Raptors Off-Season - How much cap space do we really have?

[Patman]

I expect Masai to be super-aggressive in regards to our FA situations. I trust Masai, but this is just my opinion of what I'd like to see:

Hansbrough - keep
Salmons - trade or waive by deadline
Vasquez - offer QO, don't match if offer sheet signed
Patterson - offer 3 yrs starting at $5M with raises
Lowry - offer 3 years starting at $8.5M with raises

The starting salaries for both PP and Kyle are lower than their cap holds, so we would actually gain some cap space by them re-signing.

[silverhill27]

I expect Masai to be super-aggressive in regards to our FA situations. I trust Masai, but this is just my opinion of what I'd like to see:

Hansbrough - keep
Salmons - trade or waive by deadline
Vasquez - offer QO, don't match if offer sheet signed
Patterson - offer 3 yrs starting at $5M with raises
Lowry - offer 3 years starting at $8.5M with raises

The starting salaries for both PP and Kyle are lower than their cap holds, so we would actually gain some cap space by them re-signing.

Draft night will be very telling. Draft a PG, Vasquez is likely gone if Lowry is re-signed. Draft a PF and likely one of Hansbrough and Patterson are gone. Trade Salmons for a guaranteed contract and the cap space is gone.

[Patman]

I expect Masai to be super-aggressive in regards to our FA situations. I trust Masai, but this is just my opinion of what I'd like to see:

Hansbrough - keep
Salmons - trade or waive by deadline
Vasquez - offer QO, don't match if offer sheet signed
Patterson - offer 3 yrs starting at $5M with raises
Lowry - offer 3 years starting at $8.5M with raises

The starting salaries for both PP and Kyle are lower than their cap holds, so we would actually gain some cap space by them re-signing.

Draft night will be very telling. Draft a PG, Vasquez is likely gone if Lowry is re-signed. Draft a PF and likely one of Hansbrough and Patterson are gone. Trade Salmons for a guaranteed contract and the cap space is gone.

I think we'll probably grab our 3rd wing in the draft. Salmons will be gone either way, so we'll need a replacement.

[Raptorfan2012]

I expect Masai to be super-aggressive in regards to our FA situations. I trust Masai, but this is just my opinion of what I'd like to see:

Hansbrough - keep
Salmons - trade or waive by deadline
Vasquez - offer QO, don't match if offer sheet signed
Patterson - offer 3 yrs starting at $5M with raises
Lowry - offer 3 years starting at $8.5M with raises

The starting salaries for both PP and Kyle are lower than their cap holds, so we would actually gain some cap space by them re-signing.

My thoughts exactly. This team is better with Hansborough playing. Salmons is expendable (bench wing guys are easy to find). Keep Lowry and Patterson. 2 more players are probably through the draft.

[dagger]

Yes, we will have cap room, unless we use it to move Salmons or Hansbrough prior to June 29-30. You don't begin by putting cap holds and qualifying offers for reserves as priorities in the use of cap space. If we had a chance to sign a better starter, using cap space, we would throw all of those cap holds and QOs out the door faster than you can say Jerryd Bayless. Ive always assumed, given our current draft position, a full guarantee for Amir, a $62m cap and a $9m salary for Lowry that we would have in the area of $10m in net cap space. Our starting point is $43 million, including Amir's entire salary, our picks, the Camby buyout and the Hansbrough/Salmons guarantees. I expect a $62m cap. So that's $19m in potential cap space, with about $9m taken up by Lowry.

Also, given our potential situation for the summer of 2015, I'd rather not diminish potential cap space by signing anyone but Patterson should there be no starter upgrade available in the summer of 2014. How hard could it be to replace Vasquez for one year if he would rather not take our QO? Luke Ridnour for one season would be fine with me to preserve space for 2015.

I know Vasquez has gotten a lot of slack around here but hes played pretty well IMO. If you take a look at whats available at the backup PG spot there isnt a lot. Ridnour is done IMO and Vasquez has started to really play well. I think 62 is a fairly aggressive estimation, even last year when the league did really well the cap only jumped 600k. Regardless though, if you let Vasquez & Patterson walk, signed Lowry for 9 million your at 50 million already. By doing this though youve created a bunch of needs. You now need a PF (either to start over Amir or back him up), you in all likelihood need some size behind JV and a backup PG for Lowry. I just dont think the above is a realistic scenario.

I mean what FA are you going to target? Deng? Gasol? Randolph (if he opts out)? i just dont see many options worth losing both Vasquez & Patterson for.

You can satisfy one of those bench needs with the room exception. You haven't been watching Masai for the past four years if you think he isn't going to prioritize a high end starter over a couple of good bench players. And like I said, a guy like Ridnour is perfectly fine for backup duties on a room exception type deal.

Finally, our pick can be a backup caliber player in his rookie season. It would surprise me if Masai packages our pick and either the SAC second, or a future first, or both, to move up in the draft.

The point is, Masai is not going to stand pat for a second season of evaluating our current assets if there are trades or other moves possible to upgrade the starting five.

[HSOB SIRHC]

There is one other way of doing it. Didn't MLSE say they're willing to pay the luxury tax when the time is right and for the right player?

[rapsrealm]

I think Salmons contract will be in play during draft night. There are many things that we can do including trading our draft pick with Salmons for an impact-type player or even trading Salmons to acquire another player and a draft pick.

[J-Roc]

Interesting this thread was from Feb and we were talking like Tyler would be back. I'd love to have him, but seems he's a guy to go based on these playoffs.

How does the timing work with figuring out Lowry, and Patterson/Vasquez with qualifying offers and offers from other teams?

[arbsn]

I see us resigning Vasquez/Pat Pat, waiving Salmons and signing Vince Carter to replace Salmons.

Full team becomes

Lowry/Vasquez
DD/VC
TRoss/Landry/Novak
Amir/Pat
JV/Psycho/Hayes

+ 1st Rd Draft Pick + 2 2nd Rd Draft Picks

[arbsn]

I'd say right now 60% chance Vince comes to Toronto next year for mini-midlevel

It's obvious, he wants to save his legacy here, have his jersey retired, and seek forgiveness from the fans while also being given an opportunity to be on a playoff team in a weak conference

30% chance Mark Cuban forces him to stay

10% chance we don't want him and he retires