PNR and he's just not a good playmaker.


I know from a tank perspective it's great. But now you have a ton of money tied up in guys like Fields/Gay/Demar/Lin. It's just not something I see Masai doing. I think he wants to shed salary, AND tank. I don't think he makes moves that only benefits one side of it.
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Post#31 » by BAMartian » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:42 pm

Ooops double post.


Lin helps us business wise in the short tearm and he helps develop JV for the long term. He's not going to be a guy that gets us into the playoffs by himself nor is that the point.

I'm concerned because in order to tank ownership needs to be on board. In order for ownership to be on board you need to either convince them that it's okay to forfeit a years worth of sales and ratings OR you gotta find some other way to get people interested in a losing team. Lin is that guy. That's not to say that he sucks so bad that he can't help us... this only works if we properly blow it up and get rid of at least Lowry and Gay (preferably also DD)
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Post#32 » by Kabookalu » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:44 pm

TheCustodian wrote:And Houston would probably laugh at a straight up trade.


Doubt it, Houston loved Lowry and were set on bringing him back. It was Lowry that wanted out.
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Post#33 » by Spragga » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:44 pm

Do people actually believe that Casey is going to all of a sudden change the offense just because Lin gets traded here and he's better at pnr than Lowry? Cmon we are going to be running the same plays if Gay and DD are still here. All you ppl hoping some pg is gonna come in here and throw lobs to Amir and Val are wrong. This would strictly be a money grabbing move and a way to create a storyline about a Lin and Fields Reunion
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Post#34 » by Basketball_Jones » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:46 pm

Spragga wrote:Do people actually believe that Casey is going to all of a sudden change the offense just because Lin gets traded here and he's better at pnr than Lowry? Cmon we are going to be running the same plays if Gay and DD are still here. All you ppl hoping some pg is gonna come in here and throw lobs to Amir and Val are wrong. This would strictly be a money grabbing move and a way to create a storyline about a Lin and Fields Reunion


This is true too. Casey has to go, one of Rudy or Demar (preferably Rudy) has to go. We can't acquire Lin and have him stand up top at the three point line 90 percent of the time, and chuck threes and drive into the paint when the clock comes down the other 10 percent of the time like Kyle is being used.
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Post#35 » by Scraptor » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:47 pm

RaptorNews wrote:Lin is a very good player but we dont need just one very good player. This team needs to be blown up.


Agreed. If we were going for the playoffs full-bore I'd love to bring in Lin, because he's just the tonic we need to get our bigs involved, but the foundation of the team is really so shaky that it's hard to make a case for it.

He is a terrific PnR player and is actually 2nd in the league in PPP as the PnR ball handler right now. Although it's a very small sample size, he made Tyson Chandler look great back in New York and I think he'd do the same for Amir and Val. I could see him running pick and rolls all day long with Amir just like the old Jose days, only Lin plays solid D (64th in the league PPP).

That said, I'd love to see him on the Spurs learning from Pop and Parker. I think he'd be perfect for them.
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Post#36 » by Patman » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:49 pm

From an on-court perspective, Line actually has value, you just have to use him right. As per Player Tracking:

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Post#37 » by Kabookalu » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:55 pm

Spragga wrote:Do people actually believe that Casey is going to all of a sudden change the offense just because Lin gets traded here and he's better at pnr than Lowry? Cmon we are going to be running the same plays if Gay and DD are still here. All you ppl hoping some pg is gonna come in here and throw lobs to Amir and Val are wrong. This would strictly be a money grabbing move and a way to create a storyline about a Lin and Fields Reunion


He did change it for Calderon. After Lowry went down last year you can't say we weren't funneling the offense through DeRozan when it was being ran through Davis and Amir.

Gay would certainly force the offense around him no matter the results we get in the pick and roll, although that's an inevitable problem as long as we have him.




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Post#38 » by SkywalkerAC » Fri Nov 8, 2013 9:55 pm

Exactly the kind of trade the MU needs to be and likely is looking for. Take on manageable salary to collect assets. Lin is obtainable and useful, while not hurting the tank and providing the opportunity to land a first rounder or rookie contract player.

This is not unlike the Lowry+Fields for Granger+pick I suggested, though that one actually results in us starting Augustine, which is more than a little tantalizing.
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Post#39 » by TheGoodDoctor » Fri Nov 8, 2013 11:28 pm

LMAO you can't be serious....so let's again fight for 9th?!

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Post#40 » by Son Goku 25 » Fri Nov 8, 2013 11:37 pm

Let's tank with Nash lol never thought I'd ever use Nash and tank in a sentence
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